is this a decent cycle

[ohioguy88]

im 23 6,0 190lbs been lifting on and off for 3 to 4 years BF is 15......... ok so here we go with the cycle week 1-12 test E or C at 500MG/week weeks 1-4 androl 25MG ed weeks 1-4 liquidex 1MG ed weeks 5-12 liquidex .5mg ed week my pct would be weeks 13-15 liquidex .5mg ed and weeks 16-17 liquidex .25mg eod also id run 200mg of clomid ed starting weeks 13 and cutting it in half the fallowing weeks and so on untill i was down to 25mg ed


Thanks for any help i was also thinkn about throwing in some NPP 150 during the cycle but never tried the stuff and couldnt find alot of ppl cycling it so i wasnt sure on how much or how long to do it for any help would be great PM me if u know where to get clomid or other PCT at online

 

[stevesmi]

im 23 6,0 190lbs been lifting on and off for 3 to 4 years BF is 15......... ok so here we go with the cycle week 1-12 test E or C at 500MG/week weeks 1-4 androl 25MG ed weeks 1-4 liquidex 1MG ed weeks 5-12 liquidex .5mg ed week my pct would be weeks 13-15 liquidex .5mg ed and weeks 16-17 liquidex .25mg eod also id run 200mg of clomid ed starting weeks 13 and cutting it in half the fallowing weeks and so on untill i was down to 25mg ed


Thanks for any help i was also thinkn about throwing in some NPP 150 during the cycle but never tried the stuff and couldnt find alot of ppl cycling it so i wasnt sure on how much or how long to do it for any help would be great PM me if u know where to get clomid or other PCT at online

clomid should be run 25mg a day at a maximum. but hey we all learn the hard way

 

[ohioguy88]

o if i ran it at 25 the hole time untill pcts and taperd off would that wrk i dont wannna learn the hard pay bitch tits arnt cool

 

[blue_steel74]

clomid should be run 25mg a day at a maximum. but hey we all learn the hard way

Thats for sure Steve. I ran 100 a day for my pct once and i swear my pecker looked like it was hiding lol

 

[ohioguy88]

LOL it was an inne instead of an outie

 

[stevesmi]

o if i ran it at 25 the hole time untill pcts and taperd off would that wrk i dont wannna learn the hard pay bitch tits arnt cool

no you run your SERM when the esters clear. take a minute to read the link in my signature please and save yourself a lot of grief.

 

[stevesmi]

Thats for sure Steve. I ran 100 a day for my pct once and i swear my pecker looked like it was hiding lol

i've said it a million times on here. guys are content running an 80's style PCT that makes them feel like shit and not feel like going to the gym, gives them ED, and is catabolic because 'hey its pct so i guess i have to go suffer' THEY DON'T!! you can run a very beneficial PCT that makes you feel good and where you are able to keep most of your gains

thats why i laid out a PCT in my signature that accomplishes that. its not like i make money selling ancillaries and supplements.. i do it cause I am tired of getitng PM's from guys who ran nolva or clomid at high doses that are having problems after cycle. and then those are the same guys who gives up on cycling and just stay on cause its 'easier' as they have told me. well DUH its easier when your PCT actually makes you feel like shit!

 

[Arabian]

i've said it a million times on here. guys are content running an 80's style PCT that makes them feel like shit and not feel like going to the gym, gives them ED, and is catabolic because 'hey its pct so i guess i have to go suffer' THEY DON'T!! you can run a very beneficial PCT that makes you feel good and where you are able to keep most of your gains

thats why i laid out a PCT in my signature that accomplishes that. its not like i make money selling ancillaries and supplements.. i do it cause I am tired of getitng PM's from guys who ran nolva or clomid at high doses that are having problems after cycle. and then those are the same guys who gives up on cycling and just stay on cause its 'easier' as they have told me. well DUH its easier when your PCT actually makes you feel like shit!

Steve is exactly right. I use to run Clomid at 100 plus a day for 4 to 5 weeks after a cycle and I was so moody and depressed it was crazy. I never really referenced the link between the high dose of Clomid and my depression until I joined here. I still run Clomid after the cycle at 20 mgs per day however I also run Post Cycle and HCG at 500 per week and it is the best thing that I have found for me to recover. I would highly suggest you follow our advice on this. 200mgs per week will only cause side effects that you will have to deal with. Best of luck to you , either way you go...

 

[stevesmi]

^^yes clomid at a very low dose and unleashed and post cycle will cancel out the negative sides perfectly. its as good as a PCT stack as there is out there. thats why i recommend it.

the reason the internets has that myth of clomid at high doses then tapering is cause in the 80's they never used to kickstart their PCT's. so they would run clomid at high dosages to make up for that. today we have hcg and hcgenerate, so you already are able to kickstart your PCT

 

[rich_89]

clomid should be run 25mg a day at a maximum. but hey we all learn the hard way

Dude, this is so true. However, i think sometimes its the best way to learn.