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is Micheal Richards racist?
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gjohnson5
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Getting back to this , why does this tirade have to be an attack on everything else around it? What Kramer said is the issue here , not how we treat racial epithets , or what one perverted , twisted , miscontrued mind things of another poster.
The N word is only a small part of the issue , his entire tirade and wha he thinks of other races due to his tirade is
The N word is only a small part of the issue , his entire tirade and wha he thinks of other races due to his tirade is
Gumaro said:
Gumaro
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gjohnson5 said:
but how we treat racial epithets has to do with what richard said. racial slurs/jokes/insults are common at comedy shows. IMO, its only because richard said the 'n-word' that this got out of hand.
although, since he is a well known celeb, this would have the same repercusions it is having now had he used any racial
redsamurai
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as I stated in another thread......try going to the apollo and heckling some black comedian.....don't even use any racist shit.....just heckle him......see what happens......and these two jabronies are "suing".....I hope they're suing for the face value of their tickets for that evening.....that's reasonable. But of course I'm not stupid and I know full well that they will expect millions from this.....especially now that Gloria Allred is involved, she needs her cut too. Typical american bullshit theatrics...
Smurfy said:
Just like Mel Gibson. I actually saw a preview for his movie Apocalypto on Fox during The War At Home. They even showed him narrating some of it.
musrat98
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Unless I'm mistaken, isn't "Kramer" jewish anyway??
No one has suffered in america as much as the native americans yet somehow you hardly ever hear of them standing up and playing the race card.
If two (indians) were the ones in the audience, were called savages and told 150 years ago you would have been shot, your daughters raped, your land stolen and your main source of food brought to the brink of extinction, that it would be such a big deal? Uhhhhhh NO.
As usual the poor black man has been wronged again so lets sue.
Its getting kinda old, don't you think.
In my expierence every time a white and a black get into an argument the first one to use racist comments are the black people. white s.o.b., cracker, white boy, white devil, honky, bucker, wigga, etc.
No one has suffered in america as much as the native americans yet somehow you hardly ever hear of them standing up and playing the race card.
If two (indians) were the ones in the audience, were called savages and told 150 years ago you would have been shot, your daughters raped, your land stolen and your main source of food brought to the brink of extinction, that it would be such a big deal? Uhhhhhh NO.
As usual the poor black man has been wronged again so lets sue.
Its getting kinda old, don't you think.
In my expierence every time a white and a black get into an argument the first one to use racist comments are the black people. white s.o.b., cracker, white boy, white devil, honky, bucker, wigga, etc.
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53078
Black firefighter a disgrace
Tennie Pierce, a black 19-year veteran firefighter, recently won a $2.7 million settlement from the Los Angeles City Council.
Here's the story. Following a firehouse volleyball game, fellow firefighters laced Pierce's spaghetti with dog food to "humble" him. Pierce, who calls himself "the Big Dog," took a few bites, saw three co-conspirator firefighters – two whites, one Latino – laughing, and demanded to know why the chuckling.
Pierce, after learning that the firefighters – in an undoubtedly good-natured way – placed dog food in his spaghetti, called the prank "racist"! He hired a lawyer, found an "expert" witness who associated the consumption of dog food with "300 years" of discrimination against blacks, and successfully settled the case with the city.
Los Angeles Times reporter Sandy Banks, in an article about the award, failed to mention a few salient facts: that Pierce somehow managed to survive on the force for almost 20 years; that fellow firefighters referred to Pierce as a "turd stirrer" – meaning he routinely pulled pranks on others; that the 6-foot 5-inch Pierce often referred to himself as "the Big Dog"; that the incident was apparently a reaction to a volleyball game won by Pierce during which he repeatedly urged to his teammates to "feed the Big Dog" by throwing the ball to him; and that, in the frat boy tradition of many firefighters, his co-workers likely fed him dog food as a display of affection, knowing that, after all, Pierce had pulled pranks on many others during his long career – photos of which (including Pierce's involvement in the shaving of the pubic hairs of a fellow firefighter) later appeared on the Internet.
Days before I read about the firefighter's award, my 91-year-old dad and I watched a movie called "Proud." Narrated by the late, great Ossie Davis, the movie dramatized the experience of black sailors aboard the USS Mason during World War II. The ship became the only black-manned ship that actually saw combat. As a destroyer escort, it shepherded Allied convoys through German sub-filled waters, taking risks even the vaunted English Navy refused, deeming the mission too treacherous. Indeed, black sailors welcomed the assignment to the ship because, during this military-segregated era, they wished to prove themselves by seeing actual combat rather than engaging in "menial" labor.
In one scene, a German sub launched a torpedo at the USS Mason, but the highly skilled blacks – thought too dumb to master hi-tech equipment including sonar detection – skillfully evaded the torpedo. They then counter-attacked by launching depth charges. The men of the USS Mason, despite their heroics, never received a commendation, even though their commander sent a letter to Washington, urging recognition for these brave sailors. As a result of lobbying by the grandson of one of the sailors described in "Proud," President Clinton honored the surviving crewmen during a long-delayed ceremony. Finally, the USS Mason crew received their rightful commendation for bravery and sacrifice.
It's difficult to describe the feeling of honor and pride I felt as I watched my dad watching the movie. Every five minutes I looked at my dad, as he watched the movie with his typically stoic expression. My dad, you see, served as a cook during the war, earning the rank of staff sergeant. He spent time on Guam as soldiers prepared for an assault on the island of Japan, a mission aborted, of course, because of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He, too, like many black soldiers, received little recognition for his contribution. My dad once told me he enlisted as a Marine in 1943 because "it seemed to me that the Marines were all about action. And I wanted it."
After my dad and I watched "Proud," he said it reminded him of a wartime story – a story he never told me. "Son," he said, "we black enlistees had just gone through training at Montford Point, North Carolina. We gathered to hear a speech – supposedly inspirational – given by a white major. The officer said, 'You know, I traveled all over the world. But I only realized that we were truly at war when I came home and saw you people wearing our uniforms.'" Insulted, my dad said he and every Marine stood in a silent protest of the major's blatantly racist remark.
This brings us back to Mr. "Rin Tin" Tennie Pierce. Enjoy your $2.7 million. When the next Veterans Day comes around, think about how your bonanza trivializes the grit, determination and honor with which black men and women withstood insult, degradation and abuse during Jim Crow America. They stood tall and demonstrated by word and deed that black men and women – like my dad – considered themselves Americans, not African-Americans, who only wanted an opportunity to show their ability.
Your crass, manipulative use of the race-card-for-money insults countless men and women who endured indignities, marched and died, to provide you the right to work as a firefighter – an opportunity historically denied to qualified black men and women.
You, sir, are a disgrace.
Black firefighter a disgrace
Tennie Pierce, a black 19-year veteran firefighter, recently won a $2.7 million settlement from the Los Angeles City Council.
Here's the story. Following a firehouse volleyball game, fellow firefighters laced Pierce's spaghetti with dog food to "humble" him. Pierce, who calls himself "the Big Dog," took a few bites, saw three co-conspirator firefighters – two whites, one Latino – laughing, and demanded to know why the chuckling.
Pierce, after learning that the firefighters – in an undoubtedly good-natured way – placed dog food in his spaghetti, called the prank "racist"! He hired a lawyer, found an "expert" witness who associated the consumption of dog food with "300 years" of discrimination against blacks, and successfully settled the case with the city.
Los Angeles Times reporter Sandy Banks, in an article about the award, failed to mention a few salient facts: that Pierce somehow managed to survive on the force for almost 20 years; that fellow firefighters referred to Pierce as a "turd stirrer" – meaning he routinely pulled pranks on others; that the 6-foot 5-inch Pierce often referred to himself as "the Big Dog"; that the incident was apparently a reaction to a volleyball game won by Pierce during which he repeatedly urged to his teammates to "feed the Big Dog" by throwing the ball to him; and that, in the frat boy tradition of many firefighters, his co-workers likely fed him dog food as a display of affection, knowing that, after all, Pierce had pulled pranks on many others during his long career – photos of which (including Pierce's involvement in the shaving of the pubic hairs of a fellow firefighter) later appeared on the Internet.
Days before I read about the firefighter's award, my 91-year-old dad and I watched a movie called "Proud." Narrated by the late, great Ossie Davis, the movie dramatized the experience of black sailors aboard the USS Mason during World War II. The ship became the only black-manned ship that actually saw combat. As a destroyer escort, it shepherded Allied convoys through German sub-filled waters, taking risks even the vaunted English Navy refused, deeming the mission too treacherous. Indeed, black sailors welcomed the assignment to the ship because, during this military-segregated era, they wished to prove themselves by seeing actual combat rather than engaging in "menial" labor.
In one scene, a German sub launched a torpedo at the USS Mason, but the highly skilled blacks – thought too dumb to master hi-tech equipment including sonar detection – skillfully evaded the torpedo. They then counter-attacked by launching depth charges. The men of the USS Mason, despite their heroics, never received a commendation, even though their commander sent a letter to Washington, urging recognition for these brave sailors. As a result of lobbying by the grandson of one of the sailors described in "Proud," President Clinton honored the surviving crewmen during a long-delayed ceremony. Finally, the USS Mason crew received their rightful commendation for bravery and sacrifice.
It's difficult to describe the feeling of honor and pride I felt as I watched my dad watching the movie. Every five minutes I looked at my dad, as he watched the movie with his typically stoic expression. My dad, you see, served as a cook during the war, earning the rank of staff sergeant. He spent time on Guam as soldiers prepared for an assault on the island of Japan, a mission aborted, of course, because of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He, too, like many black soldiers, received little recognition for his contribution. My dad once told me he enlisted as a Marine in 1943 because "it seemed to me that the Marines were all about action. And I wanted it."
After my dad and I watched "Proud," he said it reminded him of a wartime story – a story he never told me. "Son," he said, "we black enlistees had just gone through training at Montford Point, North Carolina. We gathered to hear a speech – supposedly inspirational – given by a white major. The officer said, 'You know, I traveled all over the world. But I only realized that we were truly at war when I came home and saw you people wearing our uniforms.'" Insulted, my dad said he and every Marine stood in a silent protest of the major's blatantly racist remark.
This brings us back to Mr. "Rin Tin" Tennie Pierce. Enjoy your $2.7 million. When the next Veterans Day comes around, think about how your bonanza trivializes the grit, determination and honor with which black men and women withstood insult, degradation and abuse during Jim Crow America. They stood tall and demonstrated by word and deed that black men and women – like my dad – considered themselves Americans, not African-Americans, who only wanted an opportunity to show their ability.
Your crass, manipulative use of the race-card-for-money insults countless men and women who endured indignities, marched and died, to provide you the right to work as a firefighter – an opportunity historically denied to qualified black men and women.
You, sir, are a disgrace.
