I've got some sore titties!

[High-Jacked]

I finished an 8 week test/eq cycle 8 weeks ago. I used Nolva throughout and continued up unitl now. I am currently tapering down using only 8-10mg ed. I am getting estrogen rebound, my nips are getting puffy and sensitive. Do I need to get some arimidex and run that to get E levels down? Will that solve my problem? How would I run it, and can I stop the nolva when I begin the A-dex? Please help, I love breasts but on females only!

 

[pharmguy]

arimidex will certainly help! , don't need nolva AND arimidex

 

[trinidad]

High-Jacked, that is what happened to me except with a test/deca cycle. Ran nolva when nips got sensitive, ran it the rest of the cycle and through post but ended up with gyno a couple of months later. Make sure you "nip" this in the butt now! Just had gyno surgery 1 1/2 wks. ago.

 

[Laser0001]

High-Jacked, that is what happened to me except with a test/deca cycle. Ran nolva when nips got sensitive, ran it the rest of the cycle and through post but ended up with gyno a couple of months later. Make sure you "nip" this in the butt now! Just had gyno surgery 1 1/2 wks. ago.

Could it have been the deca?

 

[Laser0001]

I finished an 8 week test/eq cycle 8 weeks ago. I used Nolva throughout and continued up unitl now. I am currently tapering down using only 8-10mg ed. I am getting estrogen rebound, my nips are getting puffy and sensitive. Do I need to get some arimidex and run that to get E levels down? Will that solve my problem? How would I run it, and can I stop the nolva when I begin the A-dex? Please help, I love breasts but on females only!

Up your dose on the nolvadex until the arimidex gets there.

 

[Mike P.T.]

arimidex will certainly help! , don't need nolva AND arimidex

Actually both during this phase is good. Arimidex will help prevent extra estrogen in the system and nolvadex will help to prevent any negative effects that the remaining estrogen will have on the body, especially your titties.

 

[The Terminator]

Since you still have an abundance of circulating estrogen in your system nolvadex is a necessity at this point. You also need to start the arimidex to help prevent new estrogen formation...I would run the nolva until you are certain that circulating estrogen is back in an acceptable range...

 

[jubei]

Since you still have an abundance of circulating estrogen in your system nolvadex is a necessity at this point. You also need to start the arimidex to help prevent new estrogen formation...I would run the nolva until you are certain that circulating estrogen is back in an acceptable range...

Exactly!

 

[High-Jacked]

damn! That means I need more Nolva........ what I really need is some money and a bra!

How much a-dex should I take daily, and for how long?

 

[Juice Authority]

No votes for Femera? Hmm.

 

[The Terminator]

Wow! Wait a minute...I just realized you said you were 8 weeks post cycle...(the mention of tapering off messed my eyes lol)

Why are you using nolva this far out...Realistically your estrogen levels should have dissipated into the normal range by now...

What are you tapering off of anyway, nolva?
"I am currently tapering down using only 8-10mg ed." <---I assume you mean nolvadex?
I would probably opt for an aromatose inhibitor at this point (for getting control of it now), but this may not be a long term solution here...

 

[Juice Authority]

Wow! Wait a minute...I just realized you said you were 8 weeks post cycle...(the mention of tapering off messed my eyes lol)

Why are you using nolva this far out...Realistically your estrogen levels should have dissipated into the normal range by now...

What are you tapering off of anyway, nolva?
"I am currently tapering down using only 8-10mg ed." <---I assume you mean nolvadex?
I would probably opt for an aromatose inhibitor at this point (for getting control of it now), but this may not be a long term solution here...

Estrogen rebound does happen and Arimidex together Proviron is what I would suggest.

 

[chordz]

I think the fact that you have been on Nolva for 16 weeks may be causing your problem.

 

[gunner44]

How much gear were you on?

Dont think that being on Nolvadex gfor 16 weeks has anything to do with CAUSING the puffy and sore nips. The problem is that he is still dealing with elevated estrogen levels. It can take MONTHS for some guys to get back to normal levels.

Bro, you need to keep hitting the nolvadex at 20mg daily until this is resolved. You should also consider getting some Proviron as well. The arimidex might not really do you any good, cuz you are probably not converting test to estrogen anymore since you are probably still shut down.

There is the odd chance you have recovered your natural test production already, but I doubt it.

Get your ass to the doc and get some blood work ASAP !! Then we can help you sort this out.

 

[solidspine]

I have never tried Femra, but have had good results with both liquidex and novladex, and I have taken both at the same time,

good luck

 

[Juice Authority]

Get your ass to the doc and get some blood work ASAP !! Then we can help you sort this out.

Best advice yet.

 

[High-Jacked]

I took low dose of Nolva (10mg) throughout my cycle 500mg test/500mg Eq, post cycle I bumped it to 40mg for 2 weeks while running HCG, then droppped back down to 10mg and this is where I currently am. I am very prone to gyno, I got puffy nips going through puberty, my nips don't actually get any puffier then they already are (since they are always puffy) when I say I am getting estro rebound, but rather they feel slightly sensitive/tingly. ALmost like I accidently got some "icy-hot" cream on them, that type of feeling.

What would proviron do for me? Would it help in recovery to restore T levels, or just lower estrogen levels?

 

[Juice Authority]

What would proviron do for me? Would it help in recovery to restore T levels, or just lower estrogen levels?

Like I said above the best solution is Arimidex (we talked about this over the PM) and Proviron. Proviron will prevent estrogen rebound and not suppressive to hpta recovery. If you want to learn more about Proviron I suggest you read this thread over at FG...There are plenty of studies I posted that prove it's not suppressive at low dosages even though it's classified to be an AAS.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22688&highlight=Proviron

 

[gunner44]

I took low dose of Nolva (10mg) throughout my cycle 500mg test/500mg Eq, post cycle I bumped it to 40mg for 2 weeks while running HCG, then droppped back down to 10mg and this is where I currently am. I am very prone to gyno, I got puffy nips going through puberty, my nips don't actually get any puffier then they already are (since they are always puffy) when I say I am getting estro rebound, but rather they feel slightly sensitive/tingly. ALmost like I accidently got some "icy-hot" cream on them, that type of feeling.

What would proviron do for me? Would it help in recovery to restore T levels, or just lower estrogen levels?

Damn bro you are pretty brave for being gyno prone! Thank fucking god you were smart enough to run at least 10mg of Nolva during your cycle. Shit iam NOT gyno prone and I run 10mg!

Give us more details on how you ran the HCG?? Do you know that HCG can cause HUGE spikes in test levels? It is like taking another cycle, and without anything to PREVENT the formation of estrogen, it is no wonder YOU ARE STILL SWIMMING IN ESTROGEN !!

Follow the advise given...STAY ON THE NOLVA..get some liquidex run that at a low dose just to be safe.

ALSO- GET TO THE DOC! You got a bonafied excuse with the gyno issue , just BS him into doing your blood work. Tell him you had gyno as a kid and now it is acting up and you dont know why.

How old are you anyway?

 

[High-Jacked]

I cannot get proviron, so would the A-dex be sufficient in lowering my Estrogen levels to solve this problem? If so that is what I will do.

2 weeks after my last shot of test enanthate, I ran hcg at 500iu's ed for 14 days wiht 40 mg nolva, then I dropped down to 20 mg nolva for 2 weeks then down to 10mg (currently).

I am also taking 2g's Tribulus, and 2 g's Avena Sativa for recovery, could this be of any cause???????

 

[gunner44]

Bro, I am just gu3essing here, but YES , both Ttribulus and Aveni Sativa will both increase test/free test levels thus increasing estrogen conversion.

Bro, you need to get to a doc and get some blood work done. This is critical. You will be in a position to learn a LOT about how you are reacting to AAS. This is important!!!

Right now, you are still stimulating test production while LOWERING your anti-e's. NOT GOOD!

You are hyno prone, that is by your own admission. You should be EXTRWEELY AFRAID OF ESTROGEN BROTHER!@!!!!!

And for godes sake, DO NOT THROW IN A PROGERSTERONE LIKE TREN OR DECA!!! Unless you want fully functional titties.

Not trying to scare you, but you are one of the unfortunate few who MUJST CON TROLL YOUR FUCKING ESTROGEN LEVELS TO THE MAX ~!!!!!! or forget AAS bro!!!

Like I said, I play it safer than you and I am NOT gyno prone.

Good luck!

 

[C-Rock455]

I got a mild case of gyno from Tribex (tribulus and avena sativa) I too am very gyno prone and I would say this is almost definitely the cause. I never go gyno from test or other aas( except from deca it makes my nipples swell withing a week or two) but I Can't take tribex, go figure.

 

[High-Jacked]

The tribulus and avena could be aggrevating it I guess, F it then, those herbs aren't worth it for B cups.