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c gheller

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PCT help please Bros

I have read DRJMW's PCT program and want to try it. I was wondering if i take 750/1000mg test enanthate on its own per week for 8 weeks, will i need to use the clomid or can i get away with just the Nolva...even if i have to take more Nolva? I know you recommend to use Clomid over 600mg but i cannot get clomid. Any help will be much appreciated.
 
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Yeah i thought that would be the case. Since i cant get clomid ill have to lower the dose to below 600mg in future...thanks.
 
I wouldn't be too concerned. The combination of HCG and Nolvadex should be fine as long as you manage your estrogen with an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle.

Jenetic
 
Thanks Jenetic. Im taking 20mg daily at the moment and was thinking to up it to 40mg daily when i start the HCG since i cant get Clomid....does this sound alright?
 
That's fine.

Are you taking an aromatase inhibitor at the moment?

Jenetic
 
Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor. It's a basic anti estrogen which blocks estrogen by competing for the estrogen receptor. Aromatase inhibitors such as aromasin, femara and/or arimidex decrease circulating concentrations of estrogen by preventing the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. This is what is preferred form of estrogen management during a cycle.

Jenetic
 
Since ive only used Nolvadex during this cycle will it effect my recovery? Should i use arimidex during my PCT @ .5mg daily?
 
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c gheller said:
Since ive only used Nolvadex during this cycle will it effect my recovery? Should i use arimidex during my PCT @ .5mg daily?
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In general, yes it will affect your recovery. The degree to which this occurs is highly individual. The fact of the matter is that elevated estrogen levels can complicate and/or delay recovery. Therefore, an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex is a far superior choice compared to nolvadex. 0.5 mgs arimidex ED would be preferable if available. Nothing to be extremely concerned about at this point. Better safe than sorry.

Jenetic
 
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I started PCT yesterday with 1000iu and 40mg of Nolvadex. Im doing DRJMW PCT program so hopefully it works even though im not using the Clomid and as youve now made me aware i havent done the right thing in regards to controling estrogen. Should i up the dosage of Nolvadex? Or should i take some Arimidex during my PCT. What would you recommend i do? Im quite worried as ive had some disastrous previous experiences.
By the way bro thankyou for all the help and great advice you provide. Peace.
 
In that case, use 1 mg Arimidex ED begining now and for a total of 10 days consecutively. That should get things under control.

Jenetic
 
Jenetic, Im in week 1 of the PCT discussed above. My question is i intend to get a blood test done in week 7or 8 to see how my recovery went. My question is what do i do if i am not recovered when i get my blood work results back?
 
Week 8 should be a good time to have your blood work done. Get your results first and we will talk then. I don't want to jump to any conclusions and have you worried over a bunch of "possibilities". The plan looks solid and you should be fine. Is there something which you are concerned about from previous cycles?

Jenetic
 
Yeah week 8 is cool. Yes im worried because ive had some really bad crashes in recent times, and i want to avoid another at all costs.
 
In that case, take some extra time off following this cycle. Post your results or just PM me when you get them.

Jenetic
 
Yes ok ill get my bloodwork done week 8 and ill message you. How long do you recommend i take off? Thankyou for all your advice.
 
6-12 months.

Jenetic
 
Let's wait until you get your results back.

Jenetic
 
Actually the last cycle 0f 500mg weekly of sustanon was my first coming off an almost 2 year break...do you still think i need a break. Either way i guess it cant hurt.
 
J, im taking 1mg Arimidex for 10 days consecutive(as suggested by you) with my PCT of 1000iu Hcg Mon,Wed,Fri and 40 mg daily nolvadex. My question is i was reading the leaflet that comes with the Arimidex tonight and it says do not take Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) or any medicine which contains estrogen as they may reduce the effectiveness of Arimidex. Do you think that is why i feel a burning sensation in my nipples from time to time(im on 40mg nolva daily). What do you think? Should i cut the nolva back to 20 mg daily, or stick with it since ive only got 7 days of the Arimidex to go.By reading this i presume it is far better to use arimidex alone during a cycle and save the nolva for pct.Is this assumption correct?
 
There shouldn't be any complications. Keep in mind the leaflet is referring to female breast cancer patients. Since nolvadex is technically an estrogen itself, the complication in female patients is probably due to possible agonisitic effects of nolvadex. I'm not sure what the burning sensation is.

You can stay at 40 mgs ED if you like. Considering you are decreasing serum estrogen, 20 mgs should suffice for recovery purposes.

Yes, your assumption is correct. Arimidex is best used during the cycle.

Jenetic
 
ok. Whats up with the burning sensation in the nipples ? Is it estrogen? I thought taking 1mg arimidex and 40mg nolva per day would more than fix that issue.
 
Itching and tenderness is usually associated with gynecomastia. I've never heard of a burning sensation though.

Jenetic
 
Im nearing the end of week 1 of my pct which means its 2 weeks after my last shot of sustanon so ill know in a few days time how effective this pct has been because if my natural test levels are low im going to feel it let me tell you.
 
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Itching and tenderness is usually associated with gynecomastia. I've never heard of a burning sensation though.

Jenetic
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Itchy=scratching=burning sensation maybe??? Just a thought.
 
Re: PCT help please Bros

c gheller said:
I have read DRJMW's PCT program and want to try it. I was wondering if i take 750/1000mg test enanthate on its own per week for 8 weeks, will i need to use the clomid or can i get away with just the Nolva...even if i have to take more Nolva? I know you recommend to use Clomid over 600mg but i cannot get clomid. Any help will be much appreciated.
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That's a very high dose of test to be using. Esp. if you need to ask this question... Are you an experienced AAS user????

Anyway, short answer... HCG/Clomid is what I would opt for for PCT and keep a LOT of nolva on hand for possible gyno...
 
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I wouldn't be too concerned. The combination of HCG and Nolvadex should be fine as long as you manage your estrogen with an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle.

Jenetic
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Jenetic, is nolva technically and anti-estrogen or an aromatase inhibitor - or are they one in the same. I thought Arimd. was an aromatase inhibitor. Can you clear me up on this?
 
Jenetic said:
Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor. It's a basic anti estrogen which blocks estrogen by competing for the estrogen receptor. Aromatase inhibitors such as aromasin, femara and/or arimidex decrease circulating concentrations of estrogen by preventing the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. This is what is preferred form of estrogen management during a cycle.

Jenetic
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Never mind... should have read futher! :worried:
 
Jenetc, Im ending my second week of PCT and am taking the Arimidex 1mg for 10 days consecutive as you suggested. The question is today is the tenth day and i still have some nipple soreness, do i continue the Arimidex?
 
No, just the nolvadex.

Jenetic
 
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