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is accutane available anywhere?

Minitor2

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over the counter and cheap? even the new generic? are there any online sites for it?

i need to take it so bad and i have a script for it but i dont have medical insurance so i cant afford the $800 a month it will cost the doc wants me to take 120mgs a day for 5 months it iwll cost me a fortune. im not asking for a source im just trying to find out if its available anywhere over the counter or even with a script cheap that maybe i could send it to them or something via fax or email or website or something? thanks

minitor2
 
************* has it

Bro, do not take accutane unsupervised! That shit is HELL on your liver and lipid profiles, even worse than anadrol 50!
 
yeah i saw that site

i wish they had the damn 40mgs tabs caus eihave to take 120mgs a day. and that will still be pretty pricy. anyone have any other sites?

minitor2
 
Yep, I hear that.
Check your PM's at Steroidology.
Cant post sensitive materials like that in the open.
Even the Masters site is pushing it.
 
Canuck4 said:

Cant post sensitive materials like that in the open.
Even the Masters site is pushing it.

you remember what happened last time! :FRlol:
 
wow! 120 a day, that's a shitload! research my other post and you'll see my opinion, but i'm very experienced here and i think that's way too much--although it's not a subsitute for an M.D. (just realize they are not always experts either). I've been as high as 80/ day and as low as 10/eod and seen equal results. i know of very good sites which have very cheap generics, but not in the 40mg strength you are seeking. they have 10 and 20, and are very reliable, and cheap. u can pm me if u are serious. not to dog u, but u cant have a script for 120/mo for 5 mos, no doc would do that! they monitor blood and prescibe monthly according to your values. if you're legit, and need help, i'll spread what knowledge i can.
 
I agree with ClenAche.
You wont need to go that high.
80mg's per day would get the job done the same.
And cheaper :)
 
Thanks Canuck4--not that i need approval, but i appreciate your input. i've read so much b.s. on accutane.....i.e. it works but only temporary and causes severe mental illness later on....that's a load of horseshit to me( imo)----not to offend those who think they suffer the consequenses. ACC deserves its place among wonder drugs, but it must be respected. its like anything else, too much could be devestating. check out my low dose regimine--i can even e-mail the medical journal if anyone's interested. just trying to help and avoid the shitty medical care we all experience daily.
 
I would only use accutane as a last resort. Try antibiotic creams or vitamin a cream first. Also deep pore cleansers help quite a bit. Clenache, please post your journal I'd like to see it as well.
 
Bro,

How bad off are you? You should only be taking Accutane IMO if you are in late stages and have tried other things... If its a serious breakout in large areas I would start by taking 40mgs a day and see how you take to that in about 3 weeks you will really start seeing what it will do as far as drying you out lol... Use chap stick, eye drops, and nose drops at the first sign or it could lead to problems... If you are handling 40 good then try 40mgs twice a day, if 40mgs once a day is working great I would leave it there.... Its super strong stuff, so strong you have to read a book before you even get it lol and the script will have a yellow extra sticker on it or the pharmacy will not fill it... Damn you can get Morphine easier lol oh well... I see some jump onto the bandwagon over a few bumps, hell I had it all over my chest, back, stomach, and some on my face, even some on my arms... The crap was nasty lol, I didnt want to look at myself and to be honest I had been off a cycle for about 5 or 6 months when it hit me like this... It is very expensive in the pharmacy but they do have a generic now but its rare and you have to call around to see if they have it, CVS had to order it and I was very very lucky my insurance paid for the generic only... that came to like 300 bucks per box discounted price but I got it for my co pay...

Be safe bro

BBB

PS Damn Jubei good post, my opinion exactly
 
yeah guys

ive tryed all the topicals and oral antibiotics even nicomide and tetracycleen, and zithromax at long periods of time they have given me likeno joke about 20 different meds and creams and nothing works i have like boils the size of dimes on my backand in the middle of my chesti have like weird one that pop up from time to time. the doc said i will have to take it at 120mgs ed for 5 months i have the script for 30 days not 5 straight months. i told him about my gear useage and he said ok it will be difficult to spot a problem but he cant stop me from doing it. im ready to get something fuckin doen about it for good. also i work as a bodyguard for very high profile clients and movie stars so acne is very unprofessional if u ask me i just feel very uncomfortable about it. when i go on a cycle its like im 15 again. believe me when i say ihave tried everything i mean everything. i appreciate all the help from u guys.

what the opinion on taking it like 80 mgs EOD would that be effective with less potential of side effects?

minitor2
 
no i had it

before the gear, but since have started doing cycles it has gotten about 50% worse it wasent always this bad but it was bad. also it used to go away from time ot timenow it stays allmost allt he time. im fucked up thats all:(

minitor2
 
Again, I just want to voice my opinion that taking accutane unsupervised is very stupid IMO

I would consult a doc fist even if it costs more, you're not going to find cheap accutane anywhere- if you want accutane, suck it up cuz you're going to pay some $.
 
Po, i understand your caution, but he's got a script and he will be supervised. u can get it cheaper abroad, as well as a great generic that has just not been approved by the FDA (most likely for political/economic reasons rather than what they would have u believe--that being quality). with a valid script, it can be imported legally--a 3 mo. supply max. Minitor, i understand your frustration, and i'll say i think u should research the hell out of this. dont take my opionion--or for that matter--anyone else's, even your doctor, blindly. get as many different perspectives on this as possible so u can be an informed medical consumer and make up your own mind. there are a lot of good accutane discussion boards out there similar to this one where u can learn a lot (i wont post here to respect the rules-but u can pm me)--also med journals. chances are u will need a lot less--which has both health, safety, and financial benefits. good luck!
 
btw, Jubei, i'm not ignoring u. i suspect it's too long to post here, but i sent the journal to Canuck, maybe he can post it or email it--i'm not the most computer savvy. if u want a brief summary of its contents, u can pm me-or search an old post which says the same thing.
 
Heres "ClenAche's" accutane study.
Very informative IMO.


Treating Severe Inflammatory Acne: The Last Word, Albert M. Kligman, MD, Phd

Despite poplar beliefs, acne conglobata is not the only or even the most common type of severe inflammotory acne. Other forms that cause much misery include acne fulminans, gram-negative folliculitis, and persistent papulopustular acne.
My central thesis is that orthodox treatments that fall within the "official" guidlines will often be inadequate or useless. This is an area for innovative appoaches, for custom tailoring treatment to each patient, and for increased sensitivity to quality-of-life impairments, especially the psychosocial stresses that grevioulsy afflict the facially disfigured.
ACNE CONGLOBATA
Textbooks estimate that acne conglobata affects about 5 percent of acne suffurers. This is a wild overestimate! Since 100 percent of adolescent male subjects have demonstratable comedonal acne. 5 percent would amount to many mllions of patients. This load would keep dermatoloigists so busy that they would scarcely have time to take care of the common chronic dermatoses. I estimate the prevalence at well under 1 percent.
Another misunderstanding is that acne conglobata burns itsel out with time. The fact is that acne conglobata is almost life lone, lasting well into middle age and beyond, albeit in a quiescent state. Some glowing embers can almost always be found among the ashes. A biopsy specimen of the palpable scars of these burned-out cases shows a continuing chronic inflammatory process with marked distorsions of tissue and broad fiborous bands. The skin is often tender and sore; periodically a few deep-seated papules appear. Continuing treatment is therefore appropriate decades after the wildfire has seemingly burned out.
The soverign treatment for acne conglobata is, of course, oral cis-retoioic aicd (accutane). The recommended dosage is 0.05 to 0.1/kg daily, amounting roughly to 40 to 80 mg. That's the "high road" schedule.
I shall now descibe my unpublished, unknown, but effective "low road" approach and how it came about. Accutane deserves its sobriquet as a miracle drug. However, full doses are associated with a distubingly long list of advers events. These include a multitude of uncomfotable mucocutaneous signs and a variety of systematic changes that oblige the physician to monitor patients carefully. Among these changes are evlevations in serum lipid, tiglyceride, and cholestorol levels, abnormalities in hepatic enzymes, muscle ailments, ligament calcifications, osterioposic, and others.
We, and others, have found that dosages much lower than 80 mg are almost equally effective in bringing acne conglobata under control. Measurements of sebum production, using Sebutapes (described in a previous piece) are a convenient way to monitor the pharmacologic effects of Accutane. The 80 mg dose will start to lower sebum production in two weeks and can often effect a 75 percent reduction by three months. Full recorevry to the original sevum level may not occur until one year after stopping the drug.
We found that 20 mg daily would lower sebum production to almost the same level in about the same time and was just as effective therapeutically. Thus encouraged, we reduced the dosage to 10 mg daily. This reduced sebum output by at least 50 percent in three months and was just about as effective in controlling the disease as full doses, although the effect occurred more slowly. Gerd Plewig in Munich and I have found that 5 mg daily substantially depresses sebum production and is beneficial in the treatment of acne, rosacea, and some aspects of photoaging. The threshold sebolytic dose is actually 2.5 mg. This is a powerful drug. I would lower my 10 mg daily dose to 5 mg if that doseage unit was available in the United States.
There is one fly in this nice ointment: relapses occur too frequently after cessation of treatment. Becamuse of this a strategy had to be devised that would conunteract this limitation. The protocol for successful management of acne conglobata using 10 mg doses involves the following:
!)10 mg daily for four to five months, until near clearing is effected.
2)10mg on M, W, F, for one to two months.
3)If no breakthrough occurs, 10 mg on Sats, and Suns, for two to three months, after which use of the drug is stopped.

Gradual weaning is the key here but the door to relapse must be kept closed by concomitant treatment with topical tretinoin. After three months of Accutane treatment, I introduce nightly application of .05 percent tretinoin cream (Retin A), increasing to 0.1 percent as tolerance permits. RetinA is continued indefinitely after completely weaning patients off Accutane,

I belive the cite to this is: Cutis, Volume 57, January 1996. There is a bit more to this article, but i'm tired of typing and it's not too relavant anyways. I can say i've taken the "high road" and i feel the "low road is AS effective with less side effects". I dont quite agree with the Retin A regime(as it may be way too strong for people--u have to find your own skin tolerance to retin-a) in my experience, but i do agree with the idea--that being the weening aspect. (once off the the oral retin-a (accutane), which brings sebum to a controlable level, keep it under control with topical retin-a treatments--whatever strength that may be for your skin)With Retin A, its very subjective. .05 and .1 are too strong for me. But .025 Retin A i will use for the rest of my life to keep it in check. I used it right after Acc therapy. I'm very knowledgable and experienced here, so please feel free to hit me back with any responses! I love to help--as wack as that sounds!
 
You might want to try proactiv solution. Don't laugh, alot of people have gotten good results from it, especially those with AAS related acne.
 
canuck, thanks for posting it! minitor, no problem bro. i've been down that road b4, and if i can help out a bit---well, that's all the satisfaction i need.
 
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