Is HCG worth it?

[JohnyJuice]

How effective is HCG combined with clomid? And when would you take it for post cycle recovery. At what dosage?

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[rickw]

 

[JohnyJuice]

bump for me

 

[humanoid]

HCG should be taken prior to Clomid. You'll get varying schools of thought on doses. Some say 2,500iu twice per week for two weeks and some say 500iu ED for two weeks. When I finish my current cycle I will use 500iu ED for two weeks followed by Clomid (Clomid will start 3 weeks after my last Enanthate/EQ injection).

 

[lawnsaver]

HCG is like changing your oil in your car every 3k miles. It should only be used as preventive maintenance. What I mean is that the 2 methods above are fine, they work most of the time reverting testicular atrophy, but sometime the atrophy become permanent. It happened to me 2 years ago

Through a very valuable thread on www.anasci.com Swale turned me on to a new way to use HCG. Take 500ius every Saturday and Sunday throughout the cycle. This will prevent any atrophy from setting in.

His thought process is that why wait for atrophy to set in and then try and fix it? As with me, I couldnt fix it. If I was to have been taking the HCG throughout my cycle, I would never have had atrophy to revert. Now I am left with 1 good testicle.

HCG is priceless when doing cycles over 8 weeks and any cycle containing Fina, anadrol, or deca, which are all progestins. Progestins are the hardest on the HPTA.

Although the methods above will work 95% of the time to revert atrophy, there will be sometimes it wont, and thats where this new dosing schedule comes in to protect that 5%.

 

[JohnyJuice]

HCG is like changing your oil in your car every 3k miles. It should only be used as preventive maintenance. What I mean is that the 2 methods above are fine, they work most of the time reverting testicular atrophy, but sometime the atrophy become permanent. It happened to me 2 years ago

Through a very valuable thread on www.anasci.com Swale turned me on to a new way to use HCG. Take 500ius every Saturday and Sunday throughout the cycle. This will prevent any atrophy from setting in.

His thought process is that why wait for atrophy to set in and then try and fix it? As with me, I couldnt fix it. If I was to have been taking the HCG throughout my cycle, I would never have had atrophy to revert. Now I am left with 1 good testicle.

HCG is priceless when doing cycles over 8 weeks and any cycle containing Fina, anadrol, or deca, which are all progestins. Progestins are the hardest on the HPTA.

Although the methods above will work 95% of the time to revert atrophy, there will be sometimes it wont, and thats where this new dosing schedule comes in to protect that 5%.

Good point. Mybe you should change your handle to SackSaver? Seiously though, i appreciate the input. I think this is the method i will stick with. I like my balls the way they are... big, beefy and bouncy.

 

[lawnsaver]

Good point. Mybe you should change your handle to SackSaver? Seiously though, i appreciate the input. I think this is the method i will stick with. I like my balls the way they are... big, beefy and bouncy.

Funny! It is a subject close to my nuts...I mean heart. Seriously, it will work well and you dont have to worry about the chance of the atrophy not reverting!

 

[Gretak9]

Lawnsaver,
I've seen your posts before and I respect them all. I'll be starting my cycle in the next few days and I still haven't ironed out the hcg dosage yet. From your experience what if any are the drawbacks to using hcg this way? My cycle will be about 12 weeks including the winny while the oils leave my system. WOuld 1000iu/wk (500iu on sat and 500iu on sun) be ok to run from say week 3 through 13? I only have 2 5000iu amps on the way.

 

[lawnsaver]

Lawnsaver,
I've seen your posts before and I respect them all. I'll be starting my cycle in the next few days and I still haven't ironed out the hcg dosage yet. From your experience what if any are the drawbacks to using hcg this way? My cycle will be about 12 weeks including the winny while the oils leave my system. WOuld 1000iu/wk (500iu on sat and 500iu on sun) be ok to run from say week 3 through 13? I only have 2 5000iu amps on the way.

Absolutely!! I highly doubt any atrophy will set in, within 2 weeks. I can not see any negative drawbacks. I think it will actually add to your gains! The dose is to low to yield any negative sides. It will only keep and nice little signal of LH going to your testicle, which will keep them pumping throughout!!

 

[Juice Authority]

Hell yes! Especially if you're hitting the Androgens hard like Sustanon 250 and Anadrol, etc...HCG helped my nuts drop again. For a while there I thought I lost them. Atrophy's a Bitch! Take the HCG...you won't regret it.

 

[mcgirkz]

Good point. Mybe you should change your handle to SackSaver? I like my balls the way they are... big, beefy and bouncy.

too funny
good point though lawnsaver. i would like to try it my next time around

 

[pajaro loco]

How effective is HCG combined with clomid?

EXCELLENT and a must at the end of your cycle

 

[lawnsaver]

Re: Re: Is HCG worth it?

EXCELLENT and a must at the end of your cycle

I wouldnt use it after, but maybe the last 2 weeks! This works most of the time, but with my proposed dosing schedule, you wouldnt have to revert any atrophy as you would not have let it set in!

 

[Big Moose]

Too lazy to read entire post, however, I finished my last cyle about a month and a half ago. I took 500mg ed for about 11-13 days of HCG and then started my clomid. I am almost done with the clomid and feel great. I have never felt this good after cyle and believe that my test is pretty much restored. I am also using proviron and nolva.