I've got to be missing something!

[liffalot]

Well, at least I hope I am. I've trimmed all my fat to the point where I can't lose any more and I want to start putting on muscle again. The obvious choice for lean muscle building would be a creatine compound (or multiple) which i have plenty of, a nutrient partitioner which I also have, and a free test booster which I also also have.

BUT I'm trying not to give up my phisique here. Creatine, nutrient parts and even free test boosters all make me put on so much water weight that I grow a pair of water bags around my loos skin in the mid section.

So, bottom line, are their supps out there that I'm missing that dont use water retaining technology or have water retaining side effects that can be used for a lean muscle building cycle?

(keep in mind, I'm too young for juice, prohormones, anti-estrogens, anything of the like)

Thanks

 

[stevesmi]

f*k man I just posted a thread exactly like this. trying to stay 'cut' and also building muscle/strength is a pain in the ass and I know exactly what you are talking about!

 

[liffalot]

Yea man, every supp either bloats me, fills my saddle bags up with water, or has some other nasty side effect that kills my physique!

Good to know that someone else feels my pain!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Any bulking supp will add some water. If you just want to get hard and aid in growth 100% natty I'd recommend, GEAR, BRIDGE, ZIP, UNLEASHED and DX7.

 

[ishaq]

good that your being straight up about your age mate, id recommend any high quality protien and a strong diet things like amino acids can aid greatly.

 

[liffalot]

good that your being straight up about your age mate, id recommend any high quality protien and a strong diet things like amino acids can aid greatly.

Thanks man, yea I've been using some super lean egg white protein and gear with tons of amino's and its been keeping me nice and solid making some slow progress.

Thank you also Nelson, I've heard good things about Unleashed and ZIP but I've never actually tried them. The others though I used to swear by and I'll probably use them again.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Your diet plays a big role in how much you bloat / put on water weight / fat...not just the supplements you're taking

 

[liffalot]

Your diet plays a big role in how much you bloat / put on water weight / fat...not just the supplements you're taking

yea i understand about things like MSG that bloat you but I eat healthier now than i did when I took those supps that bloated me. that coiuldve been part of tge problem

 

[liffalot]

where can you find bridge?

AND, what is the difference in HCGenerate functions and Unleashed? Just preference?

 

[Nelson Montana]

where can you find bridge?

AND, what is the difference in HCGenerate functions and Unleashed? Just preference?

Different mechanisms.

HcGen keeps LH elevated -- works really well for while on cycle.

UNLEASHED lowers SHBG and raises the level of naturally occurring free testosterone. It's good anytime but especially helpful for PCT.