Is my testosterone permanently suppressed?

[nisser512]

I'm 27 years old.

I did a total of 5 or 6 cycles over a period of two years. I stuck to test, tren, deca, and dbol and never exceeded 1200 total milligrams per week. I followed what I thought to be proper juicing protocol and I always included proper PCT.

Anyway, I'm 15 months clean now and during that time my strength has declined dramatically. I'm a competitive powerlifter and I am now totalling less than I did prior to my two years of juicing.

Being concerned, I went and had blood work done. It wasn't good. Besides having low HDL levels, my total testosterone was 317 on the first test and only 197 when they re-tested. I'm going to be seing a specialist in the near future, but I'm quite concerned. I don't want to go on permanent HRT. I'd like to have more children and return to drug-tested Powerlifting meets (can't do it on HRT).

Will my testosterone and cholesteral levels continue to improve. Or, after 15 clean months, am I basically screwed?

Thanks.

2 years = 24 months

Assuming an average cycle is 3 months, you were ON gear for 15 - 18 months of the 24 month period, which doesn't leave a lot of room for PCT and for your body to regain control and balance. All the PCT protocols in the world won't save you if you don't give yourself adequate time.

Sucks.

 

[needtogetaas]

I would check out all the dermacream threads they say they can bring back natty test....
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532758

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=531730&highlight=Dermacrine

 

[tin2]

I'm 27 years old.

I did a total of 5 or 6 cycles over a period of two years. I stuck to test, tren, deca, and dbol and never exceeded 1200 total milligrams per week. I followed what I thought to be proper juicing protocol and I always included proper PCT.

Anyway, I'm 15 months clean now and during that time my strength has declined dramatically. I'm a competitive powerlifter and I am now totalling less than I did prior to my two years of juicing.

Being concerned, I went and had blood work done. It wasn't good. Besides having low HDL levels, my total testosterone was 317 on the first test and only 197 when they re-tested. I'm going to be seing a specialist in the near future, but I'm quite concerned. I don't want to go on permanent HRT. I'd like to have more children and return to drug-tested Powerlifting meets (can't do it on HRT).

Will my testosterone and cholesteral levels continue to improve. Or, after 15 clean months, am I basically screwed?

Thanks.

Deca and some others can shut u down for a long time .. Your body will recover naturally in time .. Another PCT with HCG and Clomid should help a lot .

 

[squat-alot]

Thanks for all the advice guys.

My doctor is setting me up an appointment with a specialist. Before I jump on HCG, nolva, or clomid, I will be completely honest with the doctor and seek his advice. Hopefully there is something that can be done to get me back to a healthy state.

Interestingly, just before my final cycle, I got my wife pregnant. So my shit was obviously functional at that point. Then, I started my last cycle which was simply 1000mg of test enanthate for 12 weeks. I will admit to doing a not-so-intense PCT after that last cycle..........but shit, even if I had done no PCT at all, I should have fully recovered by now.

Who knows, maybe I had low testosterone levels before I ever started cycling. When I went on my first cycle of 500mg test and 300mg deca, I was AMAZED how hard my man-meat would get at times. Since coming clean, my hard-ons have returned to moderate stiffness. Functional, but not the iron rods I used to get when juicing.

Even so, I'm struggling to lift weights that I was capable of doing prior to juicing...........so something ain't right here.

 

[chestmaster1]

do you squat? I just realized your name is squat-a- lot, just checking squats because help me raise my test

 

[tin2]

Thanks for all the advice guys.

My doctor is setting me up an appointment with a specialist. Before I jump on HCG, nolva, or clomid, I will be completely honest with the doctor and seek his advice. Hopefully there is something that can be done to get me back to a healthy state.

Interestingly, just before my final cycle, I got my wife pregnant. So my shit was obviously functional at that point. Then, I started my last cycle which was simply 1000mg of test enanthate for 12 weeks. I will admit to doing a not-so-intense PCT after that last cycle..........but shit, even if I had done no PCT at all, I should have fully recovered by now.

Who knows, maybe I had low testosterone levels before I ever started cycling. When I went on my first cycle of 500mg test and 300mg deca, I was AMAZED how hard my man-meat would get at times. Since coming clean, my hard-ons have returned to moderate stiffness. Functional, but not the iron rods I used to get when juicing.

Even so, I'm struggling to lift weights that I was capable of doing prior to juicing...........so something ain't right here.

Just wondering .? did you have a girl ?

 

[squat-alot]

Yep, a healthy baby girl.
Born last summer.

 

[tin2]

Yep, a healthy baby girl.
Born last summer.

Congrats .. thats what i assumed .. AAS use is linked to female babies..

 

[dscarfonyc]

I am also currently going down this dark road.. My test ( tested every month).. by a specialist is 328. They have me on hcg 5000 ius a week, and clomid.. still low lh and fsh.. i go back next week to see about doing hmg.. i will keep you posted

 

[dscarfonyc]

did you have your baby after taking gear for years? or just a short period of time?