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DBBT said:
How about this one too...
How many of you were scared off your ass most of your life when steroids were brought up to you, or if they were offered. THEN, one day you get the balls to do it. And then DOING it is "the best thing ever." Then you hit a point where you're asking yourself, why the hell did I ever start this? Wish I hadn't, pointless? Anyone? Maybe 1% of the posters here compete so that's their reason for saucing. But explain to me how those of you who don't compete and use can KNOW for SURE that you are doing EVERYTHING you can do to prevent permanent side effects from use?


For a guy trying to bash, whether indirect or direct, the members, you do spend a great deal of time in the AAS forum. The only reason anyone is scared of steroids is because of the hype the government, the schools, your parents, and the media put forth. The spew lies and more lies, and instead of educating people on how to take it properly, they tell you its bad and thats that. Theres to much money to be made by the government by keeping steroids illegal with drug busts and stings and such, but many countries allow for their use. How does anyone know, especially professional bodybuilders, that they are doing everything to prevent possible side effects. Am I killing my liver more than the average 21 year old college student binge drinking 3-4 nights a week? Am I destroying my cardiovascular health more than the guy next to me smoking 1 pack a day of cigarettes? Am I hurting myself more than the fat slob eating McDonalds 2-3 times a week?

Show me a study about the long term side effects that you have based your arguments on, and I will humbly back down. Until then, I'm going to keep on using it the way I feel is safe.
 
DBBT said:
Im absolutely NOT saying that there is NO place for AAS in everyone's life. Yes, people with aids and people with SERIOUS life problems are given steroids...no one here takes steroids from a burn they got last week tho, lol.
Anyway, when ON you do feel like youre the shit, nothing can stop you. You want to keep on pushing yourself...no matter what. I'll bet at the peak of a cycle EVEN if you knew your cholest was high or your bp was high but you were getting the best gains and most size ever many people would continue because "nothing bad has ever happened to people as a result of AAS because I can't find any literature on it." Cmon, I believed that once, that if i can't find anything in writing, I'm not going to quit using.


For one, yes you do feel great and you feel like your the shit and yes, you can push yourself to limits that you could not achieve naturally. I bet you the guys that drink at a bar everyday know that they are killing their kidneys and liver, yet you will find them there everyday still drinking? How do I know, because I've worked at a bar for two years. With all the bad hype the media spins about smoking, shouldn't everyone be against it. What use does it serve? What about fast food? You ever eat Burger King, McDonalds, or Wendy's? You ever consider the effect it will have on your cholesterol or your heart before you bite into that big mac?

Why are you trying to stir crap up? If you don't want to use them then thats great. No one cares. No one will make fun of you or ban you from the site. But don't try to intimidate or make someone feel insecure because they want to use steroids for whatever personal reason they choose to do so. Your arguments are weak with no evidence to back them up.
 
DBBT said:
How about this one too...
How many of you were scared off your ass most of your life when steroids were brought up to you, or if they were offered. THEN, one day you get the balls to do it. And then DOING it is "the best thing ever." Then you hit a point where you're asking yourself, why the hell did I ever start this? Wish I hadn't, pointless? Anyone? Maybe 1% of the posters here compete so that's their reason for saucing. But explain to me how those of you who don't compete and use can KNOW for SURE that you are doing EVERYTHING you can do to prevent permanent side effects from use?

do you like fast-food?
 
yo there is no reason to be a dick i am, dbbt is simply warning people that if they are gonna use aas to do it responsibly and make sure they go to the doctor to make sure they do recover and don't have permanent damage. i for one had a wake up call after my last cycle and ive been having some trouble recovering. truth be told 90 percent of the people on here juice 3 times a year and never even get blood work done. there are people that run a few cycles and then are forced to go on hrt, i think dbbt is trying to save you from this. juice is great for many things and lots of fun no doubt i got sucked in hardcore but you have to know that you could be harming your body and if your not then cool more power to you, but if your not gonna get bloodwork done and take huge stacks your a dumbass imo.
 
Didn't you have your pic up on here before DBBT?

No offense, but if you did use then I totally understand what you are saying as it looked like you didn't get much out of it.

Just my $0.02
 
i am what i am said:
For a guy trying to bash, whether indirect or direct, the members, you do spend a great deal of time in the AAS forum. The only reason anyone is scared of steroids is because of the hype the government, the schools, your parents, and the media put forth. The spew lies and more lies, and instead of educating people on how to take it properly, they tell you its bad and thats that. Theres to much money to be made by the government by keeping steroids illegal with drug busts and stings and such, but many countries allow for their use. How does anyone know, especially professional bodybuilders, that they are doing everything to prevent possible side effects. Am I killing my liver more than the average 21 year old college student binge drinking 3-4 nights a week? Am I destroying my cardiovascular health more than the guy next to me smoking 1 pack a day of cigarettes? Am I hurting myself more than the fat slob eating McDonalds 2-3 times a week?

Show me a study about the long term side effects that you have based your arguments on, and I will humbly back down. Until then, I'm going to keep on using it the way I feel is safe.

Well said
 
wtf is with all the flaming. its real easy to have your point of view, but when you have no energy, sex drive, and can't fuck cause you did a few cycles carelessly maybe you'll wish you had listened. As i said i have no problem with gear and may do some light cycles again later on when my body is back to NORMAL. oh yea and post your pics bro, dbbt was a solid 250 throwin up a lot of weight in no way was he half assing
 
his argument is skewed for many reasons but basically AAS is like any drug or chemical that can and will be abused.
 
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