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Is fina a 17-aa AS????

this is the same as doing Loeffler's oral trenbolone, right?

it's just like primo tabs where much more than the desired dose should be taken?
 
The Architect said:
Me and a friend both tried oral tren. I crushed the pellets and put them under the tongue while he just swollowed them whole.
Within a 6 week period we both gained about 10+ pounds.
Now the question- is one way better than the other? I thought my route would have gave me better absorbtion, but we both had similar results.
Nice bro...maybe staking oral tren w/ injectable tren? lol and how much was the dosages u were taking bro? and what times.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Yes,I have changed my stance on this over the past half year or so,due to how many different folks I have seen have very good success with it.I do believe that injection gives far serious more delivery/results,but I also believe that tren can be used successfully orally as well.An old vet of the board I respect just recently e-mailed me to tell me that he is having tremendous results with it orally,and he has done both the injectible/transdermal route.It is non c-17aa,so hepatic stress will be nothing like our standard orals.Most of the feedback I've gotten has been very positive,and I must say I was surprised,I simply didn't think it would work.Live and learn.

Holy Shit...It's nice to know Huck backs it! REAL NICE TO KNOW! That's almost the same as scientific evidence!:fro:
 
drveejay11 said:
Then explain to me "how" the people that are taking it orally are getting ANY results whatsoever??? If the active component (Tren) isnot protested from breakdown, "0" would be uptaken! So what the hell is going on here? And don't say placebo...too many cases of positive experiences!

taking fina orally will yeild results, but its bioavalability is very low. and no its not C-17 ALKYLATED
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Yes,I have changed my stance on this over the past half year or so,due to how many different folks I have seen have very good success with it.I do believe that injection gives far serious more delivery/results,but I also believe that tren can be used successfully orally as well.An old vet of the board I respect just recently e-mailed me to tell me that he is having tremendous results with it orally,and he has done both the injectible/transdermal route.It is non c-17aa,so hepatic stress will be nothing like our standard orals.Most of the feedback I've gotten has been very positive,and I must say I was surprised,I simply didn't think it would work.Live and learn.

How to use Tren orally:

1. Crush it up.
2. Use a kit and convert it, BUT DO NOT PUT THE OIL
3. Buy cyclodextrin powder.
4. Mix the two.
5. Let dry.

What do we have:

1. Sub-lingual Trenbolone with about a 30% delivery

This is about 3X as effective as just popping the pills.
(Which DO WORK, but at roughly 10%. This has been
discussed at AF).

Fonz
 
Nice Fonz. By the way, what the hell is cyclodextrin powder and what does it do (how does it deliver?) and where do you get it.

P.S. It's good to see Mods change a point of view if they really see evidence or something and don't just sit on a point of view because of old thinking or just because they don't want to appear "wrong" in a previous theory. As we have already found out many times, we don't exactly know what AS will do all the time. We have a good idea based on science and theory, but we dont always know the outcomes until we try them. Example: I remember when there was NO WAY Fina could cause gyno. That has since been blown out of the water.
 
Enigmaxxx7 said:
Nice Fonz. By the way, what the hell is cyclodextrin powder and what does it do (how does it deliver?) and where do you get it.

P.S. It's good to see Mods change a point of view if they really see evidence or something and don't just sit on a point of view because of old thinking or just because they don't want to appear "wrong" in a previous theory. As we have already found out many times, we don't exactly know what AS will do all the time. We have a good idea based on science and theory, but we dont always know the outcomes until we try them. Example: I remember when there was NO WAY Fina could cause gyno. That has since been blown out of the water.

That is how we move forward buddy.A closed mind keeps us in the dark ages.Some are willing to think outside the box,while others stay trapped within it.Fonz might be on to something here:We may have to find an individual who will be willing(although discreetly,lol)to market such a solution.It would be fun to experiment with such an item!
 
Yeah

my old results post, I couldn't find it when I looked for it.

Looking at it makes me think it was so long ago.

Now if the post that I posted with the animal studies would suface you would see where I get my numbers of at least 30% absortion. I had it in the new to fina catagory in some oral fina post.

60mgs a day is not bad at all off of 10 pellets.

Since people are gaining 10,15,20 lbs of oral tren, these people have to be getting more than 10-20% absortion. Now when someone only gains 5lbs and diet and training were on, does that mean absortion was low? Maybe, or maybe they are just like those who inject and get the same thing, there bodies just respond differently.

The only thing to debate about oral fina is cost. Thats it. Maybe 6 months ago more people were like it doesnt work, now the only thing they can talk about is cost.

But at 35$ for a 10 day supply, and for most recreational users that being the only drug you might need, its still cheap as hell.

It would be very interesting for a study to be done on how tren is metabolized when taken orally. The shit is a mystery to me. When I first was getting involved with tren the oral numbers were 0-10% absortion, now they keep creeping up as more people report 10,15,20# gains and freakish strength.

I know pat arnold also said it is better taken orally than transdermal. He stated something about trens structure making it work when taken orally, but having to take it 4 times a day. Well me and most people have taken it 2 times a day with fantastic results so 4 may be stretching it. But like I said, nobody really knows that much about oral tren yet.

Hell is the shit gets any cheaper and more people realize oral works people will probaly carry the shit around like tic-tacs.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


That is how we move forward buddy.A closed mind keeps us in the dark ages.Some are willing to think outside the box,while others stay trapped within it.Fonz might be on to something here:We may have to find an individual who will be willing(although discreetly,lol)to market such a solution.It would be fun to experiment with such an item!


Yeah, tell us more about this cyclodextrin powder. I'm always ready to be a guinea pig. Hey seriously, I kinda was joking yesterday but then I started thinking about it.....breakdown the fina pellets with BA just like preparing it for injection. Then filter it into a dip of Skoal and let the nicotine carry it into your blood stream. Seems like the absorption would be higher than just crushing the pellets and holding it under your tongue due to the BA and nicotine. Yes? No? Maybe? Huck? Fonz?

Fuckit I think I'm gonna try. I just finished my cycle 3 weeks ago so I'll wait 2 or 3 more months and try it without stacking anything to see how effective it is.
 
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