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Is this "good" wrestling?

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Theres a six man tag team with lesnar, big show, angle and some one legged dude...Is this supposed to be good? I think its so fucking stupid, or am I just not watching a good match?
 
I hate the whole 6-man tag bullshit... They used to actually put meaningful matches on TV, but now without any competition the WWE just puts filler garbage on their braodcasts. God.. I miss the mid 90's...

The whole Zach Gowen one leg thing is an attempt to cash in on his disablity. I don't blame the kid for trying and he is pretty damn good, but I would hate to be a wrestler who has to job for the kid. I mean... who would want to lose to a one legged wrestler? Your career is finished once you job to an amputee!
 
Meaningful?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis said:
Meaningful?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

If you are not a wrestling fan... don't comment... you only make yourself sound stupid. Andre Vs Hulk.. WMIII... That was meaningful. Bret Hart getting screwed in Montreal... that was meaningful... I could go on. Mankind vs Undertaker in Hell in Cell... THAT WAS FUCKING MEANINGFUL!

Wrestling is theater... real theater. The endings are scripted and there is definitely an art to the craft. Often people dismiss wrestling because it is "fake"... whatever that is supposed to mean. Only an idiot would argue that point. Everyone knows it is scripted, but the ability to tell a story in the ring, cut a promo and create memorable moments is why true fans watch. Wrestling takes me to a place in my mind when I was 12 years old and not a care in the world... and for those two hours I enjoy myself and bask in its glorious lunacy.

No one would ever watch "Friends" and say... "damn... that was fake, I bet they aren't really even friends." I will say this... wrestling is more real than "Friends"... I have never seen Ross smash a chair off Joey's head in the Central Perk... or Rachel take a fall through a table.

People who bash wrestling only show their true fear of feeling intellectually inadequate... "I would never watch wrestling... that's for stupid people!" I am confident in my intellectual well being and I can proudly state "I WATCH WRESTLING AND I AM PROUD OF IT!"

Carry On...
 
The_Eviscerator said:


If you are not a wrestling fan... don't comment... you only make yourself sound stupid. Andre Vs Hulk.. WMIII... That was meaningful. Bret Hart getting screwed in Montreal... that was meaningful... I could go on. Mankind vs Undertaker in Hell in Cell... THAT WAS FUCKING MEANINGFUL!

Wrestling is theater... real theater. The endings are scripted and there is definitely an art to the craft. Often people dismiss wrestling because it is "fake"... whatever that is supposed to mean. Only an idiot would argue that point. Everyone knows it is scripted, but the ability to tell a story in the ring, cut a promo and create memorable moments is why true fans watch. Wrestling takes me to a place in my mind when I was 12 years old and not a care in the world... and for those two hours I enjoy myself and bask in its glorious lunacy.

No one would ever watch "Friends" and say... "damn... that was fake, I bet they aren't really even friends." I will say this... wrestling is more real than "Friends"... I have never seen Ross smash a chair off Joey's head in the Central Perk... or Rachel take a fall through a table.

People who bash wrestling only show their true fear of feeling intellectually inadequate... "I would never watch wrestling... that's for stupid people!" I am confident in my intellectual well being and I can proudly state "I WATCH WRESTLING AND I AM PROUD OF IT!"

Carry On...

Looks like you've been waiting to let this out.

:D :D
 
I'm sure I sound quite stupid from pointing out how "meaningful" staged matches appealing to barking audiences are.
 
jackangel said:


Looks like you've been waiting to let this out.

:D :D

I get so sick and tired when people bash wrestling... I used to hide the fact that I watched it... Now I don't give a fuck.

The worst is the "fake" argument... People don't realize how stupid they sound when they mention that aspect. As if the fans actually think it is real... have they ever heard of verisimilitude? Obviously not.
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis said:
I'm sure I sound quite stupid from pointing out how "meaningful" staged matches appealing to barking audiences are.

Have you ever gone to the theater? Were you dissapointed because Willy Loman really didn't throw himself in front of a car to commit suicide in "Death of a Salesman"? It is merely theater. If you don't like it... don't watch.
 
GOD BLESS AND KARMA FOR YOU EVISCERATOR. I hate the prase "wrestling is fake." I have had 4 concussions, plus I have to constantly deal with nagging knee, shoulder, and back problems, all due to wrestling. You people wanna know what a wrestling ring is? its strips of either plywood or 2x6's placed on top of 14 steel beams. Usually there is no more than 1/2 - 3/4" of padding on top of the wood. 9 times out of 10 the rope is actually steel cable. I am not complaining in the slightest, just stating how stupid it is for people to use the word "fake". Some baseball and basketball players dont get hurt as much. There is no off season, and even as an independant wrestler, you can be on the road 125-200 days of the year.

Congrats to Zach Gowen. I cant say that enough. I met him up in Michigan a couple of times as we were on shows together. He works hard, and is a better wrestler than a lot of guys with 2 legs. But in all honesty, what would happen to a Matt Hardy or a Jamie Knoble if they were to lose to him. Talk about your career being over.

Oh, and anarchist, I disagree with CZW being good wrestling. Most of it (YES, I said most) is just your run of the mill Hack n' Whack hardcore wrestling. Theres nothing meaningful about goreing yourself on barbed wire and light tubes, nor is there anything athletic about it. Later ECW, Ring of Honor, ECWA, stuff like this is good wrestling.

www.nawf.com
www.mspwrestling.com
 
I was totally let down that he didn't really die. Same with Javier in "Les Miserables".

Too good to drown for real, eh? Well, fuck him, then!
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis said:
I was totally let down that he didn't really die. Same with Javier in "Les Miserables".

Too good to drown for real, eh? Well, fuck him, then!

You would be a good CZW fan... they really light people on fire and people really get hit in the head and laid open with two by fours... very realistic and soon someone will die in the ring.


:D
 
i like hardcore wrestling.

shit, i just like watching ppl get hurt. skateboarding, wrestling, figting, i dont care.

ECW was the best wrestling fed ever. ever. followed by FMW.
 
NAWFkappy said:
GOD BLESS AND KARMA FOR YOU EVISCERATOR. I hate the prase "wrestling is fake." I have had 4 concussions, plus I have to constantly deal with nagging knee, shoulder, and back problems, all due to wrestling. You people wanna know what a wrestling ring is? its strips of either plywood or 2x6's placed on top of 14 steel beams. Usually there is no more than 1/2 - 3/4" of padding on top of the wood. 9 times out of 10 the rope is actually steel cable. I am not complaining in the slightest, just stating how stupid it is for people to use the word "fake". Some baseball and basketball players dont get hurt as much. There is no off season, and even as an independant wrestler, you can be on the road 125-200 days of the year.


I have total respect for you guys.... it is brutal and many people have no idea how difficult it is to tell a story in that ring.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


I get so sick and tired when people bash wrestling... I used to hide the fact that I watched it... Now I don't give a fuck.



Wrestling is the male version of the mid day soap opera for women. Its trash.

'Professional' wrestling glorifies the most primitive, reprehensible human emotions of anger, greed, jealousy, hate and revenge.

Im not perfect. But theres a time and a place. The WWF, WWE and the majority of the theatrical professional wrestling leagues make their money by serving up manifested depravity 24/7.

If people really watched it primarily for the self proclaimed heroic athleticism of its participants, why dont they tune in instead to real wrestling where the contestants arn't actors, the matches arn't staged and the motivation to compete results from a genuine passion of the sport?

Because they like the filth. Human nature.
 
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NAWFkappy said:
GOD BLESS AND KARMA FOR YOU EVISCERATOR. I hate the prase "wrestling is fake." I have had 4 concussions, plus I have to constantly deal with nagging knee, shoulder, and back problems, all due to wrestling. You people wanna know what a wrestling ring is? its strips of either plywood or 2x6's placed on top of 14 steel beams. Usually there is no more than 1/2 - 3/4" of padding on top of the wood. 9 times out of 10 the rope is actually steel cable. I am not complaining in the slightest, just stating how stupid it is for people to use the word "fake". Some baseball and basketball players dont get hurt as much. There is no off season, and even as an independant wrestler, you can be on the road 125-200 days of the year.

Congrats to Zach Gowen. I cant say that enough. I met him up in Michigan a couple of times as we were on shows together. He works hard, and is a better wrestler than a lot of guys with 2 legs. But in all honesty, what would happen to a Matt Hardy or a Jamie Knoble if they were to lose to him. Talk about your career being over.

Oh, and anarchist, I disagree with CZW being good wrestling. Most of it (YES, I said most) is just your run of the mill Hack n' Whack hardcore wrestling. Theres nothing meaningful about goreing yourself on barbed wire and light tubes, nor is there anything athletic about it. Later ECW, Ring of Honor, ECWA, stuff like this is good wrestling.

www.nawf.com
www.mspwrestling.com

Whine a bit, pussy.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


You would be a good CZW fan... they really light people on fire and people really get hit in the head and laid open with two by fours... very realistic and soon someone will die in the ring.


:D

No.
 
buddy28 said:



Wrestling is the male version of the mid day soap opera for women. Its trash.

'Professional' wrestling glorifies the most primitive, reprehensible human emotions of anger, greed, jealousy, hate and revenge.

Im not perfect. But theres a time and a place. The WWF, WWE and the majority of the theatrical professional wrestling leagues make their money by serving up manifested depravity 24/7.

If people really watched it primarily for the self proclaimed heroic athleticism of its participants, why dont they tune in instead to real wrestling where the contestants arn't actors, the matches arn't staged and the motivation to compete results from a genuine passion of the sport?

Because they like the filth. Human nature.

Darn tootin'.
 
buddy28 said:



Wrestling is the male version of the mid day soap opera for women. Its trash.

'Professional' wrestling glorifies the most primitive, reprehensible human emotions of anger, greed, jealousy, hate and revenge.

Im not perfect. But theres a time and a place. The WWF, WWE and the majority of the theatrical professional wrestling leagues make their money by serving up manifested depravity 24/7.

If people really watched it primarily for the self proclaimed heroic athleticism of its participants, why dont they tune in instead to real wrestling where the contestants arn't actors, the matches arn't staged and the motivation to compete results from a genuine passion of the sport?

Because they like the filth. Human nature.

You are entitled to your opinion... but I think you are taking it all too seriously... Every drama on television has "anger, greed, jealousy, hate and revenge.." so I assume you don't watch any type of drama whatsoever.

I do agree that the WWE focuses too much on the depravity angles. Especially when they are marketing this product towards a younger audience. I watch for wrestlers like Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, RVD, Billy Kidman, Ultimo Dragon, Chris Benoit etc... guys who can perform in the ring and always bring something fantastic to the ring.

Unfortunately, Wrestling... like society has become increasingly depraved... I don't think McMahon realizes how many people he turns off to his product with the crude angles he produces.

To each their own... All you have to do is change the channel.;)
 
Anyone know the name of the Japanese wrestling league that has a ring with a big box in the middle that they fill with tacks, glass, and other sharp objects. I think Terry Funk was their champion at some point.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Anyone know the name of the Japanese wrestling league that has a ring with a big box in the middle that they fill with tacks, glass, and other sharp objects. I think Terry Funk was their champion at some point.

Not really sure... there are a few federations over there... Wrestling and MMA are extremely popular in Japan...

Terry Funk is still going stron on the indy scene... that old bastard is nuts:
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Maybe it was FMW......or are you talking about IWA, which did that big ass hardcore tourney that Foley was a part of?

that was IWA.

i like depravity as well. someone needs to get the fucking cob out.

moterfucker! sorry if wrestling isnt genteel enough!
 
Fondle my balls.

Better yet, lick your thumb, then glide it along the head of my cock repetitively.

Good times.

The more heavily you consider what I am typing, the more easily you are manipulated.
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis said:
Fondle my balls.

Better yet, lick your thumb, then glide it along the head of my cock repetitively.

Good times.

The more heavily you consider what I am typing, the more easily you are manipulated.

Why such hostile feelings towards wrestling? I have a feeling you were beaten repeatedly by this guy as a child... thus manifesting itself in your hatred of professional wrestling:

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Imakarum_Mirabilis said:
The more heavily you consider what I am typing, the more easily you are manipulated.

Translation for wrestling fans: Me make fun. I no care.
 
Imakarum_Mirabilis is a bored individual who has nothing better to do with his time than mock things he knows nothing about... it is best to ignore him... he is insignificant at best.
 
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The_Eviscerator said:
Imakarum_Mirabilis is a bored individual who has nothing better to do with his time than mock things he knows nothing about... it is best to ignore him... he is insignificant at best.

So true. :)
 
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