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jose canseco claims
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I'm sure steroids are a part of baseball...but 85% give me a fuckin' break. I look at my pittsburgh pirates and if 85% of them are juicing, someone needs to show them the weight room.
Most of them are bone skinny or fat asses.
I would beleve 25-30 percent. Conseco is a nervous-twitchin fruit cake, that batted .170 in the minors this year and can't face he sucks now. He also claims that the owners conspired to keep him out of baseball...Seriously Jose.
As far as guys hitting homers. The pitching is diluted due to expansion, playesr are bigger, roids or not and Josh Gibson hit 80 something in the negro leagues years ago. Someone was bound to do it sooner or later.
I just wish it wasn''t Bonds, his an ass just like conseco.
Most of them are bone skinny or fat asses.
I would beleve 25-30 percent. Conseco is a nervous-twitchin fruit cake, that batted .170 in the minors this year and can't face he sucks now. He also claims that the owners conspired to keep him out of baseball...Seriously Jose.
As far as guys hitting homers. The pitching is diluted due to expansion, playesr are bigger, roids or not and Josh Gibson hit 80 something in the negro leagues years ago. Someone was bound to do it sooner or later.
I just wish it wasn''t Bonds, his an ass just like conseco.
hey K, you got to remember these players arent bodybuilders, they may just use one compound and not stack to the limit like bodybuilders, if they are skinny they may be taking anavar, or winstrol to improve endurance and speed and timing, the only guys who probably juice heavy are some first basemans, they just stand there......but I use to know this guy that played in the minor leagues with pudge rodriquez, and he said that guy was forever on winstrol and primobolan and wouldnt come off......you have to remember just cause they are skinny doesnt mean they dont use roids, different roids do different things!
hey okie if rules and codes werent made to be broken then society would be nothing but a fuckin tyrant ran society........why do we have laws?????? Does society live their lives by the laws, no citizens break rules and codes everyday........tell the sorry ass politicians that are doing so-called criminal acts everyday in the government that there are laws, and they are breaking them, do you think they are going to care...........sounds like you have been stuck in that white-man big brother frame of mind ever since you started getting brainwashed at a young age, by all that democratic government bullshit........if laws and codes werent made to be broke, why do we have them?????
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Him1 said:
Actually, I never said anything about the "Pro sports world". The only sport I was discussing was baseball, unless you consider my reference to Tiger. Nor did I ever say that rules or laws were all correct or right. My only point is that certain codes and rules are in place for a reason. If you want to relate what Rosa Parks or TJ did to what Jose Canseco did, then be my guest, but I don't believe Mr. Canseco was being oppressed in any way. He is just a has been that wanted to run his mouth.
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CN1 said:
So you're telling me that we make laws, so we can break them? It is difficult to have a tyrant ran society when you have a democracy governing you. By no means do I agree with most things the government does, but if you want tyrants, take a look at China. Of course we break rules everyday...we are not perfect, nor is the system, but I still say rules are put in place for a reason. Without rules or laws, you have an anarchy. We are kind of straying off of the subject at hand here. Let me ask you this: What was the purpose of Canseco's remarks? If he thought it were so wrong, then why didn't he do it himself or speak up about it before he retired. He is a has-been who wanted to be in the spotlight. In what way was this good for baseball? I'm not against testing in the MLB at all, but I don't see any purpose at all for what Canseco did. If steroids are the reason guys are jacking 70 HRs, then why in the hell didn't he ever sniff 60 HR? It never seems to be the really good players who talk about steriods in the MLB like Ripken or Ted Williams, it is only the hot shot, big mouths who think they are something special. BTW, Canseco will never make the HOF, and his statements just sealed his fate.
no I never said we make laws, lawyers and judges make laws, the government doesnt make the laws, it governs it, the judicial branch makes the laws, lawyers politicians judges.............bottom line is that at one point or another things get shaken up, and Jose Canseco is going to do his best to shake baseball up by exposing it!!!! I like the guy, he's not like my favorite baseball player, but he did alot, he fucked madonna too!!!!!!! Hey oh well!!!!! He will be known as the guy who never made the Hall of Fame cause he told the truth!!!!!!! Now what rules are being broken!!!!!! Automatically People will cite that Canseco kept himself out of the Hall of Fame, but in reality he was screwed over by some pretty lousy people!!!!! Then he is violated personally by a sector of society and discriminated against!!!!! Now is that right, or was he just a product of rules?
I haven't read EVERY reply to this thread. But YEah Steroids does play a part in hitting the HR's. But you know the other big part that play in the more HR's now a days? They've been moving the outfield in (the last few yrs) so the distance to hit over the fence is easier. They said the reason behind this is to get more people to come top the ballgames. Does anyone know what the distance was to the outfield 20yrs ago to now? I think its like 20ft closer or something like that.
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Name Names? Crazy A-Hole! I hate snitches.. Burn Him... Hope this doesnt start some mad mmedia hype against steroids and bring tighter standards etc.
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Quoted by CN1:
"He will be known as the guy who never made the Hall of Fame cause he told the truth!!!!!!! "
Hate to tell you this, but you may be the only one who will remember Canseco this way! He would have never made it even if he would have kept his mouth shut. He hit .266 lifetime and had more Ks than hits. He never reached 500 HR and yes he did hit and steal for 40, but only finished his career with 200 stolen baseswhich averages out to a whopping 11 SB/year. You'll have to exuse me if I don't shed a tear for the poor, abused, mistreated Jose who was held down by THE MAN. The truth is that most people forgot about Canseco years ago. The only thing that he has done rememberable in the past 8 years was get traded a lot and let a baseball bounce off of his head for a HR.
"He will be known as the guy who never made the Hall of Fame cause he told the truth!!!!!!! "
Hate to tell you this, but you may be the only one who will remember Canseco this way! He would have never made it even if he would have kept his mouth shut. He hit .266 lifetime and had more Ks than hits. He never reached 500 HR and yes he did hit and steal for 40, but only finished his career with 200 stolen baseswhich averages out to a whopping 11 SB/year. You'll have to exuse me if I don't shed a tear for the poor, abused, mistreated Jose who was held down by THE MAN. The truth is that most people forgot about Canseco years ago. The only thing that he has done rememberable in the past 8 years was get traded a lot and let a baseball bounce off of his head for a HR.
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