I've read a lot about EQ...

[mrplunkey]

Now it's time to find out from the pro's what it's *really* like!

What I think I know about EQ:

1) 200 to 400 mg/week is an "effective" dose
2) Injection frequency ranges from EoD to 2x/week
3) Slow to kick-in... 10+ weekers best cycles
4) Modest gains, but very keepable / comperable to Deca
5) Test-derivative, but resistant to aromitization
6) Can cause insomnia and shakes? (or is that just b/c it's vet)
7) Effect on libido??? Haven't heard of "EQ-dick" yet, but...

What about a light cycle like this:

10 Weeker:
300 mg EQ/week
60 mg Anavar/day
4-5 IU's HGH/day (5 on / 2 off)

Or... if you really think test belongs in *every* cycle:

10 Weeker:
125 mg Test/week (ultratest, a compounded blend)
200 mg EQ/week
60 mg Anavar/day
4-5 IU's HGH/day (5 on / 2 off)

Remember this would be only my third cycle ever and I only do light ones. I'm 6' 2.75", 244 lbs, 12% BF

 

[Nucman]

1. Yes 200 to 600mg/wk
2. EOD only for low dose gear. e5 to e7d is fine. It has a long T1/2
3. Yes 3 to 4 wks before you will see results, similar to Deca D
4. Yes very anabolic, mildly androgenic
5. Closer to Dbol, than test, and will not aromatize to any great degree
6. Insomnia? Shakes? Never experienced that. Some said anxiety, but never felt that either. Tren will/can cause insomnia.
7. I don't think it has an effect 1 way or the other on my Libid, but your milage may vary, as is with any of the above.

The aas dosages look sensible, but the HGH??? Have you ever done it?? 4-5iu/d is a little high at first. HGH needs to be done IMO, for at least 6mo, for it to be worth it. If it is not done with respect, it'll fuck you up. BUT I like the dosages on the aas cycle. Diet is everything!
--Nucman

 

[mrplunkey]

1. Yes 200 to 600mg/wk
2. EOD only for low dose gear. e5 to e7d is fine. It has a long T1/2
3. Yes 3 to 4 wks before you will see results, similar to Deca D
4. Yes very anabolic, mildly androgenic
5. Closer to Dbol, than test, and will not aromatize to any great degree
6. Insomnia? Shakes? Never experienced that. Some said anxiety, but never felt that either. Tren will/can cause insomnia.
7. I don't think it has an effect 1 way or the other on my Libid, but your milage may vary, as is with any of the above.

The aas dosages look sensible, but the HGH??? Have you ever done it?? 4-5iu/d is a little high at first. HGH needs to be done IMO, for at least 6mo, for it to be worth it. If it is not done with respect, it'll fuck you up. BUT I like the dosages on the aas cycle. Diet is everything!
--Nucman

I did 2 IU's/day of HGH on my first cycle and 5 IU's/day on my second -- I absolutly love the stuff. I'm considering dropping-back to 4 IU's for subsequent cycles though. Haven't had problems at 5, but it just seems high to me. I normally do the stuff year round, but try to take one 8-12 week break during the year.

For a number of reasons (including hairline), I'm trying to put together a minimally androgenic cycle that will still yield good, keepable gains.

 

[mrplunkey]

What about EQ and hairloss? Is it gentle? Since EQ is similar to test, does it convert to DHT? Would Propecia stop the conversion?

Is 300-350 mgs/week low enough that I need to shoot EoD, or is 2x a week enough?

Somebody's got to know these things

 

[Makavelli]

What about EQ and hairloss? Is it gentle? Since EQ is similar to test, does it convert to DHT? Would Propecia stop the conversion?

Is 300-350 mgs/week low enough that I need to shoot EoD, or is 2x a week enough?

Somebody's got to know these things

Some have problems with EQ and hairloss. It's not as bad as other drugs, especially at the dosages you're going with. Shoot it once a week and frontload it(this should start a good debate.. ). Use 800 mgs the first week, 600 the second, and then back down to baseline 400 for the remainder of the cycle.

 

[mrplunkey]

Some have problems with EQ and hairloss. It's not as bad as other drugs, especially at the dosages you're going with. Shoot it once a week and frontload it(this should start a good debate.. ). Use 800 mgs the first week, 600 the second, and then back down to baseline 400 for the remainder of the cycle.

Think 350 mg's/week of EQ is as hard on the hair as 250 mg's/week of Test?

 

[Makavelli]

Think 350 mg's/week of EQ is as hard on the hair as 250 mg's/week of Test?

I think you'll be fine at 400 mgs of EQ. EQ isn't as hard on hair as test.

 

[Phaded]

what would you all think about 400 mg of eq a week and 100 mg of test prop e3d.. thanks in advance.

 

[Clean]

I used EQ once bro at 400mg/week, and if I could do it again I would do 600mg/week. It was a while ago and I posted a thread about it and how little gains etc... i noticed and how I felt on it. Several others felt the same way I did about EQ and that you either need to have more than 400 mg/week or another steroid in there.

It's all up to you but just letting you know my experience. And there was no hairloss for me.

 

[ben hart]

I'm in week 4 of taking 600mgs EQ with 400mgs of T400 weekly, and just started to really feel it. Sex drive is o.k. Pumps are insane!

 

[saint john]

i saw an ad in the back of a couple muscle mags that said this can be purchased legally because it's a veterinary med. is this true? just to be sure, are we talking about equabuterol?

 

[Nucman]

equabuterol is not under discussion in this thread. Do you have asthma?

 

[mrplunkey]

I wonder what:

10 Weeker
300 mg's EQ/week
45 mg's Anavar/day
4-5 IU's HGH/day (5 on / 2 off)
60-80 mcg's Clen/day (2 weeks on / 2 weeks off)

Would look like... any ideas? I'm just getting sick of picking my own hairs off everything I own. I want something highly anabolic and minimally androgenic.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I like EQ over 600mgs EW

 

[DIVISION]

I like EQ over 600mgs EW

OMFGU!!!!!!

That enough for a whole cripset, much less ONE Cripsetter!!!!!!

Why such a sick dose?





DIV

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

OMFGU!!!!!!

That enough for a whole cripset, much less ONE Cripsetter!!!!!!

Why such a sick dose?





DIV

Bro, it's not sick, it's smooth for me. I run EQ higher then Test. Great gains, I get no sides from it (and I have anxiety ). It's my favorite roid - Just won't run it alone. Poor man's Primo

 

[Bigdogmikey]

I stayed on Eq for 7 monthes, 400mg a week is a good dose, 14 weeks atleast. its a long acting ester.
As far as gh i was on for a year, second time im on now 6 monthes goin for 11/2 years.....if u got gh questions pm me

 

[kbrkbr]

Think 350 mg's/week of EQ is as hard on the hair as 250 mg's/week of Test?

Eq is closer in structure to deca than it is to test. Neither eq nor deca have ever effected my hair much. Those two, plus var, are the easiest gear on my hair.

 

[mrplunkey]

Eq is closer in structure to deca than it is to test. Neither eq nor deca have ever effected my hair much. Those two, plus var, are the easiest gear on my hair.

I was doing test/deca but ran into that issue of "Propicia or no Propicia" since supposidly Test+Propecia=good but Deca+Propicia=bad. I figured that since EQ was similar to test in it's structure, that EQ would be degraded to DHT -- which makes Propecia a viable option.

Am I screwed-up on this one?

 

[mrplunkey]

May have answered my own question... but does everyone else believe this?

Boldenone does reduce to a more potent androgen (dihydroboldenone) via the 5alpha reductase enzyme (which produces DHT from testosterone), however its affinity for this interaction in the human body is low to nonexistent". We therefore cannot consider the reductase inhibitor Proscar? to be of much use with Equipoise, as it would be blocking what is at best an insignificant path of metabolism for the steroid.​

Also... I know EQ doesn't aromatize to estrogen much at all, but wouldn't 0.25 mg of Arimdex EoD still be a decent safety measure?

 

[The Shadow]

Some have problems with EQ and hairloss. It's not as bad as other drugs, especially at the dosages you're going with. Shoot it once a week and frontload it(this should start a good debate.. ). Use 800 mgs the first week, 600 the second, and then back down to baseline 400 for the remainder of the cycle.

Frontload 2x weekly on day one.....then weekly every 7 days...you will be at max comcenration by day 8

 

[macdaddy-1]

OMFGU!!!!!!

That enough for a whole cripset, much less ONE Cripsetter!!!!!!

Why such a sick dose?





DIV

Dont quite see how thats a sick dose bro.Im using 800 and 10 weeks in,worst substance known to man.Total shiyatt!Got a bro of mine running 1.4 and saying same thing.Whoever said this stuff was good in a bulker for lean keepable gains is a prat.The gains MAY be keepable??but thats if you actually gain anything to begin with.imo.

 

[Makavelli]

Frontload 2x weekly on day one.....then weekly every 7 days...you will be at max comcenration by day 8

Can you clarify Shadow? Thanks.