Is my gear stuffed?

[HansNZ]

I was heating my gear to the boiling point of water, i.e. 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees fahrenheit?) in the oven to sterilise it. I told my mother "do NOT touch the oven, do NOT open the door". Because she is so interfering she opened the door, decided the oven wasn't hot enough and turned it up to 150 degrees (I think that is 300 degrees fahrenheit). It was at this temperature for about 5 mins.

Will this have stuffed it? It was test and nandrolone.

 

[karachikid]

Dear Norman,


Tell Mrs. Bates to stop being so interferring. Then sell the Hotel, put the bitch in a home & buy yourself a life. "Mommy ruined my gear"...lmao

 

[HansNZ]

Dear Norman,


Tell Mrs. Bates to stop being so interferring. Then sell the Hotel, put the bitch in a home & buy yourself a life. "Mommy ruined my gear"...lmao

And this post is helpful how??? Don't waste people's time with flames. Go bitch somewhere else.

 

[MadCow1]

animalkits.be has a forum where they can give you more exact info for future reference but I don't think it's warranted.

That being said, almost all roids are good to well over 300 degrees especially when buffered with BA and oil in solution.

Nandrolone has the lowest melting point - (right around room temp it is a liquid) and it should be able to survive to at least 300 in solution without problem. Since we are only talking 5 minutes not a huge deal. I've gone over this many times in the past with multiple chemists and animal so I'm confident your gear is 100% fine. Test is even more resistant so you are fine there too.

Also note - it is not the heat that is killing the bacteria but the rapid temperature fluctuations from bringing the solution to heat and then cooling repeatedly. Tell you mom to back off.

 

[HansNZ]

Thanks Madcow, that's exactly the information I was after.

I did a search but found surprisingly little on this issue. I remember seeing similar questions before but the answers seem to be buried away in other threads somewhere.

I didn't know that it was the temperature fluctuations that were responsible for killing the bacteria.

When I treat my steroids I usually mix the injectables together and dilute them with sesame oil (helps with pain). I swirl the oil around to let the BA in the injectables sterilise the sesame oil. I then heat it in a glass vial placed in boiling water to sterilise it and allow the alcohol to evaporate.

After this I filter it through a 2 micron filter and load it (still hot) into syringes. When I go to inject I reheat the syringe for half and hour, then run it under a cold tap to cool it a bit and inject it straight away.

Do you think this is sufficient to thoroughly sterilise it, or have I simply been lucky so far?

 

[MadCow1]

Tough to say - when fina first came out (long before kits - like early 90's and no one used it much) I did 2 cycles where I crushed up 3 tabs per day, heated them in 1-1.5 cc of oil over a stove to make solution, drew into syringe, let cool, and injected. No infections - no pain - excellent results. Does that mean it was sterile or that I would be comfortable doing it today. No.

You are mixing your injectibles together (different kinds?) - I can't say this is good. This is why sust 250 only comes in 1cc amps. If it came in a larger bottle it would not retain consistent proportions for each injection. Each ester has a different structure and weight. The active swirling before pulling it into a syringe might help but there is just no way it's going to be 100% even.

Also the boiling point of BA is relatively high - I'm not convinced that this works at removing BA (unless the manufacturer is not using BA but a more volatile alcohol with a lower boiling point - is this IP stuff? This is what I noticed when I heated his. Perhaps this is the cause for the painful injections and lumps - not BA? Who knows but I'm not the only one who found it curious.)

For bacteria purposes I would go with the method of bringing it up and down to temp around 3 times then apply the filter.

Reheating the syringe is just an attempt to lessen the viscocity (spelling?) and make the injection less painful as the oil should spread easier.

This is a lot of trouble to go through. Obviously you don't trust the person who's making your gear. I'd think on that for a while. Personally, I'd buy higher quality. Smooth painless injections and no bullshit.