Is this so wrong of me?

[the_clockwork]

I make enough money to one day support a family on one income (and will more than likely make more than my wife) but I REFUSE to date a woman without a job. If we get married I will expect her to work. When we have children I expect her to stay home and raise the child for at least a year or two.

Some women went ballastic on me tonight b/c I said that. They thought I was equal and should be a stay at home dad while she worked no matter the amount of money

 

[Cal_21]

Racist.

 

[binö]

Racist.

homophob!

 

[myway]

Just find a woman who wants thesame things. There is someone for everyone.... no matter how nutty.

 

[the_clockwork]

I hear you are nutty

 

[Cal_21]

homophob!

Sexist

 

[binö]

Sexist

marxist!

 

[Frisky]

there was this one chick ... in band camp... I'll introducer her to you

 

[Cal_21]

marxist!

Xenophobe!

 

[myway]

I hear you are nutty

Me? Oh........ prolly so. I think I'm a good time. That's what matters to me. Actually, most people I meet adore me. So, I'm not crazy or it's in style. I will start asking around and let you know how it works out for me.

 

[-SD-]

Sounds very practical and lol @ the hags that went ballistic on you for such logical thinking. If you make nice cheddar and your wife doesnt guess who gets to stay home with the kids. Hint, it starts with "W" and ends with "oman".

 

[binö]

i don't care what anybody says, staying home would be cake compared to the work grind

 

[Frisky]

Sounds very practical and lol @ the hags that went ballistic on you for such logical thinking. If you make nice cheddar and your wife doesnt guess who gets to stay home with the kids. Hint, it starts with "W" and ends with "oman".

you calling us women hags?


wtf?

LOL

I agree with him... fucktard

 

[myway]

i don't care what anybody says, staying home would be cake compared to the work grind

Maybe some woman don't want easy. I have been off work for a couple of weeks because i am 36 weeks pregnant. I HATE being at home. I would love to spend a lot of time with my child but NEVER go to work??!!?!??! I would go insane. That's how I feel. Just find someone who feels the same as you about the issue. There is no right or wrong. A lot of women would LOVE to stay at home. Just find one of those girls.
Personally, I wouldn't be able to chain myself to the house.

 

[binö]

Maybe some woman don't want easy. I have been off work for a couple of weeks because i am 36 weeks pregnant. I HATE being at home. I would love to spend a lot of time with my child but NEVER go to work??!!?!??! I would go insane. That's how I feel. Just find someone who feels the same as you about the issue. There is no right or wrong. A lot of women would LOVE to stay at home. Just find one of those girls.
Personally, I wouldn't be able to chain myself to the house.

for sure
i'd never make clockwork's ultimatium, i wouldn't want to be stuck at home and i wouldn't expect my bride to be either

 

[Lestat]

i'd love to marry a sugar mama

 

[Smurfy]

I make enough money to one day support a family on one income (and will more than likely make more than my wife) but I REFUSE to date a woman without a job. If we get married I will expect her to work. When we have children I expect her to stay home and raise the child for at least a year or two.

Some women went ballastic on me tonight b/c I said that. They thought I was equal and should be a stay at home dad while she worked no matter the amount of money

no there's nothing wrong with your idea of how things should be. now, just know that things dont always work out the way you plan, but you wanting the mother of your children to stay home with them for the first few years is certainly not unreasonable in the slightest. I would have loved to be able to do that.

I thought you were a drug counselor? You make THAT much money? Or do you live in an area where the cost of living is such that a family can live comfortably on 50,000?

 

[FISHTALES]

no there's nothing wrong with your idea of how things should be. now, just know that things dont always work out the way you plan, but you wanting the mother of your children to stay home with them for the first few years is certainly not unreasonable in the slightest. I would have loved to be able to do that.

I thought you were a drug counselor? You make THAT much money? Or do you live in an area where the cost of living is such that a family can live comfortably on 50,000?

 

[Smurfy]

mornin!!!

 

[silverstar1025]

Not all women want to stay at home and not have any adult interaction or feel like they are contributing to the family. You just need to find a woman that is all for staying at home and not doing anything!

 

[jack sparrow]

Not all women want to stay at home and not have any adult interaction or feel like they are contributing to the family. You just need to find a woman that is all for staying at home and not doing anything!

That sounds difficult...where on earth would he find one of these?

 

[Sub-Zero]

I make enough money to one day support a family on one income (and will more than likely make more than my wife) but I REFUSE to date a woman without a job. If we get married I will expect her to work. When we have children I expect her to stay home and raise the child for at least a year or two.

Some women went ballastic on me tonight b/c I said that. They thought I was equal and should be a stay at home dad while she worked no matter the amount of money

most women are stupid and irrational about that kind of stuff.., especially the fat annoying business professional breed common in our society today (kind of stuff=everything)

 

[musclemom]

I don't think you're unreasonable, but there are ways to say it that can SOUND unreasonable. Your other problem, and this is just my opinion, is you're dealing with an inherent problem in wiring: If you have a woman who has a career and enjoys that career, she may not be wired to be a stay at home mom. Birthing does not necessarily trigger all these massive maternal hormones that make you want to coo, shop for bibs and sing along to Barney.

I've done both, I did the stay at home mom routine, and the working mom routine. I can honestly say that I was the absolute MOST depressed I've ever been in my life staying at home with the kid. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my son, but not everyone is wired to be around children 24/7. I am not one of them and I am not unusual.

Being around children constantly, particularly from the age of 2 to school age, is absolute one of the most psychologically and emotionally demanding things I've ever done. And it has NOTHING to do with the lack of adult interaction, because I work from home now and have done so every day for the past 4+ years. Hell, I've gone weeks without seeing another human face to face with the exception of my husband when I've been snowed under work wise.

So, Clockwork, if you are dating degreed, professional women you are going to run into a shitload of resistance because you are dating women who probably know they are not wired to be stay at home moms even if they aren't aware of it.

It's really not so strange, throughout history women of many cultures have gone out and hunted and gone to war alongside their men. This idea of big strong man catches fish/fragile delicate woman cooks it, isn't necessarily what we've evolved from but nobody wants to believe that. The archeological evidence says otherwise.

 

[crew9]

I bet half those girls change their minds once they're holding their child.

 

[cindylou]

I think its great that's what you want. Too many kids dont have parents who are willing to make the lifestyle change it takes to have a stay at home parent. Its expensive.

Just find a woman who agrees, who is the homemaker type.

 

[binö]

I thought you were a drug counselor? You make THAT much money? Or do you live in an area where the cost of living is such that a family can live comfortably on 50,000?

only on EF it, land of the zillionaires.
the drug counselors i know are making teacher money

 

[-SD-]

you calling us women hags?


wtf?

LOL

I agree with him... fucktard

I know its hard but read all of his original post, he said some women went ballistic on him.

 

[-SD-]

Not all women want to stay at home and not have any adult interaction or feel like they are contributing to the family. You just need to find a woman that is all for staying at home and not doing anything!

spoken like a true childless woman. I thought being a parent was the most important job in the world?

 

[musclemom]

spoken like a true childless woman. I thought being a parent was the most important job in the world?

It is, which is why, as a parent, you owe it to your kids to be the best person you possibly CAN be.

If that means you're a stay at home mom/dad, and you're connected/involved and ON 24/7 and totally into it, that's wonderful, and you are a blessed person. But if being a stay at home parent sinks you into a depression and you spend most of the day sleeping or watching television what good is that for anyone? If you're better getting out of the house for a few hours and then when you get home you're able to be cheerfully involved then I don't see anything wrong with that. Amount of time spent is important, but I don't see it as being more important than the quality of the time.

 

[Frisky]

spoken like a true childless woman. I thought being a parent was the most important job in the world?

LOL

Have you ever had the opportunity to just stay home and sit around and do house work and cook? Do you have any idea? Sure some women are ok with it but its not good for all. I for one would go crazy just staying home... that no way at all takes away from the fact that I love my kids. I personally just prefer to contribute to providing for them and not be the couch mom. I go crazy when I'm confined to my home even for one day.

 

[cindylou]

LOL

Have you ever had the opportunity to just stay home and sit around and do house work and cook? Do you have any idea? Sure some women are ok with it but its not good for all. I for one would go crazy just staying home... that no way at all takes away from the fact that I love my kids. I personally just prefer to contribute to providing for them and not be the couch mom. I go crazy when I'm confined to my home even for one day.

See, I really think that I could do the stay at home mom thing, and really enjoy it.

However, I dont want to be on a budget either. It would be a tough decision that I guess I'll have to make because I really like my job. It probably would not be here for me if I took a couple years off, especially if I took 4 to 5 years off to raise them before they were in school full time.

 

[Smurfy]

funny but isnt it women who dont work who usually get bad mouthed for being gold diggers and moochers? so it's a double edge sword apparently

if you work and make $ and contribute to the household finances = you're materialistic and dont care about your children

if you stay at home, dont work, but care for the chidlren and household = you're a lazy, money hungry moocher

interesting!

 

[cindylou]

funny but isnt it women who dont work who usually get bad mouthed for being gold diggers and moochers? so it's a double edge sword apparently

if you work and make $ and contribute to the household finances = you're materialistic and dont care about your children

if you stay at home, dont work, but care for the chidlren and household = you're a lazy, money hungry moocher

interesting!

You just cant win. And some people claim that feminism is the downfall of the family unit, but women who look for a man to support them are gold diggers, Men just dont know what they want I think! lol!

They want a career woman, but expect her to just drop her job and then when the children go back to school, just pick up right where she left off. Most of the time, its not where you left off but back at the bottom. Only now you are an aging mother who needs flex time, no one wants you then.

I think its a tough decision. I dont know what I'll do.

 

[the_clockwork]

no there's nothing wrong with your idea of how things should be. now, just know that things dont always work out the way you plan, but you wanting the mother of your children to stay home with them for the first few years is certainly not unreasonable in the slightest. I would have loved to be able to do that.

I thought you were a drug counselor? You make THAT much money? Or do you live in an area where the cost of living is such that a family can live comfortably on 50,000?

I don't specialize in drug counseling but that is my background. I am a licensed therapist. I own part of the private practice so I make way more money than I did working for the state. I live in kansas too so cost of living is extremely low.

 

[all the whey]

1. If you think they went ballistic, then wait and see how much and how often they go ballistic after you are married.

2. They are delusional or lying. Most would quit work and never go back if you are making jack.

3. Suggest you staying home after you are married and you will be the biggest laziest muthafocker in the world.

4. If you are making serious money. Odds, are they are trying to get knocked up by you now. They are trying to throw you off with the working women bullshit.

5. Don't get married.

6. Don't let some bitch move into your house.

7. Wear YOUR OWN condoms everytime.

 

[nefertiti]

spoken like a true childless woman. I thought being a parent was the most important job in the world?

silverstar has a child.

 

[musclemom]

You just cant win. And some people claim that feminism is the downfall of the family unit, but women who look for a man to support them are gold diggers, Men just dont know what they want I think! lol!

They want a career woman, but expect her to just drop her job and then when the children go back to school, just pick up right where she left off. Most of the time, its not where you left off but back at the bottom. Only now you are an aging mother who needs flex time, no one wants you then.

I think its a tough decision. I dont know what I'll do.

That's just it. They either don't want you because you can't put in the overtime/travel time

OR

You're overqualified for the jobs that do have the hours that would work for you

OR

You get the stink eye because you've taken off from the work force for XYZ years because of your children and they expect that just as you get trained in the position, get knocked up and quit working again.

 

[silverstar1025]

spoken like a true childless woman. I thought being a parent was the most important job in the world?

Sweetie I am not childless! I have two kids and don't think I am a bad mother for NOT being a stay at home mom! My kids are not any worst off by not having me watch them. Thankfully though my kids are watched by their grandmother and not daycare.

 

[Smurfy]

I don't specialize in drug counseling but that is my background. I am a licensed therapist. I own part of the private practice so I make way more money than I did working for the state. I live in kansas too so cost of living is extremely low.

oh that's awesome I didnt know you were a business owner.
do you guys deal with insurance at all?
i work for a Behavioral Health managed Care company.

 

[-SD-]

Sweetie I am not childless! I have two kids and don't think I am a bad mother for NOT being a stay at home mom! My kids are not any worst off by not having me watch them. Thankfully though my kids are watched by their grandmother and not daycare.

Not every situation is the best, make due with what you have i suppose. sorry about your situation.

 

[Phaded]

my chick loves working.. if she didn't work it'd suck cause we'd see too much of eachother..

so each day when she gets home i'm like a little lost kid who found his home.. and i'm sure she's the same...

 

[silverstar1025]

Not every situation is the best, make due with what you have i suppose. sorry about your situation.

No need to be sorry! This works for me! I get off work in time to pick up my oldest from school and still have plenty of time with them in the evenings. I don't mind working and know my kids are in good hands when they are with grandma!

 

[the_clockwork]

oh that's awesome I didnt know you were a business owner.
do you guys deal with insurance at all?
i work for a Behavioral Health managed Care company.

well I'm not really 50% owner.. but partial owner.. I am slowly working into my own practice.

Insurance is unavoidable in this field.. We deal with some people that don't have it tho and some that don't cover it

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I make enough money to one day support a family on one income (and will more than likely make more than my wife) but I REFUSE to date a woman without a job. If we get married I will expect her to work. When we have children I expect her to stay home and raise the child for at least a year or two.

Some women went ballastic on me tonight b/c I said that. They thought I was equal and should be a stay at home dad while she worked no matter the amount of money

You were talking to feminists.

Might as well delete this thread; there's nothing wrong with you.

 

[Sub-Zero]

funny but isnt it women who dont work who usually get bad mouthed for being gold diggers and moochers? so it's a double edge sword apparently

if you work and make $ and contribute to the household finances = you're materialistic and dont care about your children

if you stay at home, dont work, but care for the chidlren and household = you're a lazy, money hungry moocher

interesting!

i agree. women suck period

 

[Kano]

Clockwork what if you meet a women who makes a shit load more then you do. Why cant you stay home with the kids instead?

 

[GoldenDelicious]

family choices are made with the interests of every family member in mind, and your tone makes it sound like youre ignoring the wishes of your partner. sounds like these chicks got upset at your tone (which smacks of chauvanism, though not neccessarily chavianistic in fact) rather than your ideas.

anyway youre a good looking guy with lots of choice - even if you arent serious, the thing to do is to just laugh in their faces, proclaim that women belong in the kitchen, and while theyre going bananas at you, tell them that because of your looks/job etc, youre confident youll find a woman that will do exactly what you want, so they can nicely STFU and stop their squawking. a nice follow up to that discussion is the good ol "Q: why do women take so long to come? A: who cares" then you laugh like a disney villain