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Johnson and Johnson Hid Risperdal Studies to Boost Drug Sales

blueta2

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This is shocking, I cannot believe pharma lied!!! I thought they were honest and pure!

Truly, some medicines are a miracle, but that is about 1% that actually work, I cannot believe most still believe in pharma medicine.
What a joke that natural healing is discredited because of lack of research, yet 99% of pharma meds show NO evidence of efficacy. They show more prove of harm and deaths.

Scary stuff!

J&J Hid Risperdal Studies to Boost Drug Sales, Lawyer Says - Businessweek
 
I am not suprised.

people just need to stop being lazy and get active,exercise and eat right and there will be less of a need for meds. in the last four years of what I call the lazy married stage of my life I developed huge anxiety issues, ended up on ciprolex. who knows if it even worked. but once I got back into the gym,starting eating properly I was able to come off the meds totally and feel better than I have in a decade.
 
My highschool sweetheart (a redhead, you can read how I took her virginity here: Whitney Houston dead at 48 - Page 14) graduated from Michigan State with a biomed degree and went to work for Pfizer.

She eventually became a senior scientist but her first job was to euthanize the stray dogs after the experiments were complete by injecting air into their bladders (see would you kill puppy for $1MM thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/would-you-kill-puppy-million-dollars-854333.html)

Back when she told me what they had her doing, I couldn't believe she had gotten to the point where she could do that. Though after 20 years or so she rediscovered herself and now owns an interfaith bookstore.
 
You forgot to add this part to your thread title:
, Lawyer Says

A lawyer for someone suing J&J claims J&J hid the study. J&J Lawyers say they didn't.
 
theoak01 said:
I am not suprised.

people just need to stop being lazy and get active,exercise and eat right and there will be less of a need for meds. in the last four years of what I call the lazy married stage of my life I developed huge anxiety issues, ended up on ciprolex. who knows if it even worked. but once I got back into the gym,starting eating properly I was able to come off the meds totally and feel better than I have in a decade.
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true on all counts!
I was fading away FAST when I was on meds for Lupus and Lyme, How crazy that I took all those meds, but that was before I got into the natural living. In fact, my illness brought me to what I do today because once I started to change my life naturally (eating better, working out more etc), I became functional again.

Meds have their place for sure; if I had meningitis, I would take abx, but med's actually only help less than %1 of any illnesses.

Good post
 
nydj66 said:
My highschool sweetheart (a redhead, you can read how I took her virginity here: Whitney Houston dead at 48 - Page 14) graduated from Michigan State with a biomed degree and went to work for Pfizer.

She eventually became a senior scientist but her first job was to euthanize the stray dogs after the experiments were complete by injecting air into their bladders (see would you kill puppy for $1MM thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/would-you-kill-puppy-million-dollars-854333.html)

Back when she told me what they had her doing, I couldn't believe she had gotten to the point where she could do that. Though after 20 years or so she rediscovered herself and now owns an interfaith bookstore.
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wow, some story! Makes me so angered that these fuckers abuse animals in the name of research!
To get to a point that you can kill a dog like that is scary, but at least she found her spirit and stopped that.

fuck Pharma!
 
blueta2 said:
true on all counts!
I was fading away FAST when I was on meds for Lupus and Lyme, How crazy that I took all those meds, but that was before I got into the natural living. In fact, my illness brought me to what I do today because once I started to change my life naturally (eating better, working out more etc), I became functional again.

Meds have their place for sure; if I had meningitis, I would take abx, but med's actually only help less than %1 of any illnesses.

Good post
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Source?
 
blueta2 said:
This is shocking, I cannot believe pharma lied!!! I thought they were honest and pure!

Truly, some medicines are a miracle, but that is about 1% that actually work, I cannot believe most still believe in pharma medicine.
What a joke that natural healing is discredited because of lack of research, yet 99% of pharma meds show NO evidence of efficacy. They show more prove of harm and deaths.

Scary stuff!

J&J Hid Risperdal Studies to Boost Drug Sales, Lawyer Says - Businessweek
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I blow bubbles in the wind and hope my pancreatic cancer will dissppear
 
she likes me to whip her ass with a car antenna while she rides my cock
fuc do I have to do this
 
shes like one of them moms you meet and bang for 36 hours or so
raid the fridge
open a few cans
 
skeptical about the diabetes claim....would have to see their argument as to how the medication could cause insulin sensitivity. The probem they're goin to run into is that western society/culture in general causes diabetes. The catalysts for every type of illness imagineable run rampant in the west. Conclusively proving that one drug took diabetes is gonna be tough. IF they show some of these people out hogging down american fast foood......well there goes their case. If all the evidence they have is the stats that people on that drug got more diabetes than the control.....tough sell. Especially in this run down dilapidated culture.
 
redsamurai said:
skeptical about the diabetes claim....would have to see their argument as to how the medication could cause insulin sensitivity. The probem they're goin to run into is that western society/culture in general causes diabetes. The catalysts for every type of illness imagineable run rampant in the west. Conclusively proving that one drug took diabetes is gonna be tough. IF they show some of these people out hogging down american fast foood......well there goes their case. If all the evidence they have is the stats that people on that drug got more diabetes than the control.....tough sell. Especially in this run down dilapidated culture.
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LIKE MY STATUS IF YOU ALREADY KNOW MANY ANTIPSYCHOTICS DO IN FACT CAUSE INSULIN RESISTANCE!!!!

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one time I went to white castle with my face covered in blood
I was hu gry
 
blueta2 said:
true on all counts!

Meds have their place for sure; if I had meningitis, I would take abx, but med's actually only help less than %1 of any illnesses.
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I have no doubt there is outstanding science behind that claim.
 
Mr. dB said:
Deregulation would fix all this.
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This was a heavily-regulated drug covered by FDA's toughest regulations -- the New Drug Approval (NDA) process. It costs at least a couple hundred million dollars to execute and often much more than that.

This ridiculously-long process already kills or injures at least a few hundred thousand (maybe millions of) people per year by delaying their treatment through their failure to approve drugs.

Are you saying we should make the process even longer so more can suffer or die?
 
mrplunkey said:
This was a heavily-regulated drug covered by FDA's toughest regulations -- the New Drug Approval (NDA) process. It costs at least a couple hundred million dollars to execute and often much more than that.

This ridiculously-long process already kills or injures at least a few hundred thousand (maybe millions of) people per year by delaying their treatment through their failure to approve drugs.

Are you saying we should make the process even longer so more can suffer or die?
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would depend on the drug wouldn't it numbnuts? if it's a drug to treat already end stage dying people..then yeah you have a point. But if you've got say a cholesterol medication, that gets prescribed in this country like aspirin...that actually then cause, oh i don't know, say heart attacks.....then yeah these drugs should have the shit vetted out of them. Because of the high prescription rate, they have the potential to make billions for the drug company so pardon me if i let out an "awwwww, poor baby" to any pharma's that wanna cry about being forced to thoroughly test their product before they bring it to market.
 
Mr. dB said:
Where did I say that?
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Oh, pardon my mistake. Were you not being sarcastic when you said: "Deregulation would fix all of this"?

If you were being serious then yes, I join you in your cause! Deregulation would be a great first step to prevent abuses like this.
 
redsamurai said:
would depend on the drug wouldn't it numbnuts? if it's a drug to treat already end stage dying people..then yeah you have a point. But if you've got say a cholesterol medication, that gets prescribed in this country like aspirin...that actually then cause, oh i don't know, say heart attacks.....then yeah these drugs should have the shit vetted out of them. Because of the high prescription rate, they have the potential to make billions for the drug company so pardon me if i let out an "awwwww, poor baby" to any pharma's that wanna cry about being forced to thoroughly test their product before they bring it to market.
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Yeah, it would make no sense to rush a drug to market that tries to address heart attacks and strokes, which strike over 2,000,000 Americans per year and lead to over 800,000 deaths.

You do know the example you picked is aimed at a disease that is the number one killer of Americans every single year, don't you?

:rolleyes:
 
I heard from one really smart person that statins are one of the best drugs that has been proven time and time again to decrease not only lab values, but truly prevent mortality. At least for men anyway. The data for women in less clear. Or so I heard somewhere. Clearly, that cannot be right.
 
likemystatus said:
I heard from one really smart person that statins are one of the best drugs that has been proven time and time again to decrease not only lab values, but truly prevent mortality. At least for men anyway. The data for women in less clear. Or so I heard somewhere. Clearly, that cannot be right.
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That's because women don't have the right electromagnetic fields encircling by their psychospiritual auras. If women just sprinkle a little bit of paprika on their skin and concentrate on a jasper meditation crystal, it increases their ethereal conductivity and the statin drug will work just great.

I'm sure blue has the link to the original science on this ground-breaking discovery.
 
red yeast rice is proven to lower cholesterol along with fish oil, why not go with that when you don't get side effects like you do statins
 
EarthRider said:
red yeast rice is proven to lower cholesterol along with fish oil, why not go with that when you don't get side effects like you do statins
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Because the relative impact of both approaches have a huge difference.

It's like the difference in drinking a "Testosterone Booster" smoothie versus shooting 750 mg of pharmaceutical-grade test cypionate into your ass.
 
But the pharmacy companies put kooties in their drugs so you'll crave more or them!!!!
 
mrplunkey said:
Oh, pardon my mistake. Were you not being sarcastic when you said: "Deregulation would fix all of this"?

If you were being serious then yes, I join you in your cause! Deregulation would be a great first step to prevent abuses like this.
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Opposing deregulation does not automatically mean supporting increased, oppressive over-regulation.

Unless you can't tell the difference. Maybe the subtle distinction is lost on you?
 
Mr. dB said:
Opposing deregulation does not automatically mean supporting increased, oppressive over-regulation.

Unless you can't tell the difference. Maybe the subtle distinction is lost on you?
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Doh! I keep forgetting you are one of those naive types who still believe you can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Don't let me burst your bubble then. I'm sure with sweeping action from congress, a new federal agency, and another $500B/year plowed into the FDA, they'd quit killing/maiming people with delayed treatments AND stop embarrassing themselves with incidents like the one mentioned on the OP.
 
mrplunkey said:
Doh! I keep forgetting you are one of those naive types who still believe you can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Don't let me burst your bubble then. I'm sure with sweeping action from congress, a new federal agency, and another $500B/year plowed into the FDA, they'd quit killing/maiming people with delayed treatments AND stop embarrassing themselves with incidents like the one mentioned on the OP.
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Lapsing into reductio ad absurdium doesn't add to your argument.
 
mrplunkey said:
Yeah, it would make no sense to rush a drug to market that tries to address heart attacks and strokes, which strike over 2,000,000 Americans per year and lead to over 800,000 deaths.

You do know the example you picked is aimed at a disease that is the number one killer of Americans every single year, don't you?

:rolleyes:
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You really have no idea how pervasive cholesterol medications are prescribed, even for people in their 20's. Later comes out these meds strip your body of COq10 which weakens your muscles and eventually can lead to things like parkinsons and alzheimers. But the pharma's penetrated the market so heavily and quickly with these meds that it's too late to turn back now otherwise the admission would lead to massive class action suits. The Clev.Clin cardiologist even admitted to me that the pharm companies were looking for ways to put COq10 supplementation into the statins. Problem is it just makes them way too expensive so they're not going to do it. BAck when i had my heart problem they wanted to put me on statins for really no particular good reason. I have well below avergage blood pressure, always have....and very low cholesterol. This is how the machine operates, they have a template they follow no matter what the real problem is. If they can't figure it out right away...just put em on some statins. I refused. Now I'm doing crossfit wkts..
 
redsamurai said:
You really have no idea how pervasive cholesterol medications are prescribed, even for people in their 20's. Later comes out these meds strip your body of COq10 which weakens your muscles and eventually can lead to things like parkinsons and alzheimers. But the pharma's penetrated the market so heavily and quickly with these meds that it's too late to turn back now otherwise the admission would lead to massive class action suits. The Clev.Clin cardiologist even admitted to me that the pharm companies were looking for ways to put COq10 supplementation into the statins. Problem is it just makes them way too expensive so they're not going to do it. BAck when i had my heart problem they wanted to put me on statins for really no particular good reason. I have well below avergage blood pressure, always have....and very low cholesterol. This is how the machine operates, they have a template they follow no matter what the real problem is. If they can't figure it out right away...just put em on some statins. I refused. Now I'm doing crossfit wkts..
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And if only you had refused the clenbuterol in the first place, you wouldn't have even been there.
 
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