Is stacking really necessary?

[gorillahung]

Doesn't anyone else run cycles of only one drug? My next cycle is going to be my first with multiple AAS (tren E and test E). I don't think multiple compounds are always needed for good results but then again, I'm not a competition bodybuilder.

 

[muskate]

It is not necessary at all. You can make fantastic gains off a testosterone only cycle if your diet and training is on point.

If you can't grow on a testosterone only cycle, pick up tennis.

Here's what I recommend:


Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day


After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/


You can order everything you need for the cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The whole concept of stacking is to adjust the anabolic and androgenic balance to your liking. Once you do more than two or three, you're just repeating yourself.

 

[stevesmi]

The whole concept of stacking is to adjust the anabolic and androgenic balance to your liking. Once you do more than two or three, you're just repeating yourself.

I was going to say the same thing.. its the ying and yang. a cycle without an androgen is going to be missing that kick you really need. plus anabolic compounds bind really well to SHBG, so you might as well take advantage of that by stacking

another example is nandrolones which convert to DHN, you want to stack in a DHT to balance that out. that's why the old guys who ran deca always ran proviron with it, they knew it worked at prevening deca dick

muskate makes a great point too about a test only cycle.. testosterone is both androgenic and anabolic.. so really it can be ran solo where you get the best of both worlds. but lets say you want to run tbol or proviron alone, you are wasting gear cause you need that androgenic kick

 

[Jay Scott]

I like muskates outlay, however I would still do it for 12 weeks instead of 10, to get a lil bit of more of those gains

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Test only cycles are great. I completely think that 1 compound cycles have a place.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes, test is both andro and anaboiic but it's far more androgenic. D-bol was essentially formulated to be more anabolic than androgenic. And then T-bol, more so. If T-bol wasn't liver toxic, it'd be pretty much perfect.

 

[gorillahung]

Yes, test is both andro and anaboiic but it's far more androgenic. D-bol was essentially formulated to be more anabolic than androgenic. And then T-bol, more so. If T-bol wasn't liver toxic, it'd be pretty much perfect.

I've had great results taking nothing but dbol at 15mg/day. That was my first cycle. I remember my bench went from 275 for six reps to 315 for six reps and 275 for 12 reps. I added a little more than an inch of arm girth.

 

[Lev Butlerov]

Stacking as such is not necessary, obviously. However, it is definitely a good idea to stack different compounds in order to get the sort of effects you are looking for. Besides, it is much safer, since you can use lower dosages with the same results, or even better results. Consequently, there will be less side effects, since those usually take place when excessive dosages are used.

Yes, test is both andro and anaboiic but it's far more androgenic. D-bol was essentially formulated to be more anabolic than androgenic. And then T-bol, more so. If T-bol wasn't liver toxic, it'd be pretty much perfect.

I agree with you - it is one of my favorite compound, and probably my favotire oral steroid. The results are great, and the side effects are minimal. As you have well said here - liver toxicity is the major problem with it. But since all oral steroids are liver toxic, it is hard to say that this is such a big issue - all other steroids will also be hepatotoxic, but at the same time they will also have other side effects.

 

[A_A_F]

Depends on how advanced you are and what your overall goals are. Most guys can most likely attain their goals with just a simple Test cycles, or a couple Test cycles.

But like Nelson said, stacking is trying to find the balance between anabolic and androgenic properties of steroids, and then finding the synergy with what you use. Then you also have steroids like Tren that is both a strong anabolic and a strong androgen.. so stacking multiple compounds with it just become redundant.

For example.. the most common stacks (excluding the test base) start with a steroid that is your primary anabolic compound.. these are typically Deca/NPP, Tren, EQ, or Primo.. and are responsible for actual muscle growth, and then you would typically stack one of those with a DHT steroid like Masteron or Winstrol, which are mostly strong androgens that will help with hardening and strength. So making a stack like that would both giving you muscle growth, combined with hardening and strength. That is pretty ideal.

There is an endless amounts of stacks out there.