joint pain

[dhudson8]

I'm sure this isn't extremely uncommon. I keep getting alot of pain in my shoulders when doing chest excersises. I am using proper form, but my shoulders are sore. I have had a shoulder injury in the past, but oddly enough its not the old injury that is causing me trouble the pain is in the opposite side. It seems like especially while on cycle my muscles get alot stronger than my joints and tendons much faster. Is there something I can take to help with these pains.

Also when doing bicept curls sometimes I'll get a sharp pain in my forearms. Does anyone else ever get this? I think it could be from overcompensating the heavy weithg and using forearms slightly, but it will even hurt with lighter weight, its only a short pain but its sharp and only happens when I release my grip from the bar.

Thanks alot

 

[rkp3194]

I'm sure this isn't extremely uncommon. I keep getting alot of pain in my shoulders when doing chest excersises. I am using proper form, but my shoulders are sore. I have had a shoulder injury in the past, but oddly enough its not the old injury that is causing me trouble the pain is in the opposite side. It seems like especially while on cycle my muscles get alot stronger than my joints and tendons much faster. Is there something I can take to help with these pains.

Also when doing bicept curls sometimes I'll get a sharp pain in my forearms. Does anyone else ever get this? I think it could be from overcompensating the heavy weithg and using forearms slightly, but it will even hurt with lighter weight, its only a short pain but its sharp and only happens when I release my grip from the bar.

Thanks alot

bump

 

[Mac173]

Are you on cycle currently?
It is very common to get joint,tendon,ligament pain while on cycle because your muscles are growing fast and your tendons can't keep up.
Back off slightly for a while, you don't want permanent damage.
I take glucosamin chondroitin MSM for my joints.

 

[dhudson8]

I was on cycle, but finished a few weeks ago. The pain however isnt so much during cycle though. I still get these pains even when working naturally. My shoulders ar actually pretty strong in comparison so I know its just not that I'm weak in a certain area, I just don't understand why I cant push much weight.
I feel like my muscles have alot left to push but the pain in my shoulders stops me from pushing.

Also this pain is consistently caused by me bringing the bar completely down to my chest. When I stop just past a 90 elbow bend I don't get these pains. I know that really either way could build the same muscle, but does it really matter if you go completely down to your chest?? When I go all the way down is when i get the pain in my shoulders.

I am going to start another cycle in abour 6 weeks. On this cycle I will be taking a MV, BCAA, protein, and possibly the amplify stack or part of it. I'm just not sure what else I can take to help with the joints and the pain I'm gettting.

Does anyone else get the forearm pain like described and/or know how to get it to go away?

 

[rkp3194]

I was on cycle, but finished a few weeks ago. The pain however isnt so much during cycle though. I still get these pains even when working naturally. My shoulders ar actually pretty strong in comparison so I know its just not that I'm weak in a certain area, I just don't understand why I cant push much weight.
I feel like my muscles have alot left to push but the pain in my shoulders stops me from pushing.

Also this pain is consistently caused by me bringing the bar completely down to my chest. When I stop just past a 90 elbow bend I don't get these pains. I know that really either way could build the same muscle, but does it really matter if you go completely down to your chest?? When I go all the way down is when i get the pain in my shoulders.

I am going to start another cycle in abour 6 weeks. On this cycle I will be taking a MV, BCAA, protein, and possibly the amplify stack or part of it. I'm just not sure what else I can take to help with the joints and the pain I'm gettting.

Does anyone else get the forearm pain like described and/or know how to get it to go away?

i do bro. bad sometimes. thats why i bumped you. i wear gloves with wrist straps and right before i hit a set, i tighten the shit out of them.

 

[dhudson8]

I've tried wrist straps for the forearms, but nothing seems to work. I can work through the pain, its only a temporary pain i get when lifting and releasing the bar, but once done with the rep the pain is gone. I guess if i just pump out a whole lot of reps without putting down the bar I'm good I just don't understand the benching thing either. Is it necessary to come completely down to your chest as this is when i start to get pain in my shoulders.

 

[tdringo]

I had the same problem when using the barbell bench. A buddy of mine told me to use DB to bench with and it took a lot of stress off my shoulders. Worked pretty well for me.

 

[advanced-stealth]

yes try the DB press.

I had the same problem when using the barbell bench. A buddy of mine told me to use DB to bench with and it took a lot of stress off my shoulders. Worked pretty well for me.

 

[dhudson8]

I do use the DB but I like to alternate between the DB and the bench every now and then. When I'm using strictly DB I seem to not gain as much strength on the flat bench. However I do get good results so maybe I'll just stick with the DB. However that doesnt really answer the question about needing to go completely down for the benchpress. It seems that you would only need to go with elbows past 90 to work the pecs, anything further than that and you seem to be working other muscles... shoulders, this woul dalso explain the pain I get.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I do use the DB but I like to alternate between the DB and the bench every now and then. When I'm using strictly DB I seem to not gain as much strength on the flat bench. However I do get good results so maybe I'll just stick with the DB. However that doesnt really answer the question about needing to go completely down for the benchpress. It seems that you would only need to go with elbows past 90 to work the pecs, anything further than that and you seem to be working other muscles... shoulders, this woul dalso explain the pain I get.

Definitely go with DB presses (go heavier on them anyway) and go relatively lighter on bb presses if you must do them.... what you're experiencing is classic "bench presser's shoulder"... has alot to do with the position of your hands on the bar and how far you bring the bar down... I know some guys will argue that you have to bring the bar below the 90 degree point to work the chest more, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to... you'll work your chest just as much not doing that and you'll reduce the risk of injury / pain. Also, proper form and less weight will get you better results than going heavier with improper form.... Also try varying grips on the bar and see what how your shoulders feel.

For your arms, are you using a curl bar or str8 bar? I think str8 bar curls will give a better arm workout but curl bars tend to minimize possible injury.

 

[dhudson8]

It doesnt really matter what type of curl I am doing, anytime I am using a bar of any sort it hurts my forearms slightly, not all the time, its kind of hit or miss. just like the bench when using dumbells or machines for BI's I don't have any pain.

Sticking with the barbell press isn't a huge concern, so I'll just go with a ligher weight on there and heavier weight with the dumbells.

Thanks

 

[auswalk]

Glucosamine bro!! That is the greatest stuff on earth. Go to your local Walmart and get a batch.

 

[TM248]

i know what your talking about with the forearms... its like shoots down your arm a little right? i just strengthed my forearms over some months and it got progressively better... do forarm curls, reversecurls, standing forearms curls ( bar behind you)

make those forearms grow stronger and bigger

 

[thelion2005]

You have some chronic injuries that are not getting enough rest to heal. For the forearms, probe into the muscles with your finger tips and find the hot spot of the injury. Wrap that area with some Ace wraps to compress and support the muscle while you work out. Ice that spot afterwards.

As for the shoulder ... find the spot. It is usually under the front/side delt. Inject it with HGH or aas ... use a 1 1/2 pin. This will cause the body to repair the damage.

Also ... change the angle of the bench or hand placement. It won't take much. Ice the spot afterwards. Don't be surprised if a machine is best now. Yates switched to more and more machines to work around his chronic joint injuries.

 

[boyer]

You have some chronic injuries that are not getting enough rest to heal. For the forearms, probe into the muscles with your finger tips and find the hot spot of the injury. Wrap that area with some Ace wraps to compress and support the muscle while you work out. Ice that spot afterwards.

As for the shoulder ... find the spot. It is usually under the front/side delt. Inject it with HGH or aas ... use a 1 1/2 pin. This will cause the body to repair the damage.

Also ... change the angle of the bench or hand placement. It won't take much. Ice the spot afterwards. Don't be surprised if a machine is best now. Yates switched to more and more machines to work around his chronic joint injuries.

Great info some new things to try.

 

[solidspine]

I wish it were uncommon, but very, very common.

What is your cycle?

 

[dhudson8]

My last cycle consisted of sust at 1000mg/wk and this next cycle starting in about 4 weeks will be sust along with tren/mast/prop blend.

Should work pretty well. I pack on the mass pretty well also get good strength gains, just looking for more of that and hopefully will be able to lean down a little. I'm not trying as much for mass as I am to lean on this cycle. I would like to try and get down to 10% or less. Right now I'm 6'2" 240 15%, would like to get down a little more in bf% though.