is this a good second cycle?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I am going for more lean mass and also hopefully to lose a little fat

age 24
5'9 1/3
190lbs
one previous cycle (500mg test-e for 12 weeks)

week 1-10 test-e 500mg
week 1-4 tbol 80mg
week 7-10 anavar 80mg

thoughts?

 

[lamged]

my second cycle was
500 enanthate
500deca
lean 8kg afetr PCT

 

[joe d]

to much oral. drop the tbol or extend the cycle to 12 weaks and run the tbol 1-4 and the var 8-12

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i was going to do deca but i want to get lean and cut for a cruise in april so deca i feel would probably give me too much water weight if i stack it with test-e. tbol i chose since it isnt supposed to give much water weight and anavar is obviously for cutting purposes. i might up my dose to 80mg though

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

Anavar at 40 mg 2X a day is a good number.

if you want to really lean out, why not run EQ and anavar together...you'll fill up some and get really lean, provided your diet and training are in check.

EQ takes a little bit longer to work, though and won't give you huge mass gains very quickly.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

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[moya]

10 weeks straight of orals sounds a bit much...
listen to joe d...

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

10 weeks straight of orals sounds a bit much...
listen to joe d...

I would be taking a 2 week break week 5 and week 6. I figured those arent as liver toxic as other orals so I thought it would be fine...

I only have time to run 10 weeks because I will be going somewhere for a week with no access to gear mid april

 

[Nelson Montana]

No sense using tbol AND anavar.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

No sense using tbol AND anavar.

can you elaborate? my thinking was to start with tbol for the first 4 weeks to add muscle and strength, then week 7-10 lose some fat with var

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i edited the first post after doing a little more research

 

[joe d]

just run the var at the end.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

just run the var at the end.

why should I drop the tbol? wouldnt I get better gains if I kept it and ran it the first 4 weeks?

 

[joe d]

its to much oral to close together. if you extended the cycle to 12 weaks it would be ok if you put a 4 weak break between them.