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Juice and shrooms?

probably.... I can't see the use oof hallucinagens alone as being a good thing.... Why not lay off the those crackhead drugs and try to clean up?

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Bill W said:
Portabello, cremini or shitake?

He's talking about the kind that grow on the deuce (shit) of farm animals, commonly used as a hallucinagenic drug... Similar to the high one might feel on ACID from what some of my crackhead friends have told me...

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These guys are giving u advice with no first hand experience. ive shroomed on juice. its accully no diffrence. just u might feel like u wana kill people, besides that its really fuN! enjoy!
 
its been documented that some people have had irreversable mental side effects from these kinds of drugs, and it was suggested that their mental state at the time can have alot to do with what type of "trip" you have. ex. depressed, happy, worried. i know i'm in a pissy mood sometime when i'm on juice so why risk it?
 
Bill W said:
Obviously, I was just kidding.

lol, i know... I just wanted to spout out the cow shit information cause that alone , aside from my never wanting to touch drugs of that nature, would make me sick... lol

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edII said:
its been documented that some people have had irreversable mental side effects from these kinds of drugs, and it was suggested that their mental state at the time can have alot to do with what type of "trip" you have. ex. depressed, happy, worried. i know i'm in a pissy mood sometime when i'm on juice so why risk it?

I love the selective drug morality of many people on this site. Just say no kids (but say yes to hormones!?)

Mushrooms active ingredients are psilocybin and psilocin. These chemicals are similar in action to LSD (but much milder). Mushrooms are legal in much of Europe and even sold in gift shops in Amsterdam.

Mushy's have no interaction with steroids. Take a trip... enjoy yourself.
 
GaryWary said:


I love the selective drug morality of many people on this site. Just say no kids (but say yes to hormones!?)

Mushrooms active ingredients are psilocybin and psilocin. These chemicals are similar in action to LSD (but much milder). Mushrooms are legal in much of Europe and even sold in gift shops in Amsterdam.

Mushy's have no interaction with steroids. Take a trip... enjoy yourself.


so this class i'm taking with all their research is just bullshit because you said so? in europe they let people shoot heroine on the fucking streets, is that good? why not just shoot some smack?
 
I love when people knock something they have never tried nor have any experience with. As with any Hallucinogen you should be mentally stable. Not depressed or sad as these moods may influence to effects of the drug but you will not experience any negative side effect because of As use. Also you will only want to kill someone unless if you are a naturally violent person and even then that is highly doubtful. If you are a violent person than you should not be doing steroids or any illicit substance for that matter.
 
edII said:
so this class i'm taking with all their research is just bullshit because you said so? in europe they let people shoot heroine on the fucking streets, is that good? why not just shoot some smack?

If the course is re-inforcing the evangelical 'just say no kids' drug message but not looking at the facts - then it is bullshit. The key word here is OBJECTIVITY. Mushrooms are pretty safe as it goes. Cannabis is pretty safe as it goes. Don't try and confuse the argument by introducing heroin. Alcohol is not really safe - but most people tolerate it and respect it (it is society's acceptable and legal drug). Mushrooms are not addictive and cause few problems. A few unlucky people have problems caused by mushrooms apparently... that happens with all drugs.

Dr GJL
 
LONE_AZ said:
I love when people knock something they have never tried nor have any experience with. As with any Hallucinogen you should be mentally stable. Not depressed or sad as these moods may influence to effects of the drug but you will not experience any negative side effect because of As use. Also you will only want to kill someone unless if you are a naturally violent person and even then that is highly doubtful. If you are a violent person than you should not be doing steroids or any illicit substance for that matter.


i don't know wether that was directed at me, but because this is a discussion board, we can discuss. i took mushrooms twice in a three year period and the second time, i had a couple "flashbacks" two times in a three week period after i took them. i have exp. with lots of drugs in my past, which i'm not proud of. i did not pass along any bogus info, just the facts. he's going to do what he wants anyway. he asked for opinions and i gave one to him. i just suggested that when he's on as, something might have made him edgy more than normal so i sugggested that he wait if he's going to do them. just my opinion.
 
GaryWary said:


If the course is re-inforcing the evangelical 'just say no kids' drug message but not looking at the facts - then it is bullshit. The key word here is OBJECTIVITY. Mushrooms are pretty safe as it goes. Cannabis is pretty safe as it goes. Don't try and confuse the argument by introducing heroin. Alcohol is not really safe - but most people tolerate it and respect it (it is society's acceptable and legal drug). Mushrooms are not addictive and cause few problems. A few unlucky people have problems caused by mushrooms apparently... that happens with all drugs.

Dr GJL

i agree. in my opinion though, i would rather see pot legalized before alcohol. alcohol is one of the worst drugs out there. like i said above, i did not say anything that was not true. i gave my opinion and a couple of facts to maybe back it up. thats all.
 
Do the shrooms if you want, do not do the shrooms if you are worried about it. I do not think that the juice that you are on will affect you one way or another. And as far as what ed said about mental state, that is true, If you are pissed off and you take shrooms - you will remain pissed off. It may even amplify that emotion. If you are upset or depressed when you take them, it will be the same on the shrooms, possibly more so. And I did want to say that you cannot shoot heroin in the streets in Europe. In Amsterdam shrooms, weed and hash are legal. Also, the penalites there for posesion of an illegal drug are harsher than the sentances that we have here in the states. Amsterdam has one of the lowest arrest rates for Illegal drug use in all of Europe. Listen to the people that are posting with real world experience, any idiot can regurgitate some crap that they read in a book.

C
 
LONE_AZ said:
I love when people knock something they have never tried nor have any experience with. As with any Hallucinogen you should be mentally stable. Not depressed or sad as these moods may influence to effects of the drug but you will not experience any negative side effect because of As use. Also you will only want to kill someone unless if you are a naturally violent person and even then that is highly doubtful. If you are a violent person than you should not be doing steroids or any illicit substance for that matter.

Well said.
 
try this, it's awesome. 12 oz of butter, 4 oz of worcester sauce, juice from one lemon, 1 tablespoon of chopped garlic. saute' butter in a pan and add the remaining ingredients. add your mushrooms. grill some fish and then spoon the mushrooms and sauce over the fish.

that's the best sauce i can think of with mushrooms.
 
ignorant fuckers just repeating cliches. Do the drugs b4 you feel the need to warn someone about something u know absolutely nothing about. The man told you its wrong huh.. well the man says steroids are wrong to u dumb fuckers.
 
i've done shrooms plenty of times on gear dont think it has an affect take the damn shrooms or give them to me ill eat em for you!
 
Gorlim said:
ignorant fuckers just repeating cliches. Do the drugs b4 you feel the need to warn someone about something u know absolutely nothing about. The man told you its wrong huh.. well the man says steroids are wrong to u dumb fuckers.


dumb fuckers huh? do you guys just read what you want before you post. i guess you didn't read the part that i said i did them twice and the other part where i said i was just giving my OPINION? let him do them, i just get my info from other dumb fuckers. disregard my statements. you guys sure blow up when someone says he drank a beer at lunch but you can do all the other shit you want.

btw croele, you are right, you can't do heroine in the streets, but they have parks where people shoot up and don't get arrested.
 
GaryWary said:


I love the selective drug morality of many people on this site. Just say no kids (but say yes to hormones!?)

Mushrooms active ingredients are psilocybin and psilocin. These chemicals are similar in action to LSD (but much milder). Mushrooms are legal in much of Europe and even sold in gift shops in Amsterdam.

Mushy's have no interaction with steroids. Take a trip... enjoy yourself.

Finally a voice of reason. Gary's right - organic is organic; let's all keep open minds here.

peace
 
bro, i've tripped and juiced, never had any complications at all, if you want to party every once in a while go for it, you only live once. Its like the pot calling the kettle black, everyone screams crackhead to a person wanting to party once a month on shrooms, while the same person bitching just popped there fourth anadrol of the day and pissed blood, but they are "normal"
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
try this, it's awesome. 12 oz of butter, 4 oz of worcester sauce, juice from one lemon, 1 tablespoon of chopped garlic. saute' butter in a pan and add the remaining ingredients. add your mushrooms. grill some fish and then spoon the mushrooms and sauce over the fish.
that's the best sauce i can think of with mushrooms.
That sounds very tasty. Will you be contributing to the recipe forum?
 
I'm not sure that, during a time of highly accelerated physiological adaptation, I'd want to introduce highly psychoactive, chemistry altering substance into my brain.
 
JB25 said:
Shrooms aren't going to get you anywhere dumbshit. Start pumpin serious, or get OFF the gear!


Dumbshit?Who are you calling a dumbshit? Kiss my ass mother fucker!I am just trying to find out some info and you call me a dumbshit!Fuck you!Don't think you are a tough guy because you can talk shit through your computer.
To everyone else,thank you for the comments.
 
The last time I checked, this was an anabolic discussion forum, not a bullshit recreational dope head drug forum. I consider myself an athlete, not a freakin drug addict who needs hallucinagens to get through the day or enjoy a night out. Perhaps those whom wish to discuss psychoactive drugs and the like should take the inane gibberish elsewhere.
 
Concerned

Hey bro, why would you do such a thing? I'm going to be very up front with you. I have used them. I COULD CARE LESS IF YOU TAKE THIS ADVICE OR NOT. ITS YOUR LIFE, BUT REALIZE THIS...YOUR HEADED DOWN A LONG HARD ROAD MY FRIEND. Good luck to you.
If your personality is good, you'll have a great trip. It's going to effect you in the same manner whether your on gear or not, it just may enhance certain aspects of your personality. If your a type "a", aggressive, personality than I would highly not recommend it. I doubt you'll die if thats what your asking.
MMMMMMMM.....COW SHIT TASTE SO GOOD... DONT YOU THINK? GOD, AND HALF THESE PEOPLE WHO'LL EAT THIS COW SHIT ACTUALLY WILL LOOK AT SOME OF THE FOODS WE EAT IN DISGUST???? Whats wrong with this picture.

Take care bro...and have fun! MODERATION, MODERATION, DONT BURN UP YOUR RESERVE, YOU'LL NEED IT WHEN YOUR 60.
 
SmackDown said:
i've done shrooms plenty of times on gear dont think it has an affect take the damn shrooms or give them to me ill eat em for you!

Damn straight, if you don't want'em I'll put them to good use.

;)
 
jackfrost said:
The last time I checked, this was an anabolic discussion forum, not a bullshit recreational dope head drug forum. I consider myself an athlete, not a freakin drug addict who needs hallucinagens to get through the day or enjoy a night out. Perhaps those whom wish to discuss psychoactive drugs and the like should take the inane gibberish elsewhere.


Here we have another close-minded son of a bitch.First of all I am not a drug addict.Second,I don't need hallucinagens to get through the day.I have only taken them twice and might be taking them again.Please, if you don't have an answer to my question dont bother responding with a bullshit answer like this!
I asked this question to hear peoples comments about the possible side effects,not too be called a drug addict.So too all you people out there who dont do these drugs please keep your half-
brained comments to your self!!!Once again,to everyone else ,thank you for your opinions.:doublefi:
 
Genlemen, gentlemen, please .... this has turned into a arguement. the is EF, bros....everyone has thier own opinion.... respect them. everyone has different mind sets and different goals. just because one bro, who is totally focused on health and juice and would never touch shrooms or any other drugs for that matter, doesn't need to call some other bro a crackhead because he is willing to experiment. the bro that will experiment, doesn't need to call the bro who wont do it a prick!

anyway, my .02 is that anything in moderation is acceptable... to each his own

peace,
ragin'
 
Elite Fitness right??
what the fuck does shrooms ahve to with fitness??

honestly, ask anyone, its always the drugy bb'ers taht never quite make it, there drug habbits show tendencies to being weak minded, and therefore not cut out for this sport.

i have been weak minded, and am not a hypocryt, i will never make it

painly
 
ragin' said:
Genlemen, gentlemen, please .... this has turned into a arguement. the is EF, bros....everyone has thier own opinion.... respect them. everyone has different mind sets and different goals. just because one bro, who is totally focused on health and juice and would never touch shrooms or any other drugs for that matter, doesn't need to call some other bro a crackhead because he is willing to experiment. the bro that will experiment, doesn't need to call the bro who wont do it a prick!

anyway, my .02 is that anything in moderation is acceptable... to each his own

peace,
ragin'

Finally the voice of reason!!!!I am not in anyway trying to call guys who dont do these drugs a prick.I do shrooms because I choose to.I am sure as hell no damn drug addict that is why I got pissed.I just wanted a little info from some people who have done the same thing.I am just as focused as anyone else on this
board when it comes to keeping in shape.How I spend my free time is nobody's business but my own.I see a lot of people around here get pissed off when they don't like a questoin they see.If I don't know something about a question then I won't
respond to it, it is as simple as that.
 
the forum is for anything related to bodybuilding. the question at hand is , will shooms have a negative effect while cycling. in short, yes..... but people dont do shooms for days.. they do them for one night... unless there is a problem. anyway, yes it may fuck thier workout the next day or something but it's not going to hurt them in the long run. if thier preping for a contest i wouldn't recommend it.... i've done them while cycling before and bro, i am not weak minded. you have no idea how disciplined i am. so relax. dont make me crawl through your monitor.
 
ragin' said:
the forum is for anything related to bodybuilding. the question at hand is , will shooms have a negative effect while cycling. in short, yes..... but people dont do shooms for days.. they do them for one night... unless there is a problem. anyway, yes it may fuck thier workout the next day or something but it's not going to hurt them in the long run. if thier preping for a contest i wouldn't recommend it.... i've done them while cycling before and bro, i am not weak minded. you have no idea how disciplined i am. so relax. dont make me crawl through your monitor.

Very well said, ragin'. I wanted to say something similar in so many words. :)
 
painly said:
Elite Fitness right??
what the fuck does shrooms ahve to with fitness??

honestly, ask anyone, its always the drugy bb'ers taht never quite make it, there drug habbits show tendencies to being weak minded, and therefore not cut out for this sport.

i have been weak minded, and am not a hypocryt, i will never make it

painly

These crazy comments just might keep me up all night.I do believe this is an anabolic discussion in which people talk about
anything related to anabolic steroids.CORRECT?I might be taking
ANABOLIC STEROIDS with another drug.All I wanted was a few
comments from people who have taken the two drugs together.
As for not making it(because I am a drugy),I have never taken
juice before and I am probably a lot bigger,stronger,and in better
shape than a lot of people on this board.I am not trying to sound like a bad ass , but just because you choose to do different drugs
once in a while does not mean you cannot get in great shape.So
please,think before you speak.
 
At least this is better than that one thread way back "Will heroin hurt my gains while on juice?"

That was bad....

Now shrooms....no one robs gas stations on shrooms, but they are definitely not in the same class as AAS either....nothing wrong with using them in an intelligent manner of course...
 
I apologize to Juice 20, perhaps I overreacted to the perceived purpose of this thread. I didn't mean to imply you were a drug addict.
 
jackfrost said:
I apologize to Juice 20, perhaps I overreacted to the perceived purpose of this thread. I didn't mean to imply you were a drug addict.

Yes you did ya bastard....

<fight fight fight>;)
 
You naive people think the pro's are so perfect? I have went out partying with some Pro bodybuilders. I've watched them snort lines of coke and roll their assess off. These guys have it all in check and they still find time to let go every now and then. Everyone wants to scream crackhead, well fact is a lot of Pro's use coke before every workout, I BET YOU DIDN"T KNOW THAT did you, but its true. And another thing, all shrooms are NOT grown on cow shit, they are very easy to cultivate in the privacy of your own home. People need to learn their drugs before they go running their mouths.
 
Well well...if it isn't the age old steroid snobbery resurfacing at good ole elite. Shrooms are for crackheads? Strange. I have found that particular hallucinogen to be fairly mild, and certainly non-addictive. Additionally, it can be a fantastic teacher, or at the very minimum, a fun time. I cannot see the equivalence proposed to heroin, no matter how hard I try. What do I know? I've done all those drugs a great many times. We're not talking about crack here, which has absolutely no redeeming quality to counteract the ferocious and unilateral addicitive trait. And what about the question to begin with...will shrooms negatively affect his cycle? Well, let's see here. If you take shrooms in a standard dose, say, eight grams or so, you will most likely experience some gastrointestinal discomfort throughout the trip and well into the next day. Additionally, there might be some residual psychological effect, especially if you take a negative mental turn during the actual trip. These factors could result in afew missed workouts. Moreover, whenever hallucinogens are taken, there seems to be a redirection of focus onto that particular experience, which could potentially draw away from focus in the gym. HOWEVER, if you happen to be lucky enough to experience a thoroughly deconstructing trip, the resulting mental reconstruction will definetly ADD to your ability to focus, although this effect may take some time. The truth is that one shroom trip will not have a significant impact on your training, but could lead to habits that might. If it were me, I'd eat them. Hey wait...I eat them anyway...
 
Fukkenshredded said:
Well well...if it isn't the age old steroid snobbery resurfacing at good ole elite. Shrooms are for crackheads? Strange. I have found that particular hallucinogen to be fairly mild, and certainly non-addictive. Additionally, it can be a fantastic teacher, or at the very minimum, a fun time. I cannot see the equivalence proposed to heroin, no matter how hard I try. What do I know? I've done all those drugs a great many times. We're not talking about crack here, which has absolutely no redeeming quality to counteract the ferocious and unilateral addicitive trait. And what about the question to begin with...will shrooms negatively affect his cycle? Well, let's see here. If you take shrooms in a standard dose, say, eight grams or so, you will most likely experience some gastrointestinal discomfort throughout the trip and well into the next day. Additionally, there might be some residual psychological effect, especially if you take a negative mental turn during the actual trip. These factors could result in afew missed workouts. Moreover, whenever hallucinogens are taken, there seems to be a redirection of focus onto that particular experience, which could potentially draw away from focus in the gym. HOWEVER, if you happen to be lucky enough to experience a thoroughly deconstructing trip, the resulting mental reconstruction will definetly ADD to your ability to focus, although this effect may take some time. The truth is that one shroom trip will not have a significant impact on your training, but could lead to habits that might. If it were me, I'd eat them. Hey wait...I eat them anyway...


good point. i brought up the heroine point not being serious. hopefully no one thought i would be seriously comparing the mental or physical effects of the two drugs. my whole point is some people expierience side effects(anger, agression, anxiety) while on juice, and these emotions are what cause some people to have negative side effects of the drug. with my expierience i suggested he wait until he stop cycling to take the shrooms, just to be safe. i know its easy for some people to suggest things for people they don't know. if you wouldn't have a problem with your brother doing shrooms while on juice, than go ahead and tell him to go for it. i would want my own brother to be safe so i gave this guy my opinion.
 
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DRRman said:
You naive people think the pro's are so perfect? I have went out partying with some Pro bodybuilders. I've watched them snort lines of coke and roll their assess off. These guys have it all in check and they still find time to let go every now and then. Everyone wants to scream crackhead, well fact is a lot of Pro's use coke before every workout, I BET YOU DIDN"T KNOW THAT did you, but its true. And another thing, all shrooms are NOT grown on cow shit, they are very easy to cultivate in the privacy of your own home. People need to learn their drugs before they go running their mouths.


I never want to know this much information about drugs, not from personal experience at least. I need all the brain cells I can get. Not about to go and waste them just because I don't know how to have a great time w/o drugs. A lot of pro's use coke before every work out? Well, they must have a tunnel going straight from their nose to their brain if they do that much coke. If that's part of the bodybuilding world...then I don't want anything to do with it. I'm sure many will agree.
 
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