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Matthersby
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I think we would all be surprised at how little alot of these pros use in a given month or year.
From realistic speculation that I've heard/read:
1 gram pharm test a week
5-10 iu pharm HGH ed
5-10 iu insulin ed
+ 10 years training with no skipped workouts, no overtraining, no slacking, ridiculous discipline in every area, especially diet.
+ genetics that not only respond to training better than anyone we know, but a response to anabolics that surpasses most that have even attempted using p.e.d.'s.
From realistic speculation that I've heard/read:
1 gram pharm test a week
5-10 iu pharm HGH ed
5-10 iu insulin ed
+ 10 years training with no skipped workouts, no overtraining, no slacking, ridiculous discipline in every area, especially diet.
+ genetics that not only respond to training better than anyone we know, but a response to anabolics that surpasses most that have even attempted using p.e.d.'s.
^^^ yup.
and throw in the best trainers/friends that push them and the best facilities.
basically spending 24/7 doing this, its their jobs. until anyone on this forum can say their actual job is bodybuilding 24/7 no one will ever look like them period. and thats OKAY!! i love being a gym rat, nothing wrong with it!
and throw in the best trainers/friends that push them and the best facilities.
basically spending 24/7 doing this, its their jobs. until anyone on this forum can say their actual job is bodybuilding 24/7 no one will ever look like them period. and thats OKAY!! i love being a gym rat, nothing wrong with it!
Matthersby
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^ yup.. I just took 12 days off for knee surgery(miniscus tear). And besides eating vicodin, my only job has been to eat, sleep, and train my upper body. Gains have rivaled the previous month's gains(where I worked 50 hours a week and was expected to participate in all daily activities and relationships) and I'm only 7 days into my vacation/sick leave. Having no job + limitted reponsibilities and stress= I believe one can reach genetic potential without any aas.
I have a large bro who is trained by his friend who happens to be a pro so I get a lot of the info. I notice that most pros do like to mix long and short esters and change up ester types every 6-8 weeks or so. Why? I dunno. I know that some pros are more "sane" than others. But I guess sane is a relative term. Some pros also have that genetic awsomeness that lets them use and respond to 1/3 the gear that a normal human would grow on. So throw a gram of test, 700mg Tren ace, 100mg var ed ect into somone who responds 200-300% better than 99% of us and they are going to be freaks. Not to mention Hgh and slin.
GetBig1213
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Guy I used to work with was friends w a couple pros. Lifted with them quite frequently, all their cycles varied. One thing thy didnt change was their 8-10k on "supps" a month.
Either way I can honestly say, put me on all that and I won't come close to them still. Majority of us wouldn't. I'll never take away credit they deserve for the work they put in. They truly made it their lifestyle year round 24hrs/day.
Either way I can honestly say, put me on all that and I won't come close to them still. Majority of us wouldn't. I'll never take away credit they deserve for the work they put in. They truly made it their lifestyle year round 24hrs/day.
cloud_of_chalk
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come on guys, ronnie, jay all are natural !o-0 i have personally asked ronnie what he takes, he said BSN supplements ,NOT, i have met him personally though!!
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UA_Iron
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Top level pros dont get away with low doses. They just dont.
Dedication777
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I'll be that big one day, as soon as I find a sugar moma lol
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blue_steel74
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Honestly guys, you have 2 different scenarios when it comes to pros. Scenario 1, are the guys who train right, eat right, and get enough rest. These guys dont take half as much as people think bc they simply dont HAVE to. They actually put in the work where its supposed to be put in, and thats at the dinner table and in the gym and resting.
Then you have scenario 2, which is the guys who take retarded-ass amounts of gear because these guys are too lazy to work for it. Usually these are the guys who you hear about having alot of organ issues and they end up very sick or just get burned out on bodybuilding. Dorian never took over 750mg of test in his off season, and look how his physique was. But he also worked harder than anyone else in the gym.
Im not saying that most pros dont take alot of gear, but as far as ppl saying its 3-5 grams of test, 200mg of dbol , 25 iu slin and all that shit, i dont buy into that. It might be alot, but its not THAT much. But im sure some do take it to an unhealthy extreme and those are the guys who dont live much past 40.
I actually know of a top pros cycle, but i wont disclose that info bc i was sworn to keep my mouth shut about it. But i will tell you guys that its not near as much as youd think
Then you have scenario 2, which is the guys who take retarded-ass amounts of gear because these guys are too lazy to work for it. Usually these are the guys who you hear about having alot of organ issues and they end up very sick or just get burned out on bodybuilding. Dorian never took over 750mg of test in his off season, and look how his physique was. But he also worked harder than anyone else in the gym.
Im not saying that most pros dont take alot of gear, but as far as ppl saying its 3-5 grams of test, 200mg of dbol , 25 iu slin and all that shit, i dont buy into that. It might be alot, but its not THAT much. But im sure some do take it to an unhealthy extreme and those are the guys who dont live much past 40.
I actually know of a top pros cycle, but i wont disclose that info bc i was sworn to keep my mouth shut about it. But i will tell you guys that its not near as much as youd think
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