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Dirk Howat
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In the Rig Veda you have Aryanman, some scholars thought it
men "Aryan hood personified" by in my take is like Manu type of God
the tribal begettor god of the Arya, the people of the Vedas.
Then I remember I came across this word Gauls used "Ariomannus"
Then you have the Gothic name Airmanareiks (Airman + reiks
(power/ruler). Lit, the power of Airman or the ruler of Airman.
Aryaman (they called themselves arya ).
Ariomannus,
Ariovistus - historical individual.
Airmanareiks (Ermanaric) historical individual.
IMO, this would translate to:
Airmanareiks
Irmin - ric
Arya
Ario
Air
Ir
Irmin the god as the sybol of the begetor of the people.
Ruler or power of Irmin, the Sky God of the tree symbolizing cosmic
expansion as Irminsul, the pillar of Irmin, the original Teutonic
Sky god.
Thus you archaic Teutonic religion
Skt Aryaman
Zorastrain Airyaman
Gaul Ariomanus
Gothic Airmanreiks
Ireland Ermon
Anglo Saxon Irmin
For all our sons, good wives.
For all our daughters, good husbands.
For all our people, happiness and health
in a land ruled by just law:
Aryamen, we pray to you.
Dyéus Patér and Aryamen are often linked together, here is a prayer
for them both:
Dyéus Patér Aryamenkwe:
May what we do be according to the Dhétis.
May what we accomplish conform to the Artus.
Dyeus Pater and Aryaman
Tiuz Fader and Irmin
The Meaning of Air
In Hitite, it means belonging to one's own group,peer, friend.
In old irish aire means free, noble.
In general, when one wants to understand the origins of a language
or a religion, the earliest texts, linguistic meaning are most
valuable. Thus, Hititte being older, Airoman would mean the god of
our group. In gothic, something like, the god of our kuni(kind),
Airmanreiks, or the power of our kuni, the ruler of our kuni.
So if this was the god of our thjod, then you would look for some
degree of a latter afteraffect relevence.
Rigsthula, Rig(ON Rik, Gothic Reiks) begets man.
This god would be the ruler of the kuni, of that kind.
It is not far to understand that Rig/Rik/Reiks is Airmanoreiks,
Aryaman. The god who begets the Arya/Airo/Ir - mans.
Earliest is Veda society where Manu (lit man) gave laws as the Laws
of Manu which relates establishing society according to their way,
to contracts of god and man, man and man, and man and women. Rig in
ON, taught Jarl, knowledge, taught him runes, the mysteries of
existence.
Thus, the God Generator begets man, his kuni, and is his link to the
divine. Irman the god of the thuida, begets man and gives him god-
law.
The problem lie in early self indentification.
Early in India, they called themselves Arya as stated in the Rig
Veda. What would this be in a Teutonic context? Ir. Or better yet,
Irmins.
We must look at Germania:
In their old ballads (which amongst them are the only sort of
registers and history) they celebrate Tuisto, a God sprung from the
earth, and Mannus his son, as the fathers and founders of the
nation. To Mannus they assign three sons, after whose names so many
people are called; the Ingaevones, dwelling next the ocean; the
Herminones, in the middle country; and all the rest, Instaevones.
Some, borrowing a warrant from the darkness of antiquity, maintain
that the God had more sons, that thence came more denominations of
people, the Marsians, Gambrians, Suevians, and Vandalians, and that
these are the names truly genuine and original.
Tiuz - The original PIE sky god, in Rigsthula as Reiks, the Ruler
proper, the god, begets three kuni, Thrall, Karl, Jarl. Jarl is the
favored and taught god knowlege, i.e. runes which really symbolizes
the way of god, the knowledge of existence and God. He is the man.
If you were Hebrew, he would be choosen. In Germania, Tacitus
states it is Tuisto, surely Tiews, who begets Mannus (see Arya Laws
of Manu), and from there has three sons. One being none other then
Herminones which is the Irmins, or something to that affect. As the
favored people in Rigsthula and looking at the absence of the other
names (Instaevones, Ingaevones/Vanir) you would believe that Hititte
Ariyaman, Sanskrit Aryaman, Gaul Ariomanus, Gothic Airmanreiks, OS
Irman, and the absence of extant relevence, importance to the other
kuni, that:
the proto-Germanic religion is originated from (in Germania terms):
Tuisto
Mannus
Herminones
The Instaevones, Ingaevones/Vanir people, if Tacitus is fully
accurate, are not proper in, i.e. foreign to, Teutonic religion, and
maybe not even Indo-European at all.
So from Germania to Gothic:
Tiews
Mans (not sure) but most probably Airmanareiks
Airman
Then in Gothic you have this word:
Mana-seth
man - seed
So our would, or heim, gard, could be called a manaseth in Gothic.
Which corresponds to Rig doing his seeding-deed in Rigsthula to
create us.
Which, IMO, relates to Tiews/Airmanareiks begetting the Irmins or Aryans.
Earliest extant
Sanskrit, Hititte, Zorastrian
Aryaman
Manu (laws of man establishing godlaws, the right, rita)
ADVERTISEMENT
Linguistic Proof (earliest to latest, using logical consistentcy).
Dyaus Pitar
Aryaman
Manu (Laws of Manu from Aryaman creating Arya as a
spiritual/material connection to god.)
Arya
Germania:
Tuisto
Mannus
Herminones
Gothic:
Airmanareiks
Mana-seth
Old Norse:
Rigr
Jarl (the Noble man, rather then Thrall/Slave, Karl/farmer).
Logical construction leads to:
Irmin/Teiws (god of law among other attributes).
Irminsul (the pillar of god/irmin, the tree of life, the tree of
god, i.e. world, as the expansion of space and time creating
existence, Trees expand and grow as does our cosmos)
Irminaric (the power of god being manifest in space in time)
Manaseth (creating a kuni with his man-seed, the result being)
Irmins (which in gothic are thuida, or people living in Gutthiuda,
the people flowing from god from his manaseth if Gutthiuda means
land of the Gotic people and Goth means to pour out)
From their perspective and god, they are man (mannus/madr) and
people (thuida/thjod). But their self identification is with god as
in Herminones/ Irmins.
From another context:
Irmin/Irmins
God/Gods
men "Aryan hood personified" by in my take is like Manu type of God
the tribal begettor god of the Arya, the people of the Vedas.
Then I remember I came across this word Gauls used "Ariomannus"
Then you have the Gothic name Airmanareiks (Airman + reiks
(power/ruler). Lit, the power of Airman or the ruler of Airman.
Aryaman (they called themselves arya ).
Ariomannus,
Ariovistus - historical individual.
Airmanareiks (Ermanaric) historical individual.
IMO, this would translate to:
Airmanareiks
Irmin - ric
Arya
Ario
Air
Ir
Irmin the god as the sybol of the begetor of the people.
Ruler or power of Irmin, the Sky God of the tree symbolizing cosmic
expansion as Irminsul, the pillar of Irmin, the original Teutonic
Sky god.
Thus you archaic Teutonic religion
Skt Aryaman
Zorastrain Airyaman
Gaul Ariomanus
Gothic Airmanreiks
Ireland Ermon
Anglo Saxon Irmin
For all our sons, good wives.
For all our daughters, good husbands.
For all our people, happiness and health
in a land ruled by just law:
Aryamen, we pray to you.
Dyéus Patér and Aryamen are often linked together, here is a prayer
for them both:
Dyéus Patér Aryamenkwe:
May what we do be according to the Dhétis.
May what we accomplish conform to the Artus.
Dyeus Pater and Aryaman
Tiuz Fader and Irmin
The Meaning of Air
In Hitite, it means belonging to one's own group,peer, friend.
In old irish aire means free, noble.
In general, when one wants to understand the origins of a language
or a religion, the earliest texts, linguistic meaning are most
valuable. Thus, Hititte being older, Airoman would mean the god of
our group. In gothic, something like, the god of our kuni(kind),
Airmanreiks, or the power of our kuni, the ruler of our kuni.
So if this was the god of our thjod, then you would look for some
degree of a latter afteraffect relevence.
Rigsthula, Rig(ON Rik, Gothic Reiks) begets man.
This god would be the ruler of the kuni, of that kind.
It is not far to understand that Rig/Rik/Reiks is Airmanoreiks,
Aryaman. The god who begets the Arya/Airo/Ir - mans.
Earliest is Veda society where Manu (lit man) gave laws as the Laws
of Manu which relates establishing society according to their way,
to contracts of god and man, man and man, and man and women. Rig in
ON, taught Jarl, knowledge, taught him runes, the mysteries of
existence.
Thus, the God Generator begets man, his kuni, and is his link to the
divine. Irman the god of the thuida, begets man and gives him god-
law.
The problem lie in early self indentification.
Early in India, they called themselves Arya as stated in the Rig
Veda. What would this be in a Teutonic context? Ir. Or better yet,
Irmins.
We must look at Germania:
In their old ballads (which amongst them are the only sort of
registers and history) they celebrate Tuisto, a God sprung from the
earth, and Mannus his son, as the fathers and founders of the
nation. To Mannus they assign three sons, after whose names so many
people are called; the Ingaevones, dwelling next the ocean; the
Herminones, in the middle country; and all the rest, Instaevones.
Some, borrowing a warrant from the darkness of antiquity, maintain
that the God had more sons, that thence came more denominations of
people, the Marsians, Gambrians, Suevians, and Vandalians, and that
these are the names truly genuine and original.
Tiuz - The original PIE sky god, in Rigsthula as Reiks, the Ruler
proper, the god, begets three kuni, Thrall, Karl, Jarl. Jarl is the
favored and taught god knowlege, i.e. runes which really symbolizes
the way of god, the knowledge of existence and God. He is the man.
If you were Hebrew, he would be choosen. In Germania, Tacitus
states it is Tuisto, surely Tiews, who begets Mannus (see Arya Laws
of Manu), and from there has three sons. One being none other then
Herminones which is the Irmins, or something to that affect. As the
favored people in Rigsthula and looking at the absence of the other
names (Instaevones, Ingaevones/Vanir) you would believe that Hititte
Ariyaman, Sanskrit Aryaman, Gaul Ariomanus, Gothic Airmanreiks, OS
Irman, and the absence of extant relevence, importance to the other
kuni, that:
the proto-Germanic religion is originated from (in Germania terms):
Tuisto
Mannus
Herminones
The Instaevones, Ingaevones/Vanir people, if Tacitus is fully
accurate, are not proper in, i.e. foreign to, Teutonic religion, and
maybe not even Indo-European at all.
So from Germania to Gothic:
Tiews
Mans (not sure) but most probably Airmanareiks
Airman
Then in Gothic you have this word:
Mana-seth
man - seed
So our would, or heim, gard, could be called a manaseth in Gothic.
Which corresponds to Rig doing his seeding-deed in Rigsthula to
create us.
Which, IMO, relates to Tiews/Airmanareiks begetting the Irmins or Aryans.
Earliest extant
Sanskrit, Hititte, Zorastrian
Aryaman
Manu (laws of man establishing godlaws, the right, rita)
ADVERTISEMENT
Linguistic Proof (earliest to latest, using logical consistentcy).
Dyaus Pitar
Aryaman
Manu (Laws of Manu from Aryaman creating Arya as a
spiritual/material connection to god.)
Arya
Germania:
Tuisto
Mannus
Herminones
Gothic:
Airmanareiks
Mana-seth
Old Norse:
Rigr
Jarl (the Noble man, rather then Thrall/Slave, Karl/farmer).
Logical construction leads to:
Irmin/Teiws (god of law among other attributes).
Irminsul (the pillar of god/irmin, the tree of life, the tree of
god, i.e. world, as the expansion of space and time creating
existence, Trees expand and grow as does our cosmos)
Irminaric (the power of god being manifest in space in time)
Manaseth (creating a kuni with his man-seed, the result being)
Irmins (which in gothic are thuida, or people living in Gutthiuda,
the people flowing from god from his manaseth if Gutthiuda means
land of the Gotic people and Goth means to pour out)
From their perspective and god, they are man (mannus/madr) and
people (thuida/thjod). But their self identification is with god as
in Herminones/ Irmins.
From another context:
Irmin/Irmins
God/Gods
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