Is it true

[cabom]

Is it true that the gains that you make on gear will only remain if you do another cycle. My problem is that I want to do my first cycle in the next few months, but I dont want to spend the money on it if I will loose all my gains. I am only planning on doing maybe one or two cycles. I will be doing proper post cycle. But will I never be able to gain mass unless I do another cycle. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks

 

[Paulos]

Wrong.

If you made gains naturally before you began using A.S. you should not have a problem making gains when you go back to training naturally.

 

[cabom]

Yeah I know that, but will you have to keep on going on AS in order to gain muscle again? Most importantly, will I loose my gains that I make from my cycle and return to the size I was before I went on AS? If yes, hence the only way to stay big is to stay on gear. Iam confused.

 

[Paulos]

No, when you come off you should retain the majority of your gains depending on what you used.

You could run one cycle and never juice again and there wouldn't be a problem maintaining assuming you came off correctly.

 

[cabom]

Thanks MAn,

My cycle will look like this
Week 1-10
400mg test enathate (200tues and 200 thurs)

Week 1-15
armidex 0.5mg per day

Week 13
clomid 100mg ed

Week 14
clomid 50mg ed

Week 15 50mg clomid eod

And Nolvadex on hand incase of gyno.
I will start clomid therapy 2 weeks after my last shot of test.
With this cycle, will I be able to retain and gan muscle after it?

 

[Lefico]

Decrease arimidex intake to 0.25mg /ED
Nolvadex won't be neccesary.
throw in something like boldenone or deca here. (400-500mg/wk).
test only cycles isn't the best way.

 

[cabom]

I have been told by many people that test only cycles are fantastic for bulking up for the first cycle.

 

[Stillgoing]

Thanks MAn,

My cycle will look like this
Week 1-10
400mg test enathate (200tues and 200 thurs)

Week 1-15
armidex 0.5mg per day

Week 13
clomid 100mg ed

Week 14
clomid 50mg ed

Week 15 50mg clomid eod

And Nolvadex on hand incase of gyno.
I will start clomid therapy 2 weeks after my last shot of test.
With this cycle, will I be able to retain and gan muscle after it?

I think this is a great first cycle. Test only is just fine. You don't need to add deca. Do a 2 compound cycle your second cycle.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I have been told by many people that test only cycles are fantastic for bulking up for the first cycle.

It worked for me!
Sustanon250 @ 500mg wk for 8 weeks = 20lbs (kept 15 solid)

 

[201mph]

It worked for me!
Sustanon250 @ 500mg wk for 8 weeks = 20lbs (kept 15 solid)

Worked for me as well. I gained approx 20lbs and my strength went through the roof. Sust is beautiful stuff for quick strength/weight gain.

-201mph-

 

[Mikey]

Test is the way to go. Put on 20 kept 15.

 

[cabom]

Thanks Guys

 

[lonewulf]

Def do test only, its great, you can get by with 200mg of a mexican vet(underdosed) and still get super gains. Dont overdo your first cycle.-WULF

 

[cabom]

Thanks, I have had a few months off from the gym. I started back last week. I have decided to eat and eat and lift (just that) for at least 3 weeks, then I will start on the protein/creatine and glutamine again for about another month and then add my cycle.
Is that the best way for me to do this?

 

[cabom]

ANYONE

 

[02gixxersix]

Decrease arimidex intake to 0.25mg /ED
Nolvadex won't be neccesary.
throw in something like boldenone or deca here. (400-500mg/wk).
test only cycles isn't the best way.

if this is your first cycle then test only IS the way to go. Just eat right, drink lots of water, sleep a lot, and train hard. now presonally I would inject the test 3 days apart, simply because I think enanthate has a half life of 5 days (someone correct me if im wrong) and it may keep your levels a little more constant. prolly wont matter but why not right. looks like a good cycle, im very pleased to see a newbie finally using his brains and not tryin to stack 20 different things for the "ultimate stack" or something when he doesnt even know how his body will react. good luck dude. karma to u for not pissing me off with a stupid question or something lol. sorry its 5 in the morning and i have the flu im not in the best mood.

 

[02gixxersix]

and stupid me didnt even answer your question. It seems to be popular opinion that your body will automatically bring itself back to it natural potential if your were to exceed this. However if you are not yet there, then your gains will be permanent if you eat and train correctly. remember when u come off that your not gonna be able to recover quite as quickly, so reduce the volume of your excercises. welcome to the darkside!!!!!

 

[cabom]

Thanks, I have done my research for ages. So I guess that what I suggested would be the best way to get back?
Thanks for the responses.

 

[Only1eagle]

Aye aye.

Test only. Do 3 days apart. m-th

Also make sure you drink LOTS of water and eat very well!

You will enjoy what you gain off test only and if post treatment is correct (looks good to me) you will have no problem keeping 50-75% of your gains.

 

[CHARCHECK]

you know what my favorite thing about this entire post is...


this statement


I am only planning on doing maybe one or two cycles.



Todays youth, so young and innocent...almost makes u cry!!
I can almost remember the day I said that, let it be 8 years ago...1 cycle and that is it...just want to get a little bit bigger and then I will be happy.... well needless to say here I am, and obviously I did not do 1 cycle and get out, but I do commend a few of the newbies, shit I consider myself a newbie when compared to the wisdom of this board...these newbies will get online and learn a bit...all i remember 8 years or so ago..was a guy with some russian dbols and said take 4-6 a day for 8 weeks..what a fucking dumbass I was.. but good luck bro, and welcome to the club..and if u find that u can do 1 and get out, well more power to you..but wait until that feeling hits you !!

 

[sergio]

you know what my favorite thing about this entire post is...


this statement


I am only planning on doing maybe one or two cycles.



Todays youth, so young and innocent...almost makes u cry!!
I can almost remember the day I said that, let it be 8 years ago...1 cycle and that is it...just want to get a little bit bigger and then I will be happy.... well needless to say here I am, and obviously I did not do 1 cycle and get out, but I do commend a few of the newbies, shit I consider myself a newbie when compared to the wisdom of this board...these newbies will get online and learn a bit...all i remember 8 years or so ago..was a guy with some russian dbols and said take 4-6 a day for 8 weeks..what a fucking dumbass I was.. but good luck bro, and welcome to the club..and if u find that u can do 1 and get out, well more power to you..but wait until that feeling hits you !!

So true..thought I would only want to put on 20-25 lbs doing at least 2 cycles, and here I am still going..

 

[cabom]

HA HA, you guys are proberly rite. I am never satisphied. It is proud to be a part of the club. I have been a flooter for years researshing. Love all the wisdom and advice.

So do you think that just eating and training for a few more weeks, and then start on the creatine,protein and glutamine for bout a month to get back properly, and then start my cycle. Incase you didnt read, I have had 2 months offf. Thanks Guys.

 

[T2O]

bro if you are going to do 400mgs just hit it all at once. Why break it up???

 

[T2O]

I mean just hit 400mgs ew at one time and BTW you will love enanthate or cyponate. Have fun and good luck. Just make sure you come off right. I would wait 10-14 days hit yourself with some hcg 2000ius every other day for 10 days and start your clomid therapy at 300mgs day 1, day 2-10 100mgs ed and 50mgs ed for the remander to finish up three weeks clomid. Easily keep 50-75% gains

 

[cabom]

T20, thanks but I didnt know that I had to finish with hcg. Is it important I havent seen to much when researching it.
s my comeback the best way to come back?

 

[cabom]

Anyone?

 

[pin cuishon]

ye bro,..yer comback looks reasonable. it'll give u time to regain wut youve lost from being down naturally, then kick in the test. do it every 3rd day. to keep blood levels contsant.

also,..."i only plan on doin one cycle" ...lol

this is a feet of strenght diplayed by only the strongest men...obviously stronger than anyone on this board,...mentally at least.

when my friends come to me and ask me for advice on there first cycle, i always tell them this, "ill get u what u need, but no this, you wont do just one cycle" its like pringles bro,...once you pop, you cant stop.

welcome to the most addictive drug in the world...STEROIDS...its like owning the world every morning you wake up on tets for 8wks.

--PC--

 

[cabom]

Thanks man, yes I can see that I will be doing more than 1.