IT jobs...are the gonna last for ever?

[ProtienFiend]

Mathematicians are more desirable than CS majors I have heard.

I agree with whoever said get a BS in CS and do internships.

Wheres good to intern? IBM?

I have weekly opportunities to intern there...

 

[EnderJE]

First of all, the arrogance and greed of IT folks these days (and in the past) is freakin' annoying.
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I tell IT folks -- you're an EXPENSE to the company. The purpose of expenses is to CUT THEM.

How is this different from other departments? HR can be outsourced. Product Forecasting / Replenishment can be outsouced. Transportation Planning can be outsourced. Marketing can be outsourced. The physical picking / packing / shipping of product can be given to a third party logistics provider.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think that everyone can be outsourced.

 

[mordy]

How is this different from other departments? HR can be outsourced. Product Forecasting / Replenishment can be outsouced. Transportation Planning can be outsourced. Marketing can be outsourced. The physical picking / packing / shipping of product can be given to a third party logistics provider.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think that everyone can be outsourced.

Then you don't have a company.

 

[Lumberg]

Wheres good to intern? IBM?

I have weekly opportunities to intern there...

Definitely.

Basically any of the big IT companies and also It departments in very well known companies like say an insurance company or General Motors.

 

[almost-pro]

open shortest path first and border gateway protocols, or something to that effect. i agree with someone earlier in this post who said that your work history and experience determine pay in the IT field. Its not like it use to be. Certs don't mean shit anymore and u gotta work your way up slowly.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Sorry man nothing lasts forever except diseased beaver! It's been here since the dawn of man and will continue to haunt our love muscles untill the end of time!

 

[B0ARDIN087]

I'm not usually a fan of outsourcing. But in this case, we have an office in the philippines already, and we do our data processing there. Just felt natural to have the DB co-located there and get an DB admin on site there.

hehe when i graduate from case western wanna hire me in all seriousness im looking to go there next year and do thier accellerated masters in IT and management. sound like a good plan or no? lemme know

 

[Lestat]

Everyone except sales is overhead.

I'm sorry man, but I can't really respect any of your opinions on this thread if that is truly what you believe.

We have a LOT more non-overhead personel in my company then just sales. Who do you think is DESIGNING, DEVELOPING, and TESTING our products?

 

[Jay Sean Juggy D]

Right, but the product can't "move" itself , can it?!!!!!!

 

[Razorguns]

>Who do you think is DESIGNING, DEVELOPING, and TESTING our products?

They all fit into the category of "production". All elements of production can be replaced, modified, tinkered, etc.

However, the folks who actually TRANSFORM that product into cold hard CASH (profit) are the most important parts of the organization.

What's the purpose of a great product, if it's just sitting there on a shelf in a warehouse. It's all the #1 reason why work-at-home schemes fail. People buy into this "let me paint great pictures at home, and create great widgets, and SOMEHOW i'll make millions". Then they paint the pictures, and forget the big part. How they're going to get money now. Welcome to the world of sales, marketing, distribution and management. The parts of the company that can make or break it. You can't outsource that shit to habib.

I try to teach this phiosophy to bands all the time to no avail. They spend all their time "creating the greatest songs in the world". Then they get pissed cuz they're not signed and playing in front of millions. I almost have to teach them a 40 hour course on how the rest of the "music world" works.