Is this considered "scamming" in your opinion?

[2BIG4URMOM]

Lmao, BRR!

Yea its the Dboler's vs. the A-bombs bro, You haven't heard!?!

 

[coachj0233]

lol lol

this is a riot...

If you part of "the clique" throw up your signs!


who da fuck is the clique? how do you earn your colors? do you have to get jumped in?


.

man i really hope these arent the typical responses someone gets around here.

id really hope you would know what i meant by a "source clique". if you dont then ill explain it for you. there are many sources around the boards that get good feedback all of the time and in alot of peoples eyes cant do wrong. if they are tested and a product comes underdosed people start screaming "it was a false test" or "someone has some type of motive against them so they altered the results" or "i dont care what the results are of that test, i know what their products have done for me in the past"..... are you following along so far? good we will continue.
then there are the sources who are well known and have a good product but bc the well known vets arent giving them praise 24/7 when they get a test done they start claiming "its a scam" or "i knew all along that persons products were shit" or whatever the case may be.

why is it ok to have your gear tested and come back underdosed if you are well known but its not when a not so popular guy has his tested? its not. and that was my response to JA and everyone else who said it was a scam. a scam is sending out underdosed or fake gear and then splitting with the money. hell estilink IS THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO REIMBURSE HIS CUSTOMERS for this mistake.
did AMD do this on the deca? nope! did couture labs do this on their EQ? no sir they didnt. did QGL do this on their primo? ya know bob, now that i think of it, they sure didnt. and the list goes on. all those guys mentioned above are some of the sources that didnt get flack when their gear was tested and came back underdosed. why? bc they are better known and have a better rep than someone like estilink plain and simple.

so thats what i meant by "sources clique" and id really hope you knew what i was referring to. if not, its written out for you.
have a great day everyone
-coachj

 

[Juice Authority]

man i really hope these arent the typical responses someone gets around here.

id really hope you would know what i meant by a "source clique". if you dont then ill explain it for you. there are many sources around the boards that get good feedback all of the time and in alot of peoples eyes cant do wrong. if they are tested and a product comes underdosed people start screaming "it was a false test" or "someone has some type of motive against them so they altered the results" or "i dont care what the results are of that test, i know what their products have done for me in the past"..... are you following along so far? good we will continue.
then there are the sources who are well known and have a good product but bc the well known vets arent giving them praise 24/7 when they get a test done they start claiming "its a scam" or "i knew all along that persons products were shit" or whatever the case may be.

why is it ok to have your gear tested and come back underdosed if you are well known but its not when a not so popular guy has his tested? its not. and that was my response to JA and everyone else who said it was a scam. a scam is sending out underdosed or fake gear and then splitting with the money. hell estilink IS THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO REIMBURSE HIS CUSTOMERS for this mistake.
did AMD do this on the deca? nope! did couture labs do this on their EQ? no sir they didnt. did QGL do this on their primo? ya know bob, now that i think of it, they sure didnt. and the list goes on. all those guys mentioned above are some of the sources that didnt get flack when their gear was tested and came back underdosed. why? bc they are better known and have a better rep than someone like estilink plain and simple.

so thats what i meant by "sources clique" and id really hope you knew what i was referring to. if not, its written out for you.
have a great day everyone
-coachj

Once again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Estilink's gear was underdosed by fucking 60%!! That's no where near any of the other labs you mention. That's a shitload! You keep saying that he "IS THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO REIMBURSE HIS CUSTOMERS." So where are these people who have been reimbursed??? How come none of these "customers" have been reimbursed yet? Why is he taking on new orders and advertising his list when there is still a huge backlog to fill?????? Do you have answers for these very simple questions??

 

[Juice Authority]

lol lol

this is a riot...

If you part of "the clique" throw up your signs!


who da fuck is the clique? how do you earn your colors? do you have to get jumped in?


.

That was pretty funny....

 

[=Viking=]

60%?
If this supposed mistake was compensated, alright.
They have lost credibility. You would have to be pretty deperate to reorder from them.

As a lab you would want some damage control. It would be great to have guys trying to convince customers that a 60% shortage is acceptable.

Coach...Compensated customer would add credibility, if they are producable.
Otherwise you just sound like a guy that has some stake in a lab.

Makes you wonder how may underdosed products went out and for how long.

 

[coachj0233]

Once again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Estilink's gear was underdosed by fucking 60%!! That's no where near any of the other labs you mention. That's a shitload! You keep saying that he "IS THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO REIMBURSE HIS CUSTOMERS." So where are these people who have been reimbursed??? How come none of these "customers" have been reimbursed yet? Why is he taking on new orders and advertising his list when there is still a huge backlog to fill?????? Do you have answers for these very simple questions??

you and i both know that hes trying to find out what batch it was that was tested so he can find out which customers to re-imburse. he has said that when he finds out the batch number he will give back to those customers. he hasnt done so YET.

ive said all along that WHEN HE DOES re-imburse these customers then he will be the only one who has done so. hell he will be the only one thats even mentioned making up for it. did any of the other labs mention this? nope. hell they probably didnt even think about that bc they figured they didnt have to.

as far as taking on new orders he has said that people need to email him to find out whats in stock at the moment before they place their orders. hes telling people if he has the products in stock or not.

i think ive answered em all
-coachj

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Just to clear something up.
Most UG labs outhere suck major cock. Anything more than 5% underdosed is a scam. I don't give a fuck what "clique" they are in, if their products don't meet label claim within 5%, they are worthless to me.

 

[deejay10]

Just to clear something up.
Most UG labs outhere suck major cock. Anything more than 5% underdosed is a scam. I don't give a fuck what "clique" they are in, if their products don't meet label claim within 5%, they are worthless to me.

It's not like selling gear is the most honorable thing out there....you can't exactly take back a underdosed bottle of Deca within 30 days if you have your recepit. This whole importing / exporting of illegal substances isn't monitored by anyone but the people in the "game". That being said if someone wants to make any kind of real money in this industry the basic business priciples that exist in corporate america still stand. The companies out there that make a lot of money....don't make money on initial purchases....it's the repeat business that keeps their pockets lined with money. You think the industry for Pokémon is still booming with repeat business? HELLL no...it was a fad, here and gone before any serious money can be made.

The key to making any real money in any kind of business is by keeping your customers happy and to keep them coming back.

What makes more sense:

10 customers buying 10 vials, getting scammed and telling all their friends and never buying again....

OR

10 customers buying 10 vials, getting good product, then not only will you get repeat business, but you'll also get the precious word of mouth advertising which will always lead to new customers.

If these people sat down and really thought about it....a quick score is never worth screwing over someone for.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

It's not like selling gear is the most honorable thing out there....you can't exactly take back a underdosed bottle of Deca within 30 days if you have your recepit. This whole importing / exporting of illegal substances isn't monitored by anyone but the people in the "game". That being said if someone wants to make any kind of real money in this industry the basic business priciples that exist in corporate america still stand. The companies out there that make a lot of money....don't make money on initial purchases....it's the repeat business that keeps their pockets lined with money. You think the industry for Pokémon is still booming with repeat business? HELLL no...it was a fad, here and gone before any serious money can be made.

The key to making any real money in any kind of business is by keeping your customers happy and to keep them coming back.

What makes more sense:

10 customers buying 10 vials, getting scammed and telling all their friends and never buying again....

OR

10 customers buying 10 vials, getting good product, then not only will you get repeat business, but you'll also get the precious word of mouth advertising which will always lead to new customers.

If these people sat down and really thought about it....a quick score is never worth screwing over someone for.

Bro, there was a time when sources were Bodybuilders themselves and would use the same stuff they sold. Now it is all about money, people who have never even lift weights in their life are seilling gear now.

I don't give a flying fuck about these Labs trying to make it up to their customers for selling them underdosed shit.
The bottom line is: they should have tested their raw material when it came in -and- they should have tested every batch they made before it went out...
But Noooooooooooo.... it is just too expensive to spend $100 on a lab test just to make sure their customers are getting what they paid for... This is what you call pure Greed of the green kind. Making all that fucking money selling gear, and can't even put some of it back into testing their products for potency... Thats just bullshit!

UG should stand for: Underdosed Garbage.

Until one of these greedy fucks steps up to the plate and starts to test their own batches, they are never getting any of my money.

 

[SuperDawgy]

My 2 cents (for whats it worth):

You get what you pay for. If you find a reputable source and like the goods...by all means stick with them. I know that the Walmart approach works universally in sales, but when it comes to a chemical that i am going to put in my ass, delts or any other spot i choose...i sure as hell better get what i think i'm getting. You underdose your shit and it'll bite you in the ass. This guy is a pretty good "case point" for that theory.

I vote SCAM. Good prices are one thing, but good product is way more important.

And Coach, please don't get your feelings hurt because someone disagreed with you. We're all grownups here and if you can't deal with someone's opinion...well, i feel sorry for you.