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Warik
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I saw some JWs walking around on Christmas morning. I think the guy whose house they were approaching was getting ready to turn the hose on them.
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VicTusDeuS
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I remember a greek lady down the street who was bothered by the JW's one day. She told them she couldnt read or speak english so they would leave her alone. They came back the next day with a translator and greek books. 
Hollywood131
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Jehovah's Witnesses
Isa.43:10-12: "You are my witnesses," is the utterance of Jehovah, "even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that you may know and have faith in me, and that you may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior." "I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among you no strange [god]. So you are my witnesses, is the utterance of Jehovah, "and I am God.
Their beliefs and practices are not new but are a restoration of first-century Christianity. According to the Bible, the line of witnesses of Jehovah reaches back to faithful Abel. Hebrews 11:4-12:1 says:"By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain
...By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear...By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed in going out into a place he was destined to receive as an inheritance...By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh, choosing to be ill-treated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin...So, then, because we have so great a cloud of Witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us."
With reference to Jesus Christ, the Bible states: " These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God." Of whom was he a witness? He himself said that he made his Father's name manifest. He was the foremost witness of Jehovah.
-Rev.3:14; John 17:6.
Why are Jehovah's Witnesses persecuted and spoken against?
Jesus said: " If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of he world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you." (John 15:18,19; see also Peter 4:3,4.) The Bible shows that the whole world lies under Satan's control; he is the principal instigator of he persecution.-1 John 5:19; Rev.12:17.
Jesus told his disciples: "You will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name."(Mark 13:13) The word "name" here means what Jesus officially is, the Messianic King. Persecution comes because Jehovah's Witnesses put his commands ahead of those of any earthly ruler.
When Jesus sent out his early disciples, he directed them to go to the homes of he people.(Matt. 10:7, 11-13)The apostle paul said regarding his ministry: " I did not hold back from telling you any of he things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house."-Acts 20:20,21; see also Acts 5:42.
A conference of religious leaders in Spain noted this: "Perhaps [the churches] are excessively neglectful about that which precisely constitutes the greatest preoccupation of the Witnesses-the home visit, which comes within the apostolic methodology of he primitive church. While the churches, on not a few occasions, limit themselves to constructing their temples, ringing their bells to attract the people and to preaching inside their places of worship, [the witnesses] follow the apostolic tactic of going from house to house and of taking advantage of every occasion to witness."
-El Catolicismo, Bogota, Colombia, September 14, 1975, p.14.
Jesus foretold for our day this work:"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all nations; and then the end will come." He also instructed his followers: "Go...and make disciples of people of all the nations."-Matt.24:14;28:19.
The message that the Witnesses proclaim involves the lives of people; they want to be careful to miss no one.(Zeph.2:2,3)Their calls are motivated by love-first for God, also for their neighbor.
Isa.43:10-12: "You are my witnesses," is the utterance of Jehovah, "even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that you may know and have faith in me, and that you may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior." "I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among you no strange [god]. So you are my witnesses, is the utterance of Jehovah, "and I am God.
Their beliefs and practices are not new but are a restoration of first-century Christianity. According to the Bible, the line of witnesses of Jehovah reaches back to faithful Abel. Hebrews 11:4-12:1 says:"By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain
...By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear...By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed in going out into a place he was destined to receive as an inheritance...By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh, choosing to be ill-treated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin...So, then, because we have so great a cloud of Witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us."
With reference to Jesus Christ, the Bible states: " These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God." Of whom was he a witness? He himself said that he made his Father's name manifest. He was the foremost witness of Jehovah.
-Rev.3:14; John 17:6.
Why are Jehovah's Witnesses persecuted and spoken against?
Jesus said: " If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of he world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you." (John 15:18,19; see also Peter 4:3,4.) The Bible shows that the whole world lies under Satan's control; he is the principal instigator of he persecution.-1 John 5:19; Rev.12:17.
Jesus told his disciples: "You will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name."(Mark 13:13) The word "name" here means what Jesus officially is, the Messianic King. Persecution comes because Jehovah's Witnesses put his commands ahead of those of any earthly ruler.
When Jesus sent out his early disciples, he directed them to go to the homes of he people.(Matt. 10:7, 11-13)The apostle paul said regarding his ministry: " I did not hold back from telling you any of he things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house."-Acts 20:20,21; see also Acts 5:42.
A conference of religious leaders in Spain noted this: "Perhaps [the churches] are excessively neglectful about that which precisely constitutes the greatest preoccupation of the Witnesses-the home visit, which comes within the apostolic methodology of he primitive church. While the churches, on not a few occasions, limit themselves to constructing their temples, ringing their bells to attract the people and to preaching inside their places of worship, [the witnesses] follow the apostolic tactic of going from house to house and of taking advantage of every occasion to witness."
-El Catolicismo, Bogota, Colombia, September 14, 1975, p.14.
Jesus foretold for our day this work:"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all nations; and then the end will come." He also instructed his followers: "Go...and make disciples of people of all the nations."-Matt.24:14;28:19.
The message that the Witnesses proclaim involves the lives of people; they want to be careful to miss no one.(Zeph.2:2,3)Their calls are motivated by love-first for God, also for their neighbor.
Hollywood131
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Why won't a Jehovah's Witness accept blood?
This is a particular area that many people do not understand and for which Jehovah's Witnesses are ridiculed. Perhaps the following information will explain why they choose to take such a stance. Whether you choose to take a similar stance or not is your own personal choice.
Christian's are commanded to 'abstain from blood'
Acts 15:28,29: " The holy spirit and we ourselves [the governing body of the Christian congregation] have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled [or killed without draining their blood] and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!" (There the eating of blood is equated with idolatry and fornication, things that we should not want to angage in.)
Animal flesh may be eaten, but not the blood
Gen.9:3,4:"Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its soul-its blood-you must not eat."
What about blood transfusions?
Does the Bible's prohibition include human blood?
Yes, and early Christians understood it that way. Acts 15:29 says to "keep abstaining from...blood." It does not say merely to abstain from animal blood. (Compare Leviticus 17:10, which prohibited eating "any sort of blood.") Tertullian (who wrote in defense of the beliefs of early Christains) stated: "The interdict upon 'blood' we shall understand to be (an interdict) much more upon human blood."
-The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol.IV,p.86.
Is a blood transfusion really the same as eating blood?
In a hospital, when a patient cannot eat through his mouth, he is fed intraveneuosly. Now, would a person who never put blood into his mouth but who accepted blood by transfusion really be obeying the command to "keep abstaining from...blood"?(Acts 15:29) To use a comparison, consider a man who is told by the doctor that he must abstain from alcohol. Would he be obediant if he quit drinking alcohol but had it put directly into his veins?
In the case of someone who refuses blood, there are alternative treatments.
1.Saline solution
2.Ringer's solution
3.dextran
All types of surgery can be performed successfully without blood transfusions. This includes open-heart operations, brain surgery, amputation of limbs, and total removal of cancerous organs.
When there is severe blood loss, the greatest need is to restore the fluid volume. Our blood is actually over 50 percent water; then there are red and white cells and so forth. When much blood is lost, the body itself pours large reserves of blood cells into the system to and speeds up production of new ones. But fluid volume is needed. Plasma volume expanders that contain no blood can be used to fill this need. These options do not carry the risk of AIDS, hepatitis, or malaria.
Many people equate a refusal of blood as a refusal of treatment. That is not he case, as the above examples would illustrate, there are non-blood options that one can choose.
Why should we take such a position?
1. Do you love your wife (husband) enough that you would be willing to risk your life for her (him)?...
There are also men who risk their lives for their country, and they are viewed as heroes, aren't they? But there is someone who is greater than any person or thing here on earth, and that is God. Would you risk your life because of love for him and loyalty to his rulership? 2.The issue here is really loyalty to God. It is God's Word that tells us to abstain from blood.(Acts 15:28,29)'
What if a doctor says,"you will die without a blood transfusion?
'If the situation is really that serious, can the doctor gaurantee that the patient will not die if he is given blood?'
'But there is someone who can give a person life again, and that is God. Don't you agree that, when face to face with death, turning one's back on God by violating his law would be a poor decision? I truly have faith in God, do you? His Word promises a resurrection for those who put faith in his Son. Do you believe that? (John 11:25)
This is a particular area that many people do not understand and for which Jehovah's Witnesses are ridiculed. Perhaps the following information will explain why they choose to take such a stance. Whether you choose to take a similar stance or not is your own personal choice.
Christian's are commanded to 'abstain from blood'
Acts 15:28,29: " The holy spirit and we ourselves [the governing body of the Christian congregation] have favored adding no further burden to you, except these necessary things, to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled [or killed without draining their blood] and from fornication. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!" (There the eating of blood is equated with idolatry and fornication, things that we should not want to angage in.)
Animal flesh may be eaten, but not the blood
Gen.9:3,4:"Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. Only flesh with its soul-its blood-you must not eat."
What about blood transfusions?
Does the Bible's prohibition include human blood?
Yes, and early Christians understood it that way. Acts 15:29 says to "keep abstaining from...blood." It does not say merely to abstain from animal blood. (Compare Leviticus 17:10, which prohibited eating "any sort of blood.") Tertullian (who wrote in defense of the beliefs of early Christains) stated: "The interdict upon 'blood' we shall understand to be (an interdict) much more upon human blood."
-The Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol.IV,p.86.
Is a blood transfusion really the same as eating blood?
In a hospital, when a patient cannot eat through his mouth, he is fed intraveneuosly. Now, would a person who never put blood into his mouth but who accepted blood by transfusion really be obeying the command to "keep abstaining from...blood"?(Acts 15:29) To use a comparison, consider a man who is told by the doctor that he must abstain from alcohol. Would he be obediant if he quit drinking alcohol but had it put directly into his veins?
In the case of someone who refuses blood, there are alternative treatments.
1.Saline solution
2.Ringer's solution
3.dextran
All types of surgery can be performed successfully without blood transfusions. This includes open-heart operations, brain surgery, amputation of limbs, and total removal of cancerous organs.
When there is severe blood loss, the greatest need is to restore the fluid volume. Our blood is actually over 50 percent water; then there are red and white cells and so forth. When much blood is lost, the body itself pours large reserves of blood cells into the system to and speeds up production of new ones. But fluid volume is needed. Plasma volume expanders that contain no blood can be used to fill this need. These options do not carry the risk of AIDS, hepatitis, or malaria.
Many people equate a refusal of blood as a refusal of treatment. That is not he case, as the above examples would illustrate, there are non-blood options that one can choose.
Why should we take such a position?
1. Do you love your wife (husband) enough that you would be willing to risk your life for her (him)?...
There are also men who risk their lives for their country, and they are viewed as heroes, aren't they? But there is someone who is greater than any person or thing here on earth, and that is God. Would you risk your life because of love for him and loyalty to his rulership? 2.The issue here is really loyalty to God. It is God's Word that tells us to abstain from blood.(Acts 15:28,29)'
What if a doctor says,"you will die without a blood transfusion?
'If the situation is really that serious, can the doctor gaurantee that the patient will not die if he is given blood?'
'But there is someone who can give a person life again, and that is God. Don't you agree that, when face to face with death, turning one's back on God by violating his law would be a poor decision? I truly have faith in God, do you? His Word promises a resurrection for those who put faith in his Son. Do you believe that? (John 11:25)
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Frackal
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The ones I have met are generally snootish and quite irritating...mormons are pretty fucking bad too though
thebabydoc
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Like I said Hollywood-
That whole blood thing is the most ridiculous crock I have ever heard. Nothing you wrote/quoted even remotely convinces me that refusal of blood transfusions, etc... is what is meant or that it can even be inferred from those passages.
BTW red blood cells (which make up approximately 40% of blood) CARRY OXYGEN you schmuck. Tissues need oxygen to survive. LR, D5, NS, Hespan, Albumin, and all other blood volume expanders do not have the ability to carry oxygen to tissue. They are also not retained in the circulatory system very long once the oncotic pressure has dropped secondary to severe blood loss.
That whole blood thing is the most ridiculous crock I have ever heard. Nothing you wrote/quoted even remotely convinces me that refusal of blood transfusions, etc... is what is meant or that it can even be inferred from those passages.
BTW red blood cells (which make up approximately 40% of blood) CARRY OXYGEN you schmuck. Tissues need oxygen to survive. LR, D5, NS, Hespan, Albumin, and all other blood volume expanders do not have the ability to carry oxygen to tissue. They are also not retained in the circulatory system very long once the oncotic pressure has dropped secondary to severe blood loss.
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