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Is fina a 17-aa AS????

Heck, I think I might try it in a couple of days. I'm about ready to start the Tren but haven't prepared it yet. One bad thing though is that I'm currently on test also, so I couldn't truly measure it's effectivness.
What are your opinions on adding the Tren to skoal or something similar, like Enigmaxxx7 stated? do you think it'll help absorb more?
 
So is it any more harmful to take it orally that shoot it? Internally how could it effect organs, tissues, is it any more toxic?
 
Re: Yeah

me2dammit said:
my old results post, I couldn't find it when I looked for it.

Looking at it makes me think it was so long ago.

Now if the post that I posted with the animal studies would suface you would see where I get my numbers of at least 30% absortion. I had it in the new to fina catagory in some oral fina post.

60mgs a day is not bad at all off of 10 pellets.

Since people are gaining 10,15,20 lbs of oral tren, these people have to be getting more than 10-20% absortion. Now when someone only gains 5lbs and diet and training were on, does that mean absortion was low? Maybe, or maybe they are just like those who inject and get the same thing, there bodies just respond differently.

The only thing to debate about oral fina is cost. Thats it. Maybe 6 months ago more people were like it doesnt work, now the only thing they can talk about is cost.

But at 35$ for a 10 day supply, and for most recreational users that being the only drug you might need, its still cheap as hell.

It would be very interesting for a study to be done on how tren is metabolized when taken orally. The shit is a mystery to me. When I first was getting involved with tren the oral numbers were 0-10% absortion, now they keep creeping up as more people report 10,15,20# gains and freakish strength.

I know pat arnold also said it is better taken orally than transdermal. He stated something about trens structure making it work when taken orally, but having to take it 4 times a day. Well me and most people have taken it 2 times a day with fantastic results so 4 may be stretching it. But like I said, nobody really knows that much about oral tren yet.

Hell is the shit gets any cheaper and more people realize oral works people will probaly carry the shit around like tic-tacs.
Sounds awesome. Just 2 times a day at 60mg. I will try stacking this w/ injection and see how it bumps up my strength and mass. How was your sides? Back pains, foul odor or darker urine, or increased agitation?
 
I've tried oral fina and also fina with DMSO. Results:
Fina with DMSO, applied before bedtime on my ancle. Put on a tablespoon of DMSO on one ankle, Chruched up 3 tabs and mixed with the DMSO. Wrapped up my ankle with plastic foil(saran wrap??). Went to bed and in the morning I removed the plastic wrap and left was, nothing but some water.
After one week my muscles were hard as rocks, but no strength gains. My pumps vere amazing. 2 weeks and bodyweight up about 2lb, bodyfat down. Strength on my bench up 8-10lb. 3 week and bodyweight up even more, also fat had dropped about 1.5-2%. My ankle started to itch a bit. A couple of days later I woke up with my ankle and foot red as a tomato. It had spots all over with fluid in them, about 1 bilion of them. I got scared and went to the ER. They diagnosed me with Poison Allergi. Results: Bench up 18lb, bw up 5-6lb, dropped fat about 2.5%. Side effects: Poison Allergi not from the DMSO but from the fina. I got fina-dick after about 4 days, I mean not like it was hard to get up, It was impossible. It was DEAD! Also VERY tired...Nice work ey ;)

Oral:
Tried 6 pellets taken orally. # in the morning and 3 before bedtime. I chruched them and put them under my tongue. I kept them there for 10 minutes without swallowing. After 10 minutes I swollowed and almosed pucked. Tip: NEVER drink cold water after doing this, It will make you think your mouth is on fire. I waited 5 minutes and then drank some water. Resluts. It took me 2 weeks to notice this "rock hard muscles". After 2 weeks I sterted gaining strength, nothing much. 3 weeks in and I started to drop fat like crazy. I bumped my calorie intake and gained about 2lb that weeks and dropped a lot of fat. Nights were almost killing me and it felt like I was doing DNP. Did a 4 week cycle and then stopped.
Results: Bench up some 10lb, bw up 2-3lb, fat down a few %. Awsome pumpsSides: Fina dick again, always tired.

I know now that one should never do fina oral or with DMSO alone, without some test.

When I look back on it I must say I will never do it orally or with DMSO again. It seems so much easier and better(of course) to inject the fina.
 
I am here simpl to add

I understand that oral (and transdermal) methods were somewhat of a pain in the rear BUT for those of us who can't stand the thought of doing ED or even EOD injections; it seems like a very do-able thing! I get so sick and tired of people saying "just inject"! It gets on my f'cking nerves! MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO INJECT EVERY DAMN DAY or MAYBE I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JUSTIFIABLE REASON AS TO WHY (MY F'ING BUSINESS BY THE WAY) I DON'T WANT TO! There are plenty of bro's in my position who are content with knowing THERE ARE INDEED OTHER METHODS OF delivery for such an awesome AS such as Tren!

I work out for recreational reasons and DO NOT enjoy sticking myself ED or EOD for that matter! That's my F'ing business and I'm NOT on this board LOOKING TO WIN OVER THE MASSES OR PLEASE ANYONE OVER FOR THAT MATTER! I am in NO WAY seeking the approval of anyone on this board! I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!

Sorry, a little OFF the subject I know, BUT...I'm just sick of people calling other people on this board pussies and whatever else because some people DO NOT ENJOY ed injections! Grow the F'ck up and realize the boards are for educational purposes, NOT for bragging grounds on how many times per day you can stick a needle in your ass! Besides, I would say that only about 5% or less of the members have the physiques to compete anyway. ED or EOD injections JUST DON'T SEEM like they're worth it! IMHO!

For the love of God! Do what's right and comfortable for you!!!! F'ck everyone else! There are a myriad of AS that you can choose from that would only require 1x/week injections!!! So F'ck it! That's what I will plan to do for the rest of my recreational bodybuilding career-rely on these weekly or twice weekly injections!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Re: I am here simpl to add

drveejay11 said:
I understand that oral (and transdermal) methods were somewhat of a pain in the rear BUT for those of us who can't stand the thought of doing ED or even EOD injections; it seems like a very do-able thing! I get so sick and tired of people saying "just inject"! It gets on my f'cking nerves! MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO INJECT EVERY DAMN DAY or MAYBE I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT JUSTIFIABLE REASON AS TO WHY (MY F'ING BUSINESS BY THE WAY) I DON'T WANT TO! There are plenty of bro's in my position who are content with knowing THERE ARE INDEED OTHER METHODS OF delivery for such an awesome AS such as Tren!

I work out for recreational reasons and DO NOT enjoy sticking myself ED or EOD for that matter! That's my F'ing business and I'm NOT on this board LOOKING TO WIN OVER THE MASSES OR PLEASE ANYONE OVER FOR THAT MATTER! I am in NO WAY seeking the approval of anyone on this board! I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!

Sorry, a little OFF the subject I know, BUT...I'm just sick of people calling other people on this board pussies and whatever else because some people DO NOT ENJOY ed injections! Grow the F'ck up and realize the boards are for educational purposes, NOT for bragging grounds on how many times per day you can stick a needle in your ass! Besides, I would say that only about 5% or less of the members have the physiques to compete anyway. ED or EOD injections JUST DON'T SEEM like they're worth it! IMHO!

For the love of God! Do what's right and comfortable for you!!!! F'ck everyone else! There are a myriad of AS that you can choose from that would only require 1x/week injections!!! So F'ck it! That's what I will plan to do for the rest of my recreational bodybuilding career-rely on these weekly or twice weekly injections!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

LOL.....you should have seen the amount of flak I caught
doing orals-only.

It does get to be a drag(injecting), specially in the
morning when you're tired.

Fonz
 
Re: I am here simpl to add

drveejay11 said:
I am here to add where I am able to add advice/opinions/support and to educate myself from all the knowledge that is present on this board and sometmes masked by all the stupidity!

HEY! Was that aimed towards me!?!?:)

Nah, I agree with you. I hate injecting any more than I have to. I think when I start Tren I'll inject 2 times per week (when I inject my test) and the rest of the days I'll take it in orally. Everyone should do what feels comfortable to him/her. It's his/her body!


And it seems to that when I begin a cycle I can inject everyday, but as the cycle goes on, I get less and less fond of sticking myself. -Mainly due to the scar tissue build-up which makes it hurt more.
 
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