Is dos/caber REALLY required on Tren ace/enth/hex???

[socalmuscle]

yes or no? discuss... and give reasons too

also would it matter if using test? and the amount (mg) per week affect the outcome?

 

[access]

Dostinex is used primarily to reduce Prolactin which can increase when using Tren. It's one of the ingredients that can cause a gyno flare up. The others being progesterone and estrogen. All 3 should be minimized and I always include Test when I am running Tren and typically a little higher than the Tren dose.

 

[79steeler]

I ran tren hex at 320mg/wk, and 500mg/wk test E. I did not use dostinex. I never had any problems. I am not gyno prone and generally get very little sides from gear.

Please keep in mind that everyone is differant, and you should have it on hand just in case. I also hear so many positive sexual sides from it that it might be worth it just for that reason. Hornier, better erections, and better orgasms for some bro's are enough to convince me to try it next time I run tren.

I also have to say that when running tren hex and test I was very aggressive sexually and had some of the best erections and orgasms of my life without dostinex.

 

[HAYEZ]

ive ran tren at 125mg eod and didnt need it whole time ... took 2 or 3 doses over 10 weeks..
currently doing tren 100 ace 100mg ed and deca 600mg ew and using .25 e3d..think i may drop it after this next week..havent had any sides

 

[access]

I ran tren hex at 320mg/wk, and 500mg/wk test E. I did not use dostinex. I never had any problems. I am not gyno prone and generally get very little sides from gear.

Please keep in mind that everyone is differant, and you should have it on hand just in case. I also hear so many positive sexual sides from it that it might be worth it just for that reason. Hornier, better erections, and better orgasms for some bro's are enough to convince me to try it next time I run tren.

I also have to say that when running tren hex and test I was very aggressive sexually and had some of the best erections and orgasms of my life without dostinex.

Higher Prolactin levels generally indicate sexual dysfunction so seems your not prone to this at all. As you mention everyone responds a little (or a lot) differently and that's good to keep in mind.

 

[DaveTSI]

I wouldnt do a cycle of tren/deca without having some on hand personally. Sexual sides from prolactin fuckin suck, gyno has never been a problem for me. Its not a must, but when you cant get wood one day or keep it youll regret it bro lol

 

[gjohnson5]

It depends on the person. Progestins can reduce dopamine production in the the dopamine / prolactin negative feed back loop in the hypothalamus. Some people develop hyperprolactenemia from progestins and some don't

Better safe then sorry I guess

 

[HAYEZ]

I wouldnt do a cycle of tren/deca without having some on hand personally. Sexual sides from prolactin fuckin suck, gyno has never been a problem for me. Its not a must, but when you cant get wood one day or keep it youll regret it bro lol

i have plenty on hand.. think that scares me about caber is the heart valve side effects..

 

[gjohnson5]

i have plenty on hand.. think that scares me about caber is the heart valve side effects..

I believe ALL the dopamine agonists have heart valve related side effects. Dostinex / cabaser heart valve issue is only an issue with extended use with high dosages

 

[DaveTSI]

yeah, the doses we use (.25/.5mg every 3-5days) arent enough to cause concern if you ask me. The studies done, that ive seen, where patients developed heart problems had them using 10mg of cabaser

 

[HAYEZ]

yes ive read that also...still makes me use it as less as possible..side effects to the heart are somethign i really dont want to mess with...liver or kidneys is one thing but you deztroy ur heart ur done.. used it since day 1 on this cycle but low doses...was gonna drop it and see if anythign happens..if anything goes on can always go back on

 

[socalmuscle]

thanks bros, these are the answers I was looking for from some knowledgeable EFers