Is Kerry's speech on Stem Cell research...

[Becoming]

do we have viable stem cell lines from every possible stem cell in the body?

show me that it would make one ounce of difference or that that is the key (outside of speculation)

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

show me that it would make one ounce of difference or that that is the key (outside of speculation)

thats pretty circular. im trying to find something from the UK on something something 5, heard about it in a presentation.

 

[timwillt73]

do we have viable stem cell lines from every possible stem cell in the body?

if we do, i stand corrected.

I thought that stem cells were supposed to be the end all be all BECAUSE they can be manipulated to BECOME any type tissue in the body.

Am I wrong?

If I am, I stand corrected.

Here are my concerns;
1. If one day there is a breakthrough in stem research and it becomes very profitable, and fetus cells are the very bestest.
2. Would people be paid for their aborted fetus'?
3. Would it become a real job for women? human fetus cell factories? get pregnant, have abortion, sell fetus, repeat?
4. It sounds like a huge pandora's box to me.
5. I may be overreacting.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I thought that stem cells were supposed to be the end all be all BECAUSE they can be manipulated to BECOME any type tissue in the body.

Am I wrong?

If I am, I stand corrected.

Here are my concerns;
1. If one day there is a breakthrough in stem research and it becomes very profitable, and fetus cells are the very bestest.
2. Would people be paid for their aborted fetus'?
3. Would it become a real job for women? human fetus cell factories? get pregnant, have abortion, sell fetus, repeat?
4. It sounds like a huge pandora's box to me.
5. I may be overreacting.

pandora's box... very possibly.

its not actually a fetus at 5 days. think about it like this. at 5 days after conception, the blastocyst is a conglomeration of cells with an inner and outer mass. this inner and outer mass is not(yet) attached to the uterine wall(which if it was, then would equal pregnancy).

unsucessful in-vitro fertilizations from a fertility clinic are mostly unsuccessful because the blastocyst never attaches to the uterine wall(they want it to, but for some reason it doesnt work)

it would be a way of using unsuccessful in vitro fertilizations.

really, concerns 2, 3 arent applicable (if using this method for harvesting stem cells)because of this.

there's whats called a 'presidential list' which are the stem cells which had been characterized at the time in which president bush gave his speech on ending funding and not producing any more lines of stem cells.

the list has something like 60-75 types of stem cells on it, but only 12 (and up until very recently only 11) of them have been made into cell lines.

 

[timwillt73]

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I hope that there can be a compromise reached on this issue that all parties can live.

 

[jestros]

Generally I am in favor of all science, but here's the problem, what if they figure out how to fix Cheney's ticker?
Then I would have to just hope he gets hit by a bus.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Generally I am in favor of all science, but here's the problem, what if they figure out how to fix Cheney's ticker?
Then I would have to just hope he gets hit by a bus.

would that be considered an elastic collision

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I thought that stem cells were supposed to be the end all be all BECAUSE they can be manipulated to BECOME any type tissue in the body.

Am I wrong?

If I am, I stand corrected.

Here are my concerns;
1. If one day there is a breakthrough in stem research and it becomes very profitable, and fetus cells are the very bestest.
2. Would people be paid for their aborted fetus'?
3. Would it become a real job for women? human fetus cell factories? get pregnant, have abortion, sell fetus, repeat?
4. It sounds like a huge pandora's box to me.
5. I may be overreacting.

No, it would be much easier and more cost effective to just extrect several eggs, or even all of a dead woman's eggs, then fertilize them in a lab and use the cells produced.

Your concerning, while it sounds viable at first, is a non-issue since that would just not be the most effective or profitable way to obtain a 3 day old cluster of cells.

 

[timwillt73]

Yeah, definitely apples and oranges.