Ittchy nips

[FRC21]

week 4 of:
600 mg p/w of Test C
100 mg p/w of Deca
10 mg p/day of aromasin
2 pumps AIFM

I have never had this problem before, but they are ittching? Should I up the AIFM or the aromasin, or maybe switch to something else? I can get any anit-e, so no problems there. Just need some advice on what to do.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

upping the AI, either aromasin or AIFM should help, but you may be overly sensitive to nandrolone.

adding a dopaminergic, bromocriptine or cabergoline will also help.

have you used nandrolone before?

 

[FRC21]

Yes, I have used deca in 4 previous cycles. In most cases I ran deca at 300mg per week. I did switch brands of deca.

What should I add? Thanks for quick response.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

try increasing the AI first, either the aromasin to 20mg or AIFM to 4 pumps or you could bring aromasin to 15mg and AIFM to 3 pumps.

the fact that you have used higher doses of nandrolone does not necessarily mean that this lower dose is not now causing problems (its the repeated use of progestins and age that seems highly linked to issues), however that is a pretty low dose.

if increasing the AI does not stop itchyness, would add bromocriptine (parlodel) or cabergoline (dostinex)-- selegiline is also an option as is wellbutrin (zyban).

you can also try increasing the AI again, and even if the issue is prolactin or progestenic it may eliminate (may not will) it (but it also may cause issues because that may drive estrogen too low).

you can also try direct application of AIFM to the nipples, 1/4-1/2 pump per affected nipple. this seems to help a lot in many cases.

its a complicated balancing act at times, because you dont necessarily know "who" is causing the problem.

as a note- generally reccomend that everyone who cycles keep a couple items on hand.

two AI's (AIFM or aromasin for general use- though as you have you can use both- AND letro- its the strongest and sometimes you need that level of suppression, dont generally reccomend it for consistent use, but some people need high level suppression- so dont reccomend against it either)- also if you do use letro (or even sickly arimidex) its highly reccomended that you taper it with aromasin or AIFM to avoid rebound.

clomid and nolva (though generally only reccomend clomid for PCT- no frontload- and reccomend against nolva if any progestin is involved or was recently used)

at least one dopaminergic- like selegiline for general use, though a lot of people like bromocriptine (there a lot of love and hate it) or cabergoline (wellbutrin is not commonly used but it is a dopaminergic)

 

[FRC21]

Thank you very much for the help. I'm going to take your advise asap and up the AI's. I will order the dostinex tomorrow.

What should the dosage be with the dostinex?

 

[FRC21]

Also, should I drop the deca? It would not be a problem, because I could stay on the test.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

.5mg e3d, though you can run .5mg eod at first to get blood levels up.

give the direct app a shot, there is definitely a local effect. though as with all areas be sure to exfoliate

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Also, should I drop the deca? It would not be a problem, because I could stay on the test.

probably.

though just upping the AI, may be sufficient. its really a personal choice, some people use nandrolone for very specific reasons (usually joint issues).

what brand are you using? perhaps that may be a factor (ie not what is claimed, impure, etc... its uncommon with nandrolone as the raw materials are cheap but it can happen).

 

[FRC21]

probably.

though just upping the AI, may be sufficient. its really a personal choice, some people use nandrolone for very specific reasons (usually joint issues).

what brand are you using? perhaps that may be a factor (ie not what is claimed, impure, etc... its uncommon with nandrolone as the raw materials are cheap but it can happen).

Cypher labs is the brand. I was told by my source its a very good brand. I also have provirion if needed.