juicing in the military.....

[xido]

quick question....can't we say steroids ARE rec drugs, if not on hrt ? I think steroids fall into that category

 

[Butterbob]

Alright.... I don't want to have anyone think poorly of me for saying this but once upon a time I was an OSI agent for the Air Force. I can tell you just about anything you want to know about what they do and do not do. Bottom line is this:

1. They only test for rec drugs as stated before. In order to test you for anything else you must be suspected and you have to be requested by your commander. It costs uncle sugar a lot of money to test you and it is rare.

2. Most of the time "the bad man" is not going to try to set you up to buy something like gear. I worked specifically with drugs for four years as an agent and I NEVER nor did I EVER see an agent try to bag someone for gear. I have seen individuals get busted because they got huge too fast. If you use common sense and you don't bulk up too fast you will be fine.

3. If someone supects you and tells anyone up in your chain of command and it makes it to the commander you are fucked plain and simple. You will get a dishonorable and you will probably do some time with Bubba, Tiny, and Snowflake. If you are lucky you will just get the dishonorable but that is as good as it could get.

I wanted to reiterate that I am not doing that job anymore, I'm no longer in the military, and I'm just giving you my 2 cents to help you out. If you have any more questions send me a message. If I don't know, I can point you in the right direction.

Don't forget, if you live on base or work on base you can be searched at any time (because you are on their property). They are not civilian police and they do not have to follow the same rules concerning resonable doubt (to a degree). However, if they want to search your car tell them NO (even though the sign on the gate says they can at any time, that's not 100% accurate and resonable doubt applies). Most likely you will just get escorted off base. I could go into this more but it would take more time than it is worth.

 

[Butterbob]

quick question....can't we say steroids ARE rec drugs, if not on hrt ? I think steroids fall into that category

We can but we don't decide. The list of drugs that are tested on a "random" and I would like to once again draw your attention to the fact I added the " " to that, are determined by your commander. Usually an eight panel test. It costs too much money for them to test for gear and frankly it is one of the least abused drugs. They are after the shit that causes the "social and moral" problems like coke, meth, etc.... The bottom line is this, it comes down to money. A commander can do a random drug test at anytime. In order to get by with this all tests are done in mass. That is to say they don't just call in one person at a time. This keeps it legal and it is easier for the Judge Advocate to do their job. If they start doing one person at a time they have to have resonable doubt to suspect that they are under the influence (it's in their system) of that drug at that very moment in time. This is actually harder to prove than you might think. It would be far too expensive to do a mass drug test for gear, plus you would have too test a lot of individuals that you know are not on gear. The old fat Major, the skinny 18 year old girl, etc... That is not considered economical and they just don't do it. Almost 90 percent of the individuals I have seen busted were ratted out by their girlfriends/wives or they were rolled on by another user. Only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead. I would never ever have a buddy I did gear with in the military. Not only do you have to worry about you but now you have to worry about him as well. The military is well known for cutting deals for rats.

 

[jo jo]

my crew was tested enmass for gear by a new battalion CO. small specialty group with high unit visibility though. though rare the test arent as expensive as most would lead you to believe and your CO can pretty much do what the fuck he wants anyday of the week. if you're gonna i'd suggest you not try to put on 15+ lbs, and dont risk it if your job puts you in any sort of spotlight or special scrutiny. dishonorable discharge is a scarlet letter you dont want to be fuckin with brothers

 

[Megalomaniac]

shit how much do EMs get paid these days? i was in from '96-'99 and we hardly had money

some of us make six figures

 

[Megalomaniac]

So I got beat up pretty badly on my last tour. I have a medical evalutation through veterans affairs to get my problems documented. That way when I am sixty i can get disability to pay for these problems aquired thanks to the enemy. My question is when they do blood work which they will, anybody know if they will say anything about my AAS use? I will be on when I have to get the checkup. I know they wont tell the military but i am worried about getting disqualified for disability for hearing aides and other stuff later down the road just because I juiced. I am worried they will try to say IED's didnt cause my problems and that the AAS did. They know that will save them money.

don't worry about the blood work, you should be good.

 

[hrlydvdson1]

matter of time, they are a GOVERNMENT entity!

 

[sofakingdel]

my concern wasnt the piss tests...concern was if they draw blood for whatever reason and something comes back not looking right....i'm not sure i would answer to that. i appreciate all the good info though guys.

diced

Don't draw suspicion to yourself, don't talk about it, don't drive with anything in your car ever, don't use Tren before a PFT, you'll be fine.

 

[solidspine]

When I was in the military they never tested for anything


1968-1970

 

[dtsnow2000]

how many of you bros hit the gear while you were in or do it now....any worries or no? my only concern is if they pull some some blood for whatever reason....something looking not right with the results... u guys that've done it give me some feed back... thanks bros

diced

bro, your good to go. i was in the military for a good while, never got tested never heard of anyone i knew getting tested. i was stationed at Ft. Bliss in el paso. used to go to juarez all the time. however thats a different story now.