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BigAndy69

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Needsize has been saying that I've never trained and never Juiced. He is basically saying that I'm a complete fraud.

The last time he saw me, 7months ago, I was in terrible shape and unable to train because of Sleep Apnea.

I'm in the mid 220's and I have abs.

Anyway, I've never posted pics because of security issues, but he has driven me to do it. I'm buying a digital camera today or tomorrow and will have pics available in the next 2 days.

I need you guys to come up with something for me to put in the pics so I can show authenticity.

Something like: "I like cookies" so I can hold a piece of paper up or something. I'll also have that days National Post.

I'll select a few to put up and I'll have some of my own.
 
whatever floats your boat bro, you've told myself as well as others that you have never done a cycle before. And if you have, going by your ripe old age of 20 years old, how old were you when you became this steroid guru?

BTW, I saw you early in the summer time when you drove your boy down, and you were still hooked on coke then
 
hold a fork or a spoon in your hand when taking the pic. some huge dude had his girl claiming he was 290 with semi low body fat, no one believed her. well then she said she would post a pic. nobody would believe her till someone told her to post the pic of him holding a fork in his hand, soon after the pic showed up with a fork in his hand no more questions were asked.
 
actually bro, photoshop away, I told you I had no more interest in this internet drama but you just cant drop it.

As for your honesty, If I felt it worth the effort I could dig up posts from a few months ago where you talked about exactly what gear you were running at the time, as well as other posts about "how you run your cycles"

You are just another person who feels the need to create an internet persona to make yourself feel good. If you really want to prove any pics you post are you, instead of photoshoping, come visit me and take pics with me, everyone knows me and what my physique looks like, you couldnt fake those
 
needsize said:
whatever floats your boat bro, you've told myself as well as others that you have never done a cycle before. And if you have, going by your ripe old age of 20 years old, how old were you when you became this steroid guru?

BTW, I saw you early in the summer time when you drove your boy down, and you were still hooked on coke then
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I'm 20 years old now huh? LOL I wish. You're thinking of BigAragorn who turned 21.

LOL, hooked on coke? I admitted to using some coke for a little while, experimented for the first time in a post on elite, it's no secret. I don't lie about my drug use. You have been on G for how long now? 3 years? Remember when you asked me (more like begged me) if I could get you Nubain and Percs? Hope you get off those drugs bro, and get to what's important, family.

I know you are trying to turn this into a flamefest so it gets deleted. So I'm ignoring your posts from now on.
 
needsize said:
actually bro, photoshop away, I told you I had no more interest in this internet drama but you just cant drop it.

As for your honesty, If I felt it worth the effort I could dig up posts from a few months ago where you talked about exactly what gear you were running at the time, as well as other posts about "how you run your cycles"

You are just another person who feels the need to create an internet persona to make yourself feel good. If you really want to prove any pics you post are you, instead of photoshoping, come visit me and take pics with me, everyone knows me and what my physique looks like, you couldnt fake those
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Explain to me how you photoshop a fork in your hand?

Come visit you, after you threatened me and my family...yeah...that's gonna happen. :rolleyes:

I'm trying to be serious here, anymore suggestions? From people other than Needsize.
 
G, nubain, and perks, for someone who never stops bragging about how smart he is, you seem to get dumber all the time. Anyone who knows me knows that I live the bodybuilding lifestyle, I dont drink, do drugs, I dont even remember the last time I was out. And I have the physique to prove it.

As for getting to the important stuff, I have a beautiful wife, nice house, kid on the way, so where drugs )other than gear) fits into that, I cant figure out...

Keep up the smear fest bro, you have nothing to gain by it, but its keeping me amused on a boring saturday
 
Andy I have known you for years and respect and appreicate your advice,

Simply ignore this guy, your above that grade school talk.
 
I threatened your family, I still have the pms you sent when you threatened my pregant wife...

Anyway, I'm out, you obviously feel that you have something really important to prove to those on the internet, so do what you feel you need to. I'm just glad you have something thats important in your life....
 
Some people like pop tarts.
 
just hold up a newspaper bro......take one photo with a close up (not to close) of the date and front page.....
 
solidspine said:
Andy I have known you for years and respect and appreicate your advice,

Simply ignore this guy, your above that grade school talk.
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Thanks bro, it means a lot coming from you.

I will answer all "claims" after I post my pics and I will have proved my point and can move on past this bullshit.
 
the funny thing is, that this whole thing started after you came on a post I had about getting ready for my show. You completely misread what I wrote, then used that to insult me. That turned into a flame fest, which I got sick so so I pm'd you so we could stop it. I then erased all my posts on the thread that were a part of the flaming as it was a waste of time, and shouldnt have been in the anabolic forum anyway.
 
Oh no another Elite Drama!!!

I really don't care what you look like Andy TBH i do care about your knowledge as IMHO AAS are both theory and experience where a combination is obtained by reading internet boards such as these.

Threats against families is out of order and TBH if needsize has PM'd you to make peace why you feel the need to ask all the members how to take your picture is beyond me.


Anyway Elite Dramas do assist on a boring Saturday night in.

Wrongun!
 
Wrongun said:
Oh no another Elite Drama!!!

I really don't care what you look like Andy TBH i do care about your knowledge as IMHO AAS are both theory and experience where a combination is obtained by reading internet boards such as these.

Threats against families is out of order and TBH if needsize has PM'd you to make peace why you feel the need to ask all the members how to take your picture is beyond me.


Anyway Elite Dramas do assist on a boring Saturday night in.

Wrongun!
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Wrongun, there is much more to it than you know. Nathan should fill you in, i beleive you are friends?

How would you feel if someone who is a vet claimed you are a complete fraud..anyway, he trashs me on other boards where he is a mod. Elite is unbiased in this case...should settle everything once and for all.

As for his "PM", it's bullshit, it's a reverse threat, blackmail, he tells me he has ALL my info and hasn't done anything about it so why should I intrude on his thread... In other words, keep posting on my threads and I will go after you.

Truth is, he knows very little about AS and lacks basic common sense. He says that you don't need that many carbs with insulin, said he used 35g of carbs for 20ius.

I simply said it is a dangerous practice and shouldn't be condoned, don't want anyone dying.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=262780

Post#12 by Needsize: "rsd01, as for needing lots of carbs, thats not really true. I've gone as high as 20iu of humalog, with only 35grams of dextrose"
 
my pm was not a reverse threat, what I was making clear is that we both know enough about the other to cause way too much trouble for each of us, so lets drop it. And as a show of good faith, I erased all my posts where i was slinging mud, where as you left yours up. I made it clear a while ago I wanted no more to do with this drama, and I have not posted on one of your threads since then. But then you came along and trashed my "advice" on my thread, where it wasnt advice at all, i was just stating what I had done. Which is also something I had checked with my family physician while I was in getting my bi-monthly blood tests. So you can argue with it all you want, I was acting on info that I got from my Dr, who I talk very openly about this stuff with.

You can also say I have little knowlege of AS all you want, all I have ever done is post about the cycles that I have run, what worked and didnt work, I have never claimed any knowlege beyond that....

I just cant understand why this internet thing is so important to you, why do you honestly care so much about what people online think of you? I tried to drop this bullshit this morning, and you just wont let it die
 
BigAndy69 said:


Okay I will hold a poptart with only one bite in it. How about the smores kind? :)
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oh man, i love those things in the morning, but they are loaded with carbs :( hmm how about a pita bread?
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Please knock it off guys,this does no one any good.This can be taken to e-mail.
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fine with me huck, thats what I've been saying since this morning.

Andy, post your pic, prove me wrong, and lets forget about this waste of board space
 
*gets popcorn out and keeps clicking refresh button*

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure I know what you guys are arguing about, but I am sure something can be worked out if you would just talk to each other calmly.

-sk
 
Paintball Deathmatch!

:)
 
We will settle this one and for all once the pics are posted.

-Holding a smores poptart with a bite taken out of it while flipping the bird
-Holding that days National Post

You deleted your posts because you said "I never trained or juiced"

When you found out I had balls to post my pics, you backed down.
 
I backed down this morning, many hours before you said anything about posting pics. I dont give a rats ass about if you prove it or not, I just dont care for for this drama.
 
You are what's wrong with the Canadian AS scene.

You may have bullied other people with your Status, but you picked the wrong person to bully. I love the way you make yourself look like a victim.
 
BigAndy69 said:


Wrongun, there is much more to it than you know. Nathan should fill you in, i beleive you are friends?

How would you feel if someone who is a vet claimed you are a complete fraud..anyway, he trashs me on other boards where he is a mod. Elite is unbiased in this case...should settle everything once and for all.

As for his "PM", it's bullshit, it's a reverse threat, blackmail, he tells me he has ALL my info and hasn't done anything about it so why should I intrude on his thread... In other words, keep posting on my threads and I will go after you.

Truth is, he knows very little about AS and lacks basic common sense. He says that you don't need that many carbs with insulin, said he used 35g of carbs for 20ius.

I simply said it is a dangerous practice and shouldn't be condoned, don't want anyone dying.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=262780

Post#12 by Needsize: "rsd01, as for needing lots of carbs, thats not really true. I've gone as high as 20iu of humalog, with only 35grams of dextrose"
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There probably is Bro and yes me and Nathan go back form our early days on Elite (although not spoke with him for sometime but yes a good Bro IMHO)

What i was trying to get across is that both you and Needsize have so much to offer all the boards it is a shame it has come to this. You have excellent knowledge IMHO and Needsize has excellent experience with results to prove (you may also as not disputing nor do i care Bro) but put you both together and you are major assets to any board relating to BB or AAS

You are major pissed and so is needsize. What i can see is that Needsize is making the effort to move on.

I look for your posts and on your last at losing weight after your illness i am truely proud and happy as would anyone who has been through illness like you have.

Mud slinging about rec drugs really do make me laugh as many on this board will have used / abused some sort of drug in their time IMHO and is not called for as we have all put our addictive nature to improving our bodies (and i would say looking at Needsize and the extent of your knowledge you are both addicts of BB)

Move on Bro's as you say families are important and you both have loving ones (which includes Elite members that respect you both)

Peace gentlemen time to move on IMHO

Wrongun!
 
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=246724

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=252893

here is just two threads that condtidict what bigAndy is saying. in the first one he said he is 270lbs, now he is claiming he lost 30 lbs and is sitting at 220 lean with abs? do the math. it doesnt ad up.

the bottom line is, i have met andy, so had Nicole, a mod from Steroidolody, rawlifter, gorrila boy. ALL these people can varify that andy HAS not worked out in years and HAS NEVER done a single cycle. he is a fat ass 20 year old kid who gives advice based only on what other people tell him. he hides behind his name on boards and thinks he is kind shit when in fact he is a drug addict and a loser. he is saying that needsize is a drug addict, when in the thread below he clearly states that "needsize lives the BB lifestyle. it only took me a few mins to find these few contridicting threads. if he continues to bullshit on here, i will take some time and find EVERYTHING he lied about and post it.

and this whole "i;ll post a pic" shit? i know who he;s gonna get to pose for it, his best friend who actualy is around 220 with abs and is a solid guy. so andy, dont kid yourself and pretend you;re this bas ass gangster. if shit went down, you;d be at your mommy;s nice home in the rich neighbourhood, hiding under your bed.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=234000&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
 
Well i tried so now with SK* got some popcorn out and keeps clicking refresh button LOL

Wrongun!
 
BTW, so no one thinks that alltraps is me, its actually "dissto", who has been a member of elite for since 2000, but lost his user name due to not logging in for 3 weeks. Andy used to come into his store several times a week so alltraps can certainly verfiy what I'm saying.

I did try and drop this andy but you just keep going
 
alltraps said:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=246724

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=252893

here is just two threads that condtidict what bigAndy is saying. in the first one he said he is 270lbs, now he is claiming he lost 30 lbs and is sitting at 220 lean with abs? do the math. it doesnt ad up.

the bottom line is, i have met andy, so had Nicole, a mod from Steroidolody, rawlifter, gorrila boy. ALL these people can varify that andy HAS not worked out in years and HAS NEVER done a single cycle. he is a fat ass 20 year old kid who gives advice based only on what other people tell him. he hides behind his name on boards and thinks he is kind shit when in fact he is a drug addict and a loser. he is saying that needsize is a drug addict, when in the thread below he clearly states that "needsize lives the BB lifestyle. it only took me a few mins to find these few contridicting threads. if he continues to bullshit on here, i will take some time and find EVERYTHING he lied about and post it.

and this whole "i;ll post a pic" shit? i know who he;s gonna get to pose for it, his best friend who actualy is around 220 with abs and is a solid guy. so andy, dont kid yourself and pretend you;re this bas ass gangster. if shit went down, you;d be at your mommy;s nice home in the rich neighbourhood, hiding under your bed.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=234000&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
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LOL you are a stupid fuck.

June 30th, I posted I was at 270lbs.

July 27th, I posted I was at 255lbs

Today I posted That I lost about 30lbs in 2.5 weeks as a result of the sleep apnea therapy and I listed my weight as being in the mid 220's.

Nice try, a guy with 3 posts :rolleyes:

Gorilla Boy is going to take the pics...he's helping me find a digital camera.

The friend you are referring to is BigAragorn and he has distinctive tattoes, He's also 6'1 where I am listed at 5'8.
 
needsize said:
BTW, so no one thinks that alltraps is me, its actually "dissto", who has been a member of elite for since 2000, but lost his user name due to not logging in for 3 weeks. Andy used to come into his store several times a week so alltraps can certainly verfiy what I'm saying.

I did try and drop this andy but you just keep going
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So much for calling a truce!
 
needsize said:


fine with me huck, thats what I've been saying since this morning.

Andy, post your pic, prove me wrong, and lets forget about this waste of board space
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Don't start with this BS.

I got the same dumbass treatment a while back and posted pics. However, looking back I should have just let it go.

He doesn't need to post his pic if he doesn't want to. End of story.

And the size of your muscles does not equate to anything.

If you think I or anybody else cares about your size, you have it backwards.

This board is simply about information. If you want to do the "I'm bigger than you routine so I know more", go to another board b/c I'm sick of it.

Fonz
 
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