is PRIMOBOLAN worth it?

[georgie24]

please only experienced users post. only people who have done primo need only apply. right now im in the middle of building a hella ripping cycle. DIET is in check as is TRAINING. i need anti-catabolic support and strength. no i cant use test/deca/eq. thats why i asked. ive ran test/tren/eq/winny in the past a few times(not all at once) and did not like the effects of any of those drugs.

 

[Singleton]

I just came off primo / test and I'm a good 18lbs heavier. I'm more solid, too. I like it a lot.

It's worth it if you get a fair price and you get the real deal.

I do and I do

 

[georgie24]

does primo ignite anxiety?

 

[babbabuee]

does primo ignite anxiety?

lol

I've done one cycle of primo (tested legit primo) and I really liked it. I kept most of my gains and no bad side effects. I'll be starting another primo cycle in May.
If I can afford it, I'll probably add it to most of my future cycles.,

 

[georgie24]

test/eq spark the mathafuckin demonic hidden creature inside me.. for now it lays asleep. hopefully a nice primo or var cycle could tip-toe around it with out WAKING it up?

 

[flex2win]

Turkish primo is the only way to go, you are taking a chance with anything you else you decide to purchase, but from what I hear, gains are def worth it!! As a matter of fact, I'm running it with prop/winny/proviron for showtime and loving it!!

 

[snagglepuss]

I just came off primo / test and I'm a good 18lbs heavier. I'm more solid, too. I like it a lot.

It's worth it if you get a fair price and you get the real deal.

I do and I do

Singleton - what doses of primo & test did you use and how long was your cycle? also, what was your workout/diet like. I am about to start a primo/test cycle. thanks.

 

[flex2win]

Primo should be run 300-400mg/wk, but can be run much higher..
As for the test, 500mg/wk should suffice, especially with a little dbol thrown in at the beginning..

 

[TheRide]

I ran a primo twice - the best results I had was with winstrol (primo 200 2x/week for 8 weeks and winstrol eod for 5.5 weeks) Kept most of my gains, had a lean and "cut" look and best of all no sides BUT.... primo is $$$$$$ and there are a LOT of fakes... be careful!!

 

[alltraps]

primo is so over rated right now, cuz its hard to get. IMO, its not worth the price. for the same price or less, anavar is a better choice. better gains and just as safe if not safer. people think primo is so great, and i will never know why. i have done it before, 400mg, and it was the real deal, this was years ago. and it wansnt worth shit to me. anavar is much much better for a lean gainer/muscle protectant while cutting

 

[paul allen]

primo is so over rated right now, cuz its hard to get. IMO, its not worth the price. for the same price or less, anavar is a better choice. better gains and just as safe if not safer. people think primo is so great, and i will never know why. i have done it before, 400mg, and it was the real deal, this was years ago. and it wansnt worth shit to me. anavar is much much better for a lean gainer/muscle protectant while cutting

These posts are gold! There are so many 'tren is amazing', 'primo is the best' etc. threads, I always read them an want to rush out and get some, until someone is brave enough to go against the grain, give me a slap across the face and say its hardly different to whatever (this case, var).

Thanks, I'd probably have been screwed over a few times if it wasn't for the likes of alltraps.

PS Anavar is the best!!!

 

[barracuda25]

primos are arnolds fav.i can get the real deal here from turkey

 

[Singleton]

Diet - 300g protein ED. Basically eating as much as I want all the time, but that works for me. You might get fat on that.

Training - modified HST. Very low volume. progressive overload. Changing rep range. Using Poliquin's 1,6 routine for benches and they're WAY up. By about 40lb.

Cycle - 100 mg primo ~150mg test EOD. Ran for about 10 weeks. It worked great.

 

[Mavy]

Primo is one of those things like var. If you are going to do it, and dish out the quid ... then dont skimp out on it ... run it, and run it good to reap the full benefits. 600mgs/wk min would be the minimum I would run it at. That is when you will see primo at its best. Same with var ... if you ever decide to pleasure yourself with this beautiful susbstance ... run it so you reap its benefits. 50mgs/day ... no lower for me.

Mavy

Someday when I am rich, I will run 1g of primo/wk and 80mgs of var/day for 14 wks twice a year. Not that bad, but still too much for me to be spending my money on. Too many things going on in my life right now.

 

[snagglepuss]

Diet - 300g protein ED. Basically eating as much as I want all the time, but that works for me. You might get fat on that.

Training - modified HST. Very low volume. progressive overload. Changing rep range. Using Poliquin's 1,6 routine for benches and they're WAY up. By about 40lb.

Cycle - 100 mg primo ~150mg test EOD. Ran for about 10 weeks. It worked great.

thank you for sharing your cycle info. Could I ask another question: what is "modified HST"? Also, what is "Poliquin's 1,6 routine"? Is there a website with information on this? thanks.

 

[Big BX]

Primo is one of those things like var. If you are going to do it, and dish out the quid ... then dont skimp out on it ... run it, and run it good to reap the full benefits. 600mgs/wk min would be the minimum I would run it at. That is when you will see primo at its best. Same with var ... if you ever decide to pleasure yourself with this beautiful susbstance ... run it so you reap its benefits. 50mgs/day ... no lower for me.

Mavy

Someday when I am rich, I will run 1g of primo/wk and 80mgs of var/day for 14 wks twice a year. Not that bad, but still too much for me to be spending my money on. Too many things going on in my life right now.

I agree. I have done 700mg primo a week and it was good. Agter my show , I gonna use it again to gain lean mass. It's better than test to me.

 

[Super Test 2004]

The only problem in my mind with Primo is that it is a drug that is hard to find. Finding real primo is a tough job, it is faked so much.

 

[georgie24]

please dont stray off topic everyone, i know its pricey i know its faked i also know that ive read manny78 and other vets say its prolly one of the best if not the best for its intended purpose. they say primo does its job and then some.

 

[majutsu]

I will never understand this fascination with anabolic "brands" when diet, training, and gains are "off" in so many . . . Which is better coke or pepsi? Is brand name coke really better than rc cola for the price? Might as well as these questions . . . Primo is not really that hard to find legit, more effort than test/deca/eq but not impossible for a relative newb with intelligence to identify (i.e. don't accept non-turkish primo, etc). It is the same cost as an amp of deca or sust usually, give or take a dollar or two, so where is this "huge" cost differential people talk about. 400 primo is like 500 test, with less acne and slightly less bloat, less gyno risk, but just as much hair loss. Test is best in general, and cheapest, but if you are susceptible to one of the effects above try primo, if not sensitive, why bother? That's really all there is to say about primo, or any anabolic really, and 50 threads to this effect are unlikely to change the situation. Really, a modest cycle of test/nandrolone/eq/primo/anavar will hit the same anabolic receptor they all hit . . . Sure people prefer one brand or another, but there is no deep abiding difference chemically. I constantly wish the 730+ people that view the anabolic board every hour would stop agonizing over whether to do 400primo/500eq or 500eq/400primo? Like it matters . . . Training and diet failures are responsible for the prevailing view that anabolics barely "work", and the fact is that for most people, gains accumulated are at a natural rate, but much more expensive and dangerous to the liver/cholesterol/etc. Just get 600primo ew, try it, and know it. I'm not anti-AAS at all, but I think people should pick an anabolic they are comfortable with, tolerate well, can get cheaply and reliably, and work the gains. This desire to "play" with anabolics wastes alot of time, energy, and I think of late, encourages people to focus on the least important aspects of building a great physique. There is nothing wrong with the thread Georgie, and I'm not trying to flame anyone, it's just I have an egg timer on my desk, and every time it rings, I have to type a venting post like this in whatever thread I'm viewing Primo is great, not that expensive, and not that hard to find. Try it, you'll probably like it. If not, test always gets the job done. Plus, Georgie, I think in past posts you've mentioned probs with AR-anabolics tren/test/eq, and you may have glucorticoid-AR cross-over problems. If I remember right, you could try a non-AR anabolic . . . . (winny e.g.) If you don't know the difference between an AR and non-AR anabolic and which are which, then you are certainly up the creek without a paddle, if so find my anabolic primer of a few months ago (by search) to read up.

 

[tzan]

I used primo at 400mg for 10wks 2 summers ago and it worked great for what I was doing(cutting). Last summer I went with 40mg var for 12 wks and it deffiantly worked better. The main differences between the two were the strength gains I got from var. In both instances my diets, training, and sleeping were about equal. With the primo I maintained all my strength while shedding excess bf, while on var I actually gained strength while shedding bf. This summer I'm going to run var/eq. All in all I liked primo, but would rather go with var. Primo destroyed my hairline

 

[georgie24]

I will never understand this fascination with anabolic "brands" when diet, training, and gains are "off" in so many . . . Which is better coke or pepsi? Is brand name coke really better than rc cola for the price? Might as well as these questions . . . Primo is not really that hard to find legit, more effort than test/deca/eq but not impossible for a relative newb with intelligence to identify (i.e. don't accept non-turkish primo, etc). It is the same cost as an amp of deca or sust usually, give or take a dollar or two, so where is this "huge" cost differential people talk about. 400 primo is like 500 test, with less acne and slightly less bloat, less gyno risk, but just as much hair loss. Test is best in general, and cheapest, but if you are susceptible to one of the effects above try primo, if not sensitive, why bother? That's really all there is to say about primo, or any anabolic really, and 50 threads to this effect are unlikely to change the situation. Really, a modest cycle of test/nandrolone/eq/primo/anavar will hit the same anabolic receptor they all hit . . . Sure people prefer one brand or another, but there is no deep abiding difference chemically. I constantly wish the 730+ people that view the anabolic board every hour would stop agonizing over whether to do 400primo/500eq or 500eq/400primo? Like it matters . . . Training and diet failures are responsible for the prevailing view that anabolics barely "work", and the fact is that for most people, gains accumulated are at a natural rate, but much more expensive and dangerous to the liver/cholesterol/etc. Just get 600primo ew, try it, and know it. I'm not anti-AAS at all, but I think people should pick an anabolic they are comfortable with, tolerate well, can get cheaply and reliably, and work the gains. This desire to "play" with anabolics wastes alot of time, energy, and I think of late, encourages people to focus on the least important aspects of building a great physique. There is nothing wrong with the thread Georgie, and I'm not trying to flame anyone, it's just I have an egg timer on my desk, and every time it rings, I have to type a venting post like this in whatever thread I'm viewing Primo is great, not that expensive, and not that hard to find. Try it, you'll probably like it. If not, test always gets the job done. Plus, Georgie, I think in past posts you've mentioned probs with AR-anabolics tren/test/eq, and you may have glucorticoid-AR cross-over problems. If I remember right, you could try a non-AR anabolic . . . . (winny e.g.) If you don't know the difference between an AR and non-AR anabolic and which are which, then you are certainly up the creek without a paddle, if so find my anabolic primer of a few months ago (by search) to read up.

your prolly right man. i need more info on ar and no ar drugs. test drives me insane even at low dose. 200 mg week fucks with my mind to no end.

 

[majutsu]

That's what I thought. I remember you saying once test/eq/and tren all drove you nuts. But I wasn't sure I remembered right. So, I figured you might really be asking "Do you think primo will work for me?". If I have the right guy in memory, I think it odd that so many things would "be bad" for you. But primo, in particular, feels real emotionally testy to me. I get a sort-of chattery feeling in my teeth with test, for example, which I like btw, but I get the same edge with primo and to a lesser degree eq. Now that's a real idiosyncratic reaction, but you get the idea, primo is like a clean test to me. You may have trouble with primo too, but at a little cost outlay . Maybe NPP is best idea for you, as deca (nandrolone) is real UN-testy, but I also remember you saying you feared recovery problems with deca, so NPP might be ideal solution for you. I love primo, but I also love test. Maybe for you Georgie NPP and winny may be good choice.

 

[WanderingClumsyFool]

Primo at the high dosages is murder on your hair. Much worse than testosterone. I don't recommed high dosages of primo. No more than 400mg/week. After that, your hair comes out in big greesy clumps. At least that is what happened with me.

 

[Singleton]

thank you for sharing your cycle info. Could I ask another question: what is "modified HST"? Also, what is "Poliquin's 1,6 routine"? Is there a website with information on this? thanks.

You can learn about 1,6 right over in Elite's training forum. Or search google for more info on it:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Poliquin's+1,6&btnG=Google+Search

HST = Hypertrophy Specific Training
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Hypertrophy+Specific+Training&btnG=Google+Search


For my HST program, I split the whole body up instead of doing the whole body 3x/week. I cannot tolerate the volume they advocate. I will become overtrained doing squats, deads, OHP, et c all on one day.

Day 1 - c/a/s
Bench, Arnold Press,Pullover, EZ bar curl, crossover

Day 2 - legs/back
Squat, cable row, calve raise, hammer strength pulldown machine

Day 3 - c/a/s
Incline Press, OHP, pullover

Day 4 - legs/back
Deads, BB row, CG Pulldown, wg pulldown (switch to chins in 5's)


Monitored the signs of overtraining and took a day off as needed. Abs on day off, and any other time I felt like it (usu about 2x week).

 

[confid12000]

Shit! I just began (yesterday!) a cycle with 250mg Primo ew + 30mg Var ed, but the doses mentioned in this thread make me feel like an ant (not atomic, though). I am 40 and not looking to compete or anything like that... I am just after 10 pounds of lbm. I intend to run it for 7 weeks. Is this enough for my goal?

And, BTW, I am using Spanish (100mg) and Mexican (50mg) Primos...so it is not impossible to get something else apart from the Turkish...