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Ironmind oly training vids!

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some Ironmind oly training vids!

Arranda massive frontsquat and clean deadlift, plus a squat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzaHJWwUmxQ

Bulgarian training hall - Vanev 210 kg for five singles in one workout
Boevski (69 kg) back squat 250kg, and front squat Vanev (77 kg) 245 kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQLVMxtB5d8

clean and jerks plus
sevinic(85kg) front squatting 280 kg
Aranda (77kg) back squatting 290 kg for a double......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5QLojYkVeY

2001 Polish training hall - Szymon Kolecki and Georgi Asanidze (bearded guy, current 85kg olympic gold medalist in 85kg class). yes they bench and do all kinds of stuff :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU79bhwE0TQ
 
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I like how quickly they do their reps. A set of triples is out of the rack and done before most people would finish gyrating around, getting set, getting tight, etc. Clearly a lot of practice involved. And I'm guessing that as fast as the reps are, those aren't near limit weights at all. Very rapid triples for instance on the Polish back squats.
 
not really they are pretty heavy, but they're just fast and explosive guys who squat everyday :)

They do start light, but 220kg 484lb top sets are not light even for these guys and that's at the end of a workout after all their other stuff. You do notice them strain after the 2nd 3rd set of 220kg

Don't think their maxes are much higher than 600lbs, so no lower than 80%
the kind of weight you'd use for a gut busting set of 5x5
 
It's also eye-opening to compare their training "style" or speed with, say, a bodybuilder's training video. The OLY guys look bored between sets. Sitting around, chit chatting occasionally. They don't appear to be sweating much. And they don't psyche up before each set. It's just very matter of fact. Nobody slapping each other on the back, or cranking up the iPod, or working sets into the ground.

Not saying one's better than the other (although I'm partial to the OLY style), but it's just different.
 
I think that their demeaner is all about professionalism and its great great. I find it really interesting what a difference in hypertrophy there is though versus even a modestly successful BB... these guys just don't look like they SHOULD be able to lift what they do.

Do u chalk it up to rep schemes and splits or is there something more complicated there?


Protobuilder said:
It's also eye-opening to compare their training "style" or speed with, say, a bodybuilder's training video. The OLY guys look bored between sets. Sitting around, chit chatting occasionally. They don't appear to be sweating much. And they don't psyche up before each set. It's just very matter of fact. Nobody slapping each other on the back, or cranking up the iPod, or working sets into the ground.

Not saying one's better than the other (although I'm partial to the OLY style), but it's just different.
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Not that all those guys aren't explosive but that guy in the second vid Bulgarian training hall seems really quick doing those clean and presses. Those guys make my 315 front squat seem like wienie weight.

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Kabeetz said:
I find it really interesting what a difference in hypertrophy there is though versus even a modestly successful BB... these guys just don't look like they SHOULD be able to lift what they do.
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What's that guy in the Polish video benching? A triple at 405? There are guys w/ bigger chests that can't get anywhere near 3x405 on bench. I think the difference in hypertrophy is very simple: weight classes. These aren't superheavies. They don't want to get bigger. They want to stay the same size and get stronger.

I think the additional factor is their training. As great as strength is, and strength training should be a foundation for everyone, but successful bodybuilders know how to build muscle. Their methods are geared toward hypertrohpy. More subjective intensity techniques (e.g., supersets) and boatloads of volume w/ lighter weights. The good ones know how to get strong as well. But even Practical Programming mentions using sets of 12-15 for hypertrophy. The Olympians just aren't that interested in sets of 12-15 in the clean & jerk. Won't help them win any medals.
 
great videos, thanks!

I love watching O lifters squat too, we have the british no.1 at our club and i was watching him front squat 165 kgs x 5 (@BW 81) at that pace yesterday. Awesome to watch.
 
I think he benched 180kg for a double, so 396lbs. That's also after doing other oly work before hand. Plus Kolecki is 6'3" or something like that and weighed 210lbs or so, he was competing in the 94kg class, around 207lbs. 19 years old or so I think back then too.... that's pretty good bench in anyone's language, and he doesn't train specifically for it either :)

They just don't train for size, they do add musclemass eventually, but it's just a by product of lifting heavy weights enough times.
They do low reps, long rest periods between sets, and don't emphasis the eccentric too much. Strength is part muscle and part nervous system. Elite level olylifters just have better CNS which is what you need for strength and explosiveness. It's mostly a genetic thing. That's why those guys can bench a bit without doing direct tricep work and all the usual bench specialisation stuff, although the all those push presses and jerk would help no doubt...
 
also you have to remeber at this top level these guys train 6-7 days a week, sometimes 2-3 times a day. So They don't really get too hyped about their workouts, its more like a job for em :)
 
It was very cool to see an oly lift clip that included benching. A rarity nowadays, it seems. Old timers seemed to be more into benching, obviously b/c the Press was a contest event. . . .
 
Protobuilder said:
It was very cool to see an oly lift clip that included benching. A rarity nowadays, it seems. Old timers seemed to be more into benching, obviously b/c the Press was a contest event. . . .
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well most of the clips shown are olylifters doing maintenance/peaking work before or after meets.

The only clips showing a real regular training session are the Bulgarian one, and especially the Polish one. In fact the whole Polish 2001 training hall tape shows several of their regular workouts, which I made a highlight bootleg clip above. That's why you see the warmup stuff, benching and fullsquat workout with warmups etc
 
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