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J A C K O ... Always the KING of POP.

RyanH

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With all the recent publicity surrounding Micheal Jackson's newest CD titled "INVINCIBLE," I decided to pull out some of his greatest hits.........After listening to many of my old favorites, one fact still remains:

JACKO WILL ALWAYS BE THE KING OF POP----NO ONE, NOT NO ONE, even comes close.

Too bad, so many ignorant people have decided to condemn him without absolutely any evidence of any wrongdoing on his part in regards to abusing young children. But, then jealousy always has a way of making critics condemn those that are more talented than they are.

ECCENTRIC, he is, but so was Edgar Allen Poe, Walt Whitman, Van Gogh...........that is the hallmark of a true artist.

Long live, the JACKO.........
 
I'd like to believe he is innocent. Too often media latches onto a misinterpretation and passes it off as the truth. That and when you fall from that pedistal, get "old", or whatever you just seem to be more open to these kind of attacks. Happens to athletes too. People forget about how great they were when they stick around a few years after their prime, and then they seem to lose the respect they once had.
 
Freak Show said:
Happens to athletes too. People forget about how great they were when they stick around a few years after their prime, and then they seem to lose the respect they once had.

JACKO is still very respectable. People have a habit of tearing down those who are wealthier and more talented, even those who are eccentric. So what if he's had plastic surgery? It's what he fucking wants do with his life.

We should mind our own business. Live our own lives.
 
Didn't he pay millions upon millions (confirmed) to a few families for "some undisclosed reason"? Seems odd that he would do that to certain specefic kids families, guess hes just a REAL NICE guy?

One things for sure, he aint getting any prettier - my guess is in 10 years you wont be able to catch a pic of him he will be so hideous that he will hide from the public and cameras..


dont stop till ya get enough..
 
Please somebody here tell me that they've seen that old def comedy jam with Chris Tucker (before he was big) doing stand up?

He did this hilarious impression if Michael Jackson was a pimp...did anybody else see it?
 
Kakdiesel said:
Please somebody here tell me that they've seen that old def comedy jam with Chris Tucker (before he was big) doing stand up?

He did this hilarious impression if Michael Jackson was a pimp...did anybody else see it?

lol hell yea was that C.T. though? lol it was funny as heeaal....
 
He might still be popular around the world but todays teenagers in the states were too young to really remember him.....I can't say he's come out with anything worth a flip in at least 10 years

Though I would pay the price of a concert ticket to watch that Pepsi video again where he caught on fire
 
Again, if there was any substantial evidence of any wrongdoing, why did the case never go to trial?

If they child had really been abused, would the child's father have chosen money over justice? The answer seems obvious.

JACKO simply settled b/c of the damage these unfounded rumors were having on his career. It was all a plot to destroy him because of his fame, wealth, and talent.

It's a sad day when we accuse someone who has never even been to trial.........

But, nevertheless, JACKO IS STILL STANDING, and enjoys broad popularity overseas. Americans were the first to latch on to gossip and hyperbole.....Also see the Clinton case----he too is still standing, despite the critics.
 
"wanna be startin something, got to be startin something, say you wanna be starting something, got to be startin something.........."

His best song.
 
Slopain said:


lol hell yea was that C.T. though? lol it was funny as heeaal....

hell yeah...it was CT..he said, "slooow down tito....i said slow tito daaaaaamn.....is dat my ho over there...is that my ho over there???"

then he did that funny routine of MJ's where he hits the imaginary ho..

that was some of his best shit..
 
Further, there's no one that can move a crowd like Jacko does.

I would pay top dollar to see JACKO in concert.
 
RyanH said:
Again, if there was any substantial evidence of any wrongdoing, why did the case never go to trial?

If they child had really been abused, would the child's father have chosen money over justice? The answer seems obvious.

JACKO simply settled b/c of the damage these unfounded rumors were having on his career. It was all a plot to destroy him because of his fame, wealth, and talent.

It's a sad day when we accuse someone who has never even been to trial.........

But, nevertheless, JACKO IS STILL STANDING, and enjoys broad popularity overseas. Americans were the first to latch on to gossip and hyperbole.....Also see the Clinton case----he too is still standing, despite the critics.

I wasn't aware you new Mr Jackson - and if you think tens of millions wont keep a parents mouth shut you are naive.

WTF does clinton have to do with Jackson, clinton was caught and admitted to wrong doing - so your drawing a parralel between someone you claim (for god knows what reason) is innocent of SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN and Bill Clinton? That doesn't make sense.
 
Slopain said:


I wasn't aware you new Mr Jackson - and if you think tens of millions wont keep a parents mouth shut you are naive.

WTF does clinton have to do with Jackson, clinton was caught and admitted to wrong doing - so your drawing a parralel between someone you claim (for god knows what reason) is innocent of SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN and Bill Clinton? That doesn't make sense.

Of course, it makes perfect sense. Both were hunted out of jealousy. AND BOTH SURVIVED, despite the critics.....There's the similarity....
 
RyanH said:


Of course, it makes perfect sense. Both were hunted out of jealousy. AND BOTH SURVIVED, despite the critics.....There's the similarity....

Good we agree: similiar in their guilt.

Next topic?
 
Slopain said:


I wasn't aware you new Mr Jackson - and if you think tens of millions wont keep a parents mouth shut you are naive.

Since when were allegations sufficient to prove guilt. The answer: NEVER.
 
Slopain said:


Good we agree: similiar in their guilt.

Next topic?

Please. What was Clinton guilty of? Having sex with a young woman. Clearly most Americans didn't find the President guilty of any wrongdoing since he was a victim of extreme right wing plot to impeach him. Long live the Clinton Legacy.

But that's not the issue in this thread: JACKO'S legacy is.
 
RyanH said:


Since when were allegations sufficient to prove guilt. The answer: NEVER.

This isn't the US judicial system (you know the one that let OJ off the hook - do you believe he is innocent as well??) this is real life where we know MJ has shown very guilty reactions for someone who hasn't done anything wrong.
 
Slopain said:


This isn't the US judicial system (you know the one that let OJ off the hook - do you believe he is innocent as well??) this is real life where we know MJ has shown very guilty reactions for someone who hasn't done anything wrong.

I think the vast majority of American people are tired of witchhunts that lack any sort of real substance.

OJ Simpson was found innocent by a jury of 12 Americans. They had the final word, I accept their verdict.
 
I AM A BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLY!!

Jacko.jpg
 
RyanH said:


Please. What was Clinton guilty of? Having sex with a young woman. Clearly most Americans didn't find the President guilty of any wrongdoing since he was a victim of extreme right wing plot to impeach him. Long live the Clinton Legacy.

But that's not the issue in this thread: JACKO'S legacy is.

You didn't know he was guilty of Adultery? Oh that explains that, yeah Ryan it was Adultery he was guilty of. I guess from your statements I can surmise that Adultery has your stamp of approval?
 
BigPhysics--

Sure, Clinton might have lied. But why were we asking the question---because Paula "Hobag" Jones was accusing him of sexual harrassment. Other Presidents have lied as well-----Remember Bush's lie that he would never raise taxes, well he did. Reagan also lied about Iran Contra. Well, Nixon, now he wrote the book on lying....

Get my point. We just differ on this issue BigPhysics...you find personal sexual behavior as relevant....I do not.
 
WHAT DOES MICHEAL JACKSON'S PHYSICAL APPEARANCE HAVE TO DO WITH HIS EXTRAORDINARY TALENT......

NOTHING.
 
I think Michael Jackson is an extreme talent, and I will be buying his next CD, "Invincible." As far as the child abuse charges... Well, he DID pay off the family and it never went to trial. Other kids that hung with MJ did state in interviews that they slept in the same bed with him (what grown man has sleep overs?!). When Emmanuel Lewis ("Webster") was the one he hung with, he booked a hotel suite in New York for the two of them to spend the weekend until Manny's mother found out and put her foot down. So, I don't know... there's a kernel of truth buried in there somewhere...
 
Slopain said:


You didn't know he was guilty of Adultery? Oh that explains that, yeah Ryan it was Adultery he was guilty of. I guess from your statements I can surmise that Adultery has your stamp of approval?

No. I simply believe adultery between other couples is none of my business.

Adultery does not necessarily effect how effective a President is at doing his job....

IF the moral police went searching through the Republican party, all of Washington would be in deep shit.
 
"BEEN IN THE SHADOW, COME INTO THE LIGHT, TELL ME I'M WRONG....UM, YOU BETTER PROVE YOUR RIGHT....I GOT TO GET SRONGER I'M NOT GONE GIVE UP THE FIGHT....MAKES ME WANTA..........SCREAM.
 
RyanH said:



IF the moral police went searching through the Republican party, all of Washington would be in deep shit.

Your fun to play with..

I don't think its fair of you to mention Republicans in that statement without including Democrats. Do you think all democrats are without guilt? ESPECIALLY from a morality stand point?
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
he lied to a grand jury............and he was too much of a lowlife to not even have his affairs outside of the whitehouse. He brought disgrace to the oval office by having his cock wanked underneath the oval office desk. I probably wouldn't have cared had he done these things on his own time and outside of the white house.

Nixon used foul language in the Oval office, he attempted to cover up his crime from the oval office. Reagan lied from the oval office.

I don't see why getting your cock sucked in the white house is such a bad thing. I'm sure Lincoln did it, Truman did it, and even Coolidge probably did it. So what you get a blowjob....it's not like the oval office is effected unless you unload all over the walls or something.
 
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Slopain, of course, the Democrats are equally as guilty as the Republicans are. And that's my point.....many many politicians commit adultery......But, it's usually the Republicans that are the "moral police"---all the while they're probably unloading in some young intern as well..

What weight does it carry in being an effective politician.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
ehh esseee.......this is the first time I realized you were a mod bro......good......we need bro's like you to offset nimrods like Ryan.......hehe, very cool:fro:

There you go again, BigPhysics.......throwing insult after insult. Shame on you....you have more "morals" and dignity than that, don't you?
 
Warik said:


I thought you wanted to be poor.

-Warik

Warik, there you go again, putting words in my mouth that simply don't belong there. I just said that I would rather be poor than EXTREMELY wealthy.....

"I'm looking at the man in the mirror, oh yeah, I'm asking him to change his ways......if you wanta make the world a better place, then look at yourself, and make that.....CHANGE...."
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Sorry Ryan, calling you a nimrod doesn't go against my morals. I am a firm beleive in Darwinism, and it is my most fervent hope that you are gay and have no interest in procreation....:D

Why? We both know that if I do decide to grace this land with a Ryan Jr. someday, he will be bright, intelligent, and well, a lover of JACKO.:D
 
RyanH said:
Slopain, of course, the Democrats are equally as guilty as the Republicans are. And that's my point.....many many politicians commit adultery......But, it's usually the Republicans that are the "moral police"---all the while they're probably unloading in some young intern as well..

What weight does it carry in being an effective politician.

your right why dont we just all stop being moral since 100% of all the "moral" people fall short of true morality and the guidelines they intend to follow. :rolleyes: according to your logic we should all behave down to the lowest common denominator and no one on earth is in any position to encourage good behaovor because being human, by nature, they must have done something wrong in the past so that-there nulls anything the have to say, correct? Poor logic me thinks cutie.. poor logic. ;)
 
Slopain said:


your right why dont we just all stop being moral since 100% of all the "moral" people fall short of true morality and the guidelines they intend to follow. :rolleyes: according to your logic we should all behave down to the lowest common denominator and no one on earth is in any position to encourage good behaovor because being human, by nature, they must have done something wrong in the past so that-there nulls anything the have to say, correct? Poor logic me thinks cutie.. poor logic. ;)

WE ARE ALL FLAWED............Since the beginning of time, we have all sinned. Shakespeare captured this theme very well.....Clinton is simply flawed like the rest of us......It's time we all look in the mirror and see ourselves for who we really are-------Flawed, sinful humans that will one day return to the dust we came from.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Don't joke about a Ryan jr., I don't want to have to sick SG on him......but I will if I have to!!!:D

SG has been upset because NINJA X has been posting funnier pics than he has.

Capalism brings competition, remember?
 
"WE ARE THE WORLD, WE ARE THE CHILDREN, WE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY SO LET'S START GIVING.....THERE'S A CHOICE WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE SAVING OUR OWN LIVES, IT'S TRUE WE MAKE A BETTER DAY FOR YOU AND ME......":fro:
 
RyanH said:


WE ARE ALL FLAWED............Since the beginning of time, we have all sinned. Shakespeare captured this theme very well.....Clinton is simply flawed like the rest of us......It's time we all look in the mirror and see ourselves for who we really are-------Flawed, sinful humans that will one day return to the dust we came from.

I might have to stop this nonsense if you dont at least rebut the points I make which was:
Since we are all human and all "flawed" as you put it, should we not strive to be moral, b/c it is hypocrtical after all because we all arent 100% moral or good?
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
SO Ryan, what do you think about the Chinese having subsidized clinton's campaign? In return for Bill selling us out to the Chinese?

I would rather the Chinese, or Hussein for that matter, finance my campaign than the murderous N.R.A. or Phillip Morris Tobacco....cough cough.
 
Slopain said:


I might have to stop this nonsense if you dont at least rebut the points I make which was:
Since we are all human and all "flawed" as you put it, should we not strive to be moral, b/c it is hypocrtical after all because we all arent 100% moral or good?

Of course, we should strive to be moral. How do we know that Clinton is not striving to become more moral....I'm striving right now, as I place my bong to my lips.....
 
RyanH said:


I would rather the Chinese, or Hussein for that matter, finance my campaign than the murderous N.R.A. or Phillip Morris Tobacco....cough cough.

You are so fucked-up, man...
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Really!! the same chinese that are as we speak developing intercontinental delivery systems for their warheads?? Watch, we'll get into another cold war because clinton couldn't resist the delicious little piece of sushi that the chinese government sent as a "liason":rolleyes:

Phillip Morris Tobacco is also probably as we speak, developing a new Cancer Stick to deliver to millions of innocent Americans......and consequently, those Americans will lose their lives. What's the difference?

Further, I don't see how Bush has doing that good of a job in dealing with the Chinese. They think he is an idiot......Hell, he even caved into them when he offered an apology for the airplane being shot down....now that's a strong China policy, isn't it?
 
RyanH said:


Of course, we should strive to be moral. How do we know that Clinton is not striving to become more moral....I'm striving right now, as I place my bong to my lips.....


yeeahhh mmmkayy got it, your one of those lil guys that argues in her/his own little world.. ok duelly noted.

go-go-gadget ignore.. :D
 
RyanH said:


Phillip Morris Tobacco is also probably as we speak, developing a new Cancer Stick to deliver to millions of innocent Americans......and consequently, those Americans will lose their lives. What's the difference?



Does Phillip Morris make these people smoke? No, I do not think so.

Try again Ryan. As usual your arguments are pathetic and have no substance.
 
BO-CEPHUS said:



Does Phillip Morris make these people smoke? No, I do not think so.

Try again Ryan. As usual your arguments are pathetic and have no substance.

As usual Bo-cephus, you're on the attack. But your troops are weak. Sorry.

No Phillip Morris just encourages teenagers to smoke,,,,everyone knows that PHILLIP MORRIS produces death devices.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Ryan, when was the earliest you can remember that you knew smoking was bad for you? well, I've known that for the last 15-20 years, and I'm almost 24 now. Anyone that has started smoking during the last 25-30 years knew what they were getting into. And bush apologized for the tragicness of the whole incident, he did not directly assume all responsibility on behalf of the U.S......plus, I'm not totally convinced that the U.S plane "wasn't" in Chinese territory.....if you know your history you know that america has a bad habit of flying spy planes over countries we'd like to spy on.....we do it all the damn time.

BigPhysics are you honestly going to contend that Phillip Morris doesn't prey on teenagers? Come on. You know they do.

Also, Colin Powell just got back from kissing China Ass.....China has the upper hand on us and will continue to......they have Most Favored Nation Trade Status, we let them commit any human rights violation they want, they are about to over-run Tiawan, and they invaded Tibet.

Where are we? Still kissing China ass. Why? The question still evades me.
 
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RyanH said:


As usual Bo-cephus, you're on the attack. But your troops are weak. Sorry.

No Phillip Morris just encourages teenagers to smoke,,,,everyone knows that PHILLIP MORRIS produces death devices.


Phillip Morris is a business. If you are too stupid to know that abuse of cigarettes is hazardous to your health, then good riddance. You are not forced to smoke. You have the choice, thus you must face the consequences.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Ryan, isn't that a guy smoking in your sig?......yup, I think it is.....god how pathetic.......how really fucking pathetic!!!:rolleyes:

That is a toy cigarette in my picture.:D
 
It's only a matter of Time before the Chinese invade Tiawan. What do you think the Bush Administration will do then?
 
jacko is the man, will always have magilicuti's respect. and will always be the king of pop. :)

used to be a big fan of his. he is a bit weird now but that is not why ppl don't like him as much, just that he doesn't have any albums out. he ruled the 80s and i believe was the first african american to be on mtv
 
I am not going to join into this Republican or Democrat bashing here (although its so tempting and so much fun), I am actually going to stick to the tread and say that:

After all these years Micheal Jackson is STILL the king of pop and his songs like "Blame it on the boogie" and "Don't stop till you get enough" are STILL playing in my car and are STILL my favourite, I can't honestly say that any other 'pop' musician had similar effects on me, although I still listen to Stevie Wonder and 10CC occasionally.

Michael Jackson is the greatest pop artist ever.

hardgainer (blame it on the boogie)
 
So Ryan what you are saying is if you knew Michael Jackson personally and you had kids you would let him have them over for a sleepover?

Guy was/is talented, no doot aboot it, but so was Elvis and look how fucking stupid he was in his personal life.
 
For some reason people like to make excuses for the guy. I'm sure from a distance, he is a good performer. However I think you may have a different opinion about his performances if you were an 8 year old boy left alone with him!!!!!!!

He is sick, he is a pedophile. He needs(like all pedophiles do) to be institutionalized. Yes he's rich, so people call him eccentric. The reality is,however, that he is mentally ill, and a criminal.

Some of his songs were good. I will never listen to them, or buy anything that in any way puts money in his pocket!!
 
needleboy said:


He is sick, he is a pedophile. He needs(like all pedophiles do) to be institutionalized. Yes he's rich, so people call him eccentric. The reality is,however, that he is mentally ill, and a criminal.


Where's your proof?
 
Oh gee I don't know. The fact that he payed a 13 year old $20 million, after the kid could describe a brithmark on his genitals is a good indication!!!!

Get a fuckin clue!!! Please!!
 
needleboy said:
Oh gee I don't know. The fact that he payed a 13 year old $20 million, after the kid could describe a brithmark on his genitals is a good indication!!!!

Get a fuckin clue!!! Please!!

THat's still not sufficient proof indicating guilt.

There was no guilty verdict by a jury of his peers.

Maybe, you should do your homework better. When people spread negative rumors about you on this board, I don't necessarily believe them. You should practice this same approach.:)
 
RyanH, normally I agree with everything you say on these threads. You come across as being very intelligent and I respect you, but, this time, I have to disagree with you.

There is no concrete proof that Michael Jackson is a pedophile or a child molester, but, there certainly is enough circumstantial evidence to at least consider the possibility.

MJ frequently has had young boys between the ages of 8 and 13 over at his ranch for "sleepovers", and at least two of these boys went on national TV and said that they slept in the same bed as MJ. They said nothing happened between them, but, who knows? Maybe MJ was "creeping" while the boys were asleep. I would consider fondling child abuse, even if the kids are unaware.

As I stated in my post yesterday, Emmanuel Lewis' mother wouldn't allow her son to spend the weekend with MJ in New York at a suite he had reserved for the both of them... and ONLY them.

In J. Randy Tarraborelli's bio on Michael Jackson, he stated that Kathryn Jackson opened MJ's bedroom door without knocking and saw a visibly guilty MJ sitting on the bed with some young boy that he was spending time with (his books are very well researched).

MJ settled out of court with the young boy that accused him of molestation for millions instead of going to trial.

He's NEVER in the company of young girls.

MJ's been married twice, each marriage lasting exactly one year (trying to repair a damaged image?).

And, lastly, if he wasn't a celebrity and just another 40 year old single guy you knew that worked at the phone company, would you let your 10 year old son spend the night with him?

I know I wouldn't.
 
Mitchellm said:

MJ frequently has had young boys between the ages of 8 and 13 over at his ranch for "sleepovers", and at least two of these boys went on national TV and said that they slept in the same bed as MJ. They said nothing happened between them, but, who knows? Maybe MJ was "creeping" while the boys were asleep. I would consider fondling child abuse, even if the kids are unaware.

Since when does sleeping with someone equal sex. Come on, we've slept with our parents and even others when we were younger, and didn't have sex with them. As you mention, the children even admit that nothing happened. Sure, it may be unusual behavior, but unusual behavior does not necessarily mean SEXUAL BEHAVIOR.

Mitchellm said:

In J. Randy Tarraborelli's bio on Michael Jackson, he stated that Kathryn Jackson opened MJ's bedroom door without knocking and saw a visibly guilty MJ sitting on the bed with some young boy that he was spending time with (his books are very well researched).

"Visibly guilty" of what? Sitting on a bed with a child. This still does not imply sexual behavior. Was he nude and sitting on the bed with the child? Did he have his hand on the kid's crotch? Maybe that would imply inappropriate behavior. But thus far, all you are telling me is that he liked to sit and sleep on beds.

Mitchellm said:

MJ settled out of court with the young boy that accused him of molestation for millions instead of going to trial.

Well, wouldn't you settle if you're name was being dragged through the mud as a "pedophile." If JACKO had not settled then this whole story could still be on-going since we both know that lawsuits sometimes take decades to come to trial. Settlement does not equal guilt.

Mitchellm said:
He's NEVER in the company of young girls.
Well, Mr. Rogers tends to have young boys on his program more than young girls. Does that mean he likes young boys? Of course not.

Mitchellm said:
MJ's been married twice, each marriage lasting exactly one year (trying to repair a damaged image?).
Elizabeth Taylor also has a few marriages that lasted a short time. Does that mean she's a pedophile. We know the answer here as well.

MitchellM, I still nevertheless respect your right to your opinion. But do you really think it's fair that we are so quick to accuse based on mere circumstantial evidence that really says nothing, but-----JACKO likes to hang with children. Being labeled a "pedophile" is an ugly label----Don't you think we should be more hesitant before we use it?.....................
 
Mr. Rogers is also married, has grown children and grandchildren. Michael and Lisa Marie were married right after the scandal, proclaimed their love in every national forum possible, then, a year later, ended the marriage for "irreconcilable differences." Then, he turns around and marries some dowdy, frumpy nurse, "fathers" two children by her, then, a year later, they're divorced... and, he has custody of the children. Sorry, none of this smells right.

And, you're right, it is "unusual" behavior for a grown man to have "sleepovers" with little boys, and I think it's considered eccentric behavior by the public because he is Michael Jackson. But, would it still be considered unusual, quirky behavior if Joe Blow down the street had the neighborhood 12 year old boys spending weekends at his house and in his bed?

I would like to believe that MJ isn't a pedophile and maybe he's not by the definition of the word. But, he's way too odd for me to allow my sons or nephews to sleep at his ranch and in his bed. Sorry...
 
downward spiral

Funny how "proud" he must truly be of his black heritage to want to look... what in the hell is he trying to look like?
 
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