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Is DNP legal?

punkindrublic

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Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?
I read that ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin thermogenic stack raised the body's metabolism by 3% while DNP raised it 50% (so much so there is a risk of cooking from the inside out).
So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?
Please no dickhead warnings about DNP, dont like it make your own thread, stay off this one
 
punkindrublic said:
Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?
I read that ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin thermogenic stack raised the body's metabolism by 3% while DNP raised it 50% (so much so there is a risk of cooking from the inside out).
So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?
Please no dickhead warnings about DNP, dont like it make your own thread, stay off this one


you just named the drastic side effects of using DNP, but you still wish to use it? WHY???? Are you a competitive bodybuilder needing to get down to 3% BF? If not then there are, as you already know, MUCH safer ways to get lean. It might take a little longer and be a little more difficult, but thats part of the fun, seeing how dedicated to your goals you can be. Everyone wants to find the easy way out, which is why many venture into AAS use in the first place. The reality is until you learn how to manage your diet and training you will NEVER look the way you want in the long run.
 
VascularitY said:
you just named the drastic side effects of using DNP, but you still wish to use it? WHY???? Are you a competitive bodybuilder needing to get down to 3% BF? If not then there are, as you already know, MUCH safer ways to get lean. It might take a little longer and be a little more difficult, but thats part of the fun, seeing how dedicated to your goals you can be. Everyone wants to find the easy way out, which is why many venture into AAS use in the first place. The reality is until you learn how to manage your diet and training you will NEVER look the way you want in the long run.

What is this, 20 questions?
Go change your tampons on someone else's thread if you dont have a reply to my query. Its pretty straightforward
 
punkindrublic said:
Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?
I read that ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin thermogenic stack raised the body's metabolism by 3% while DNP raised it 50% (so much so there is a risk of cooking from the inside out).
So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?
Please no dickhead warnings about DNP, dont like it make your own thread, stay off this one


Im assuming you have no idea what it takes to actually measure and cap this stuff do you........or you wouldn't be thinking about buying the powder and making it yourself

its not like buying anavar powder and weighing and capping it bro
 
punkindrublic said:
Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?
I read that ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin thermogenic stack raised the body's metabolism by 3% while DNP raised it 50% (so much so there is a risk of cooking from the inside out).
So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?
Please no dickhead warnings about DNP, dont like it make your own thread, stay off this one

DNP is a high explosive, so getting it from a chemical supplier (if you find one that sells it), could be suspicious behavior.
 
I suggest getting it from ACME co. Always worked for Wylie Coyote, great products and turn around time........... (I hope everyone can see this is a joke)
 
got so caught up I forgot to answer the question. Yes, you can buy it for research purposes (I know some college chem labs use it) However, post 9/11 FBI etc. would be pretty tuned in to an individual buying a chemical used in dynamite.
 
who's the genius that first used this shit.....Who's the fucking genius that decided using bugspray as a fat burner...?
 
Big O said:
who's the genius that first used this shit.....Who's the fucking genius that decided using bugspray as a fat burner...?

Actually my understanding is that the fatburning effects were discovered by accident. Workers handling dynamite absorbed it through their skin. It was actually marketed as a fatburner in the early 20th Century, lot of people don't know that. But... of course there were a lot of people frying themselves because it's so easy to overdose on so it was pulled.
 
pesticided. 'nuff said. Leave that stuff to the people who need to be at 3% bf to win their $100k grand prize show
 
It is not legal for interstate transport (i.e. state to state transportation) due to its potential as an explosive. Be careful.
 
win19 said:
DNP is a high explosive, so getting it from a chemical supplier (if you find one that sells it), could be suspicious behavior.

its used for a lot of things, wood dye, insecticide, etc. most chem houses will sell to you, local ones at least, if you have a legitimate business
 
punkindrublic said:
Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?
I read that ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin thermogenic stack raised the body's metabolism by 3% while DNP raised it 50% (so much so there is a risk of cooking from the inside out).
So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?
Please no dickhead warnings about DNP, dont like it make your own thread, stay off this one
you asked "Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?"...."So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?"
means you have no business using it becuase yet to date you have not researched it enough.If you had knowledge of dnp and how to use it your would already know the anwsers to those questions.

but if you want to push on and use it be carefull becuase if you measure the dose wrong. Off by just a few milligrams its a very painful death no chance for hospitilazation your brian and organs are cooked and its not pretty.To anwser the question it can be bought online through most research chemical supplu house websites just google it and you'll see.

here is a local dept of state health issue stament about dnp
STATE HEALTH COMMISSIONER WARNS OF DANGERS OF WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCT
DEADLY DINITROPHENOLS AVAILABLE THROUGH INTERNET SALES

ALBANY, NY, August 10, 2001-- State Health Commissioner Antonia C. Novello today warned against the use of products containing Dinitrophenols or DNP as a supplement for weight loss. The warning results from a report to the Department's Pesticide Poisoning Registry on the recent death of a Long Island resident who had reportedly used DNP for four days.

The young man's death was reported to the State Health Department by the Long Island Poison Control Center, which indicated that the individual apparently ingested 600 milligrams of DNP a day for four days.

DNP is an agricultural pesticide (a herbicide) but is not registered for use in New York State. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, it was sold in the 1930's in diet pills but was banned in 1938 because of severe health effects. Dinitrophenols are toxic to the liver, kidney and nervous system. The chemical causes hyperthermia (increased body temperature), dehydration, tachycardia (rapid heartbeat), restlessness and manic behavior and convulsions which typically signify an immediate lift-threatening intoxication. There are anecdotal reports of other deaths from DNP as a weight loss supplement.

Although DNP use in diet pills was banned in 1938, it is currently being marketed and used by body builders, and is also advertised and marketed on the Internet. The extent of its use is unknown at this time.

The State Health Department has contacted the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to explore ways to warn consumers about the dangers of DNP, to identify product names under which it is being sold and to dissuade its further use. The warning also will be sent to DNP web sites identified by the Department, body builder web sites and body builder magazines.

while your searching for dnp online also do a google for dnp deaths
to see we are not joking
 
Big O said:
who's the genius that first used this shit.....Who's the fucking genius that decided using bugspray as a fat burner...?
Dan duchiane seemed to make it popular once more around 1988 when he introduced it into the bodybuilding world. so he was the genius that got bodybuilders to use it. Dan duchiane was not know to be rational he sometimes suggested all kinds of crazy thing and people did them and for the most part they all semmed to work even if ones life was on the line. dan even used dnp thats how he knew it worked.

I trust that if dan sawthe current stage at what bodybuilding has become he himself would be disgusted becuase even he said bodybuilders back around 1990 were pushing the envelop a little to far 15 years ago
 
macrophage69alpha said:
its used for a lot of things, wood dye, insecticide, etc. most chem houses will sell to you, local ones at least, if you have a legitimate business

Right, alot of uses.Though, I've heard chemists have lists of more suspicious buyers, that's what I meant.I doubt a couple grams will get someone in trouble.I haven't been to a chemist in a long time, so couldn't check on policies and such. I originally wasn't totally sure if chemists actually sold polynitro compound high explosives. Doing a random search, 500g 2,4-DNP (packaged with 35% water) costs $221.25 at http://www.brainerdchemical.com whereas: http://www.sciencelab.com sells the exact same for $95.00!
 
He was my hero.....Going back to the...Underground Steroid Handbook...I think thats how all of us old timers leaRned about the gear....

I started in 1980 or 81 using gear and the USH was my guide....

Guys thanks for straigthening that out for me...
 
chazk said:
you asked "Is this something like where I can go to a pesticide supplier to pick meself up some?"...."So is easy to order that shit or stop by a chemical supplier to get it?"
means you have no business using it becuase yet to date you have not researched it enough.If you had knowledge of dnp and how to use it your would already know the anwsers to those questions.

but if you want to push on and use it be carefull becuase if you measure the dose wrong. Off by just a few milligrams its a very painful death no chance for hospitilazation your brian and organs are cooked and its not pretty.To anwser the question it can be bought online through most research chemical supplu house websites just google it and you'll see.

here is a local dept of state health issue stament about dnp
STATE HEALTH COMMISSIONER WARNS OF DANGERS OF WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCT
DEADLY DINITROPHENOLS AVAILABLE THROUGH INTERNET SALES

ALBANY, NY, August 10, 2001-- State Health Commissioner Antonia C. Novello today warned against the use of products containing Dinitrophenols or DNP as a supplement for weight loss. The warning results from a report to the Department's Pesticide Poisoning Registry on the recent death of a Long Island resident who had reportedly used DNP for four days.

The young man's death was reported to the State Health Department by the Long Island Poison Control Center, which indicated that the individual apparently ingested 600 milligrams of DNP a day for four days.

DNP is an agricultural pesticide (a herbicide) but is not registered for use in New York State. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, it was sold in the 1930's in diet pills but was banned in 1938 because of severe health effects. Dinitrophenols are toxic to the liver, kidney and nervous system. The chemical causes hyperthermia (increased body temperature), dehydration, tachycardia (rapid heartbeat), restlessness and manic behavior and convulsions which typically signify an immediate lift-threatening intoxication. There are anecdotal reports of other deaths from DNP as a weight loss supplement.

Although DNP use in diet pills was banned in 1938, it is currently being marketed and used by body builders, and is also advertised and marketed on the Internet. The extent of its use is unknown at this time.

The State Health Department has contacted the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to explore ways to warn consumers about the dangers of DNP, to identify product names under which it is being sold and to dissuade its further use. The warning also will be sent to DNP web sites identified by the Department, body builder web sites and body builder magazines.

while your searching for dnp online also do a google for dnp deaths
to see we are not joking

Yes, there's a few recently documented ones too.

Two deaths attributed to the use of 2,4-dinitrophenol. J Anal Toxicol. 2006 Apr;30(3):219-22. Miranda EJ, McIntyre IM, Parker DR, Gary RD, Logan BK.

Dying to be thin: a dinitrophenol related fatality. Vet Hum Toxicol. 2004 Oct;46(5):251-4. McFee RB, Caraccio TR, McGuigan MA, Reynolds SA, Bellanger P. The dose this guy took was advertised as "safe".

Pediatric fatality following ingestion of dinitrophenol: postmortem identification of a "dietary supplement". Clin Toxicol (Phila). 2005;43(4):281-5. Hsiao AL, Santucci KA, Seo-Mayer P, Mariappan MR, Hodsdon ME, Banasiak KJ, Baum CR.

DNP 2,4-dinitrophenol: a deadly way to lose weight. JEMS. 2005 Jan;30(1):82-9; quiz 90-1. Suozzi JC, Rancont CM, McFee RB.
 
just for you, mr. drunkinpublic, i'd recommend a gram a day.....

just for you
 
just to clarify, since the "dying to be thin" case played out on the net, pretty sure he was also using a host of stimulants including ecstacy, cocaine and others
 
macrophage69alpha said:
just to clarify, since the "dying to be thin" case played out on the net, pretty sure he was also using a host of stimulants including ecstacy, cocaine and others


So, you have seen the report? But if that is the case and he did use stimulants, even at the dosage he thought was safe, his failure of identifying predisposing factors resulted in death, so taking DNP is like playing with fire, and I should also note, long-term use of DNP is of a serious carcinogenic concern. DNP is reduced and metabolized in the body to 2-amino-4-nitrophenol and 4-amino-2-nitrophenol. And although 2,4-dinitrophenol directly may or may not have proven elusive in some carcinogenic tests (such as the Ames test which gives a negative for DNP, but a positive for white grape juice and a negative for some well-known carcinogens such as 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin aka dioxin) as well as not being studied much, one of its metabolites at least one in question, which is 4-amino-2-nitrophenol, has proven carcinogenic in some experimental animals trials (distinct rare tumors of the urinary bladder seen in rodents, especially males) as well as being mutagenic in the Salmonella test (unlike DNP).The other metabolite produces mentionable results (the 2-amino-4-NP has shown tumors in the kidneys in male rats). These substances pass right through the urinary bladder and kidneys (though in the urine, the predominantly resulting metabolized product appears to be 2-amino-4-nitrophenol, but that's because the other 4-amino compound is more rapidly processed and destroyed). 2,4-Diaminophenol also is a breakdown product of DNP, which is a compound that is apparently also a mutagen and thus a predicted carcinogen. Depends also where one looks. A Russian researcher finds 2,4-DNP to be a "true mutagen" in human lymphocytes whereas other metabolic poisons, 5-fluorodeoxyuridine, sodium cyanide, sodium fluoride and monoiodoacetic acid acted as "pseudomutagens" ([Phenomenon of pseudomutagenesis: experiments with modifiers of cell metabolism in human lymphocytes]. Genetika 2002 Oct;38(10):1337-44. Luchnik NV).

Also, reproductive effects are also a concern.As users may notice, the stuff does additionally make its way into bodily fluids other than sweat or especially urine, semen being one of them.Researchers testing for the testicular toxicity of DNP and 4,6-dinitro-o-cresol, and somewhat dinitrobutylphenol (aka dinoseb, 2-sec-butyl-4,6-dinitrophenol, this one is a known testicular poison) in rat germ cells found in vitro toxicological action of all three, with them then also concluding these having the potential of causing testicular damage in humans and animals (Effects of dinoseb, 4,6-dinitro-o-cresol, and 2,4-dinitrophenol on rat Sertoli-germ cell co-cultures. Reprod Toxicol 2003 Mar-Apr;17(2):247-52. Takahashi KL, Aoyama H, Kawashima K, Teramoto S).
 
drrman said:
Im assuming you have no idea what it takes to actually measure and cap this stuff do you........or you wouldn't be thinking about buying the powder and making it yourself

its not like buying anavar powder and weighing and capping it bro

actually its very easy, all you need is a scale capable of measuring 0.01g
 
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