IS the ASSAULT on Mrs. YATES over?

[manny78]

this is for you Ryan

 

[Citruscide]

There is NEVER a justification for a crime... but there are reasons why they happen, and sometimes, these reasons are beyond the control of the guilty party.

Should they go free? No. Should they be killed? No... Should they be helped... yes. Punishing someone when they didn't have the proper Mens Rea (the evil intent) to commit the crime is just rediculous. Now, I'm not saying this is the case here.

An example (that I don't agree with) is when a husband rushes in a room, his wife is having sex... he loses it, kills them in blind rage. He's still convicted of murder, but 2nd degree/voluntary manslaughter (Depending on the jurisdiction)... and not 1st degree because he didn't have the intent... the malice... yes, he intended to kill, but through a cloud of blind rage.

Like I said, I don't like the idea of a woman who killed her kids to go free... but I don't that is the case... she is getting treated for her condition.

I am a big fan of rehabilitation rather than prison... throwing people away doesn't solve much... and makes them worse criminals...

I could rant on this topic forever.

C

 

[RyanH]

Sorry Manny but it's hard to applaud a chair that does nothing more than allow society to become as barbaric as those they are murdering. Why must justice depend on death?

 

[spentagn]

Please tell us how you possibly know

I have a child, which thankfully is more than you can say. Men do experience a form of post-pardum depression. You can look that up in your books, too. My wife also dealt with it. All women do who have children. Why don't more women go off and kill 5 children? Becuase it is inhumane.

But, as you well know---- it's always harder to think than to feel.

Obviously, you can do neither.

 

[BO-CEPHUS]

Sorry Manny but it's hard to applaud a chair that does nothing more than allow society to become as barbaric as those they are murdering. Why must justice depend on death?

Has a dead person ever committed murder again?

Has a supposed rehabilitated criminal ever committed murder again?

 

[starfish]

I don't think Ryanh is trying to justify this crime.. I think he makes legitimate statements to try and PREVENT something so sad from taking place again..

starfish

 

[RyanH]

I have a child, which thankfully is more than you can say. Men do experience a form of post-pardum depression. You can look that up in your books, too. My wife also dealt with it. All women do who have children. Why don't more women go off and kill 5 children? Becuase it is inhumane.



Obviously, you can do neither.

Amusing how you simplify mental illnesses into just being the "common cold." You seem to believe that all women have the means of "dealing with it" when medical science says they often don't. Your reaction to a horrifying mental illness is simply..."gas her!" Where does that get us as a society." I'll tell you where it gets us-----we become those murderers we are killing.

 

[spentagn]

And since when are you an expert on women's mental conditions following a full-term labor?

 

[RyanH]

I don't think Ryanh is trying to justify this crime.. I think he makes legitimate statements to try and PREVENT something so sad from taking place again..

starfish

That's right, Starfish. We see that it's easier to hate than to assist those in need. As a society we should help those who can't help themselves---a fundamental American premise that many have unfortunately forgotten.

 

[OMEGA]

This issue is about the mental health of women. This case is an opportunity to highlight the silent mental issues some women face----something our great nation has unfortunately failed to understand.

WOW!!!!!



you really are a cookie cutter liberal!!!

do they make you in a factory?

with enlarged rectums, and mouths on the new and improved hollywood model?


seriuosly, I am pretty liberally leaning.......but your just plain wrong on this dude.....

not everything is a case for the establishemnt of some sort of legal precident that will effect all other laws you know.

save the dramatasicm for more "gray" area cases...this ones pretth black and white

O