Iranian mother of two to be stoned to death

[Cory151]

I haven't posted much on this site but I thought i could shed some light on this topic, all political correctness aside, lets talk TRUTH. This is my second time being in the middle east. Trust me you have no idea what savagery takes place with these people the way they kill each other to create fear or simply because your of a different tribe. They chain there mentally handicapped up in basements, Id say about 80% of them are bi- sexual and many have experimented with bestiality. I wont even go into how they wipe there ass with a bare hand, and are the most dedicated liars Ive ever witnessed.

They don't really believe in sewage and most of the time there are rivers of human waste which run on either side of the busiest roads 3-5ft deep. They will lie to your face, as though they cant control themselves. If your white, or not Muslim, they would like nothing more than to cut your head off, if they could find a way (even if you've helped them in the past). There loyalties can be bought for pocket change.


But what I cant stand the most is the pure cowardice that is rampant in these people, completely repulsive, spineless, savages. They wont fight for there own mothers let alone there own country. When shit hits the fan they will run, cry, beg, and scream to god to save there worthless life. In the end they will let you down...... and they would much rather live on there knees than die standing up. Just my 2cents from my years over hear.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

It's actually against Islam to torture. Also I have no idea how she got caught cause I've been to iran and people are fucking left and right.

 

[kx250rider]

.................And there are actually people in America and in Great Britain who welcome and defend these people?????

Charles

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ Charles I get you hate middle eastern people but your ignorance I frankly have had enough.

people like me whose family moved to the US from the middle east and guys like alcatraz and others on here.. we do not support this crap. I'm getting fed up with your narrow mindedness on this subject. Iran is run by a right wing regime more in line with your political thinking, the people in Iran (specifically the young and educated are fed up) and they either flee to the US/GB or they protest against and get thrown in jail.

also as Leb some of my best friends are Muslim, Christian and yes JEWISH. we are all friends. when I visited there some young Muslim kid took me (a christian) to the ocean and handed me his entire basket of fish as a gift. its a small group of right wing nuts that use religion to hate on each other. some of the top businessman are Persian in the US. they came here with shit and became millionaires through hard work. they do not support the government in Iran. did ur German ancestors support Hitler? in fact Hitler only won 32% or so of the vote.. meaning most of Germany didn't even vote for him. but you don't see me saying "charles is a nazi" do you?

so please stop grouping everyone and being ignorant. you've made repeated posts of this type and I've biten my tongue but frankly as a leader on here I've had enough .. kthnx

someone who has autism such as yourself I would think would have a bit more compassion for others and be smart enough to figure out the difference between a regime and its people. I'm sure you've been called things in the past and I'm sure the ignorance has ticked you off, well you are doing the same here.. maybe crack open a book or do some more research bro being spouting your BS.

 

[kx250rider]

^^^^ Charles I get you hate middle eastern people but your ignorance I frankly have had enough.

I don't hate anybody... I just don't tolerate people who tolerate barbarism and uncivilized behavior and mayhem in the name of their religion. Hitler was able to brainwash a whole nation... Radical Islam IS ABLE to brainwash just as easily, and they're doing it. Let me hear a few American Muslims condemn radicalism, and I'll change my tune quicker than you can say Auschwitz.

Charles

 

[canadianhitman]

Let me hear a few American Muslims condemn radicalism, and I'll change my tune quicker than you can say Auschwitz.

Charles

I think this is one of two factors that tend to turn people against many Muslim immigrants; the overall complacency in their communities when it comes to the radicals amongst them. You don't see christians as a whole being tolerant of the KKK, as an example. The other factor that tends to sour many on Muslim immigrants is the failure of so many of them to even attempt to intigrate into the society of their new countries. While many fully embrace their new life in a new country, and quickly learn the language and embrace new customs and traditions, there are far too many who feel it is their right to live as they did in their homeland. Many are so bold as to ask for the right to live under Sharia law, expect schools and businesses to tailor their activities around Muslim holidays, ect.

People committing these two faux-pas are certainly not the entire group, possibly not even the majority...but you cannot deny that a sizeable portion of the Muslim immigrant community just doesn't 'get it', and do not make good citizens of their new countries.

But, like I said, it sure as hell isn't all of them; some make the best new Canadians of any group I've ever seen. Which is why I judge on a case-by-case basis myself. Mustn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, as the old saying goes.

 

[redshirt27se]

I don't hate anybody... I just don't tolerate people who tolerate barbarism and uncivilized behavior and mayhem in the name of their religion. Hitler was able to brainwash a whole nation... Radical Islam IS ABLE to brainwash just as easily, and they're doing it. Let me hear a few American Muslims condemn radicalism, and I'll change my tune quicker than you can say Auschwitz.

Charles

All the American Muslims I know do condemn radicalism.

 

[jackangel]

The most important question (which may not have been asked in this thread) is: How do you define Islam? This is mostly rhetorical, as each person will potentially have a different answer.

You cannot answer this question for another person. For example, you may define Islam by the content of the Qu'ran alone, or by looking at modern Muslims living in the West whom you know personally.

To me, these are simplistic and convenient approaches. Although I am no Muslim, nor will I ever be one, I do have an opinion. My opinion tells me that a book, even a holy book, is only a collection of pages.

It does not compare to the significance of how a religion is actually practiced "on the ground", by billions of people around the world. Unfortunately, I cannot know the hearts and minds of so many people, and

how they feel about these issues. Do they stone women, defend sketchy notions of honour, or uphold their idea of virtue due to some other external influence which they do NOT consider part of Islam? My feeling

is that religion and culture are not distinct. Not to those for whom religion is pivotal. It's the backbone of everything, pervading almost every facet of culture, law, society, etc. You would have to convince

me that a typical "savage" approves of such behaviour for reasons apart from Islam. If there are, for the sake of argument, many millions of people who condone this kind of violence as a part of being Muslim

(in their eyes), then the whole idea of Islam is tainted by it. Maybe not for you, your ideal, or your limited experience, but when discussing something so large and pervasive, you have to look beyond all of that.

In any case, although I do have my biases, I don't have the answers to some of the questions I've just posed. I do think they must be asked in order to arrive at any meaningful conclusion, however.

 

[kx250rider]

All the American Muslims I know do condemn radicalism.

CBS just interviewed a few Islamic US citizens about this, and several of them disclosed that although they strive to be peace-loving Americans, they received threats from their worship leaders if they were to report any suspicion of radical Muslims planning any acts of terrorism among their community. THAT is what frightens me. Any leaders of any group; Muslim or Mormon, or even a kindergarten teacher in Missoula, MT., who would promote harm to the USA by default (coercing would-be protectors into looking the other way), is a bad seed. It's called treason, and is punishable by death in the USA. And hearing that from a Left medium such as CBS (KNX Radio in Los Angeles to be specific on Thursday night), tells me it's more severe than that. If it were on Fox, maybe I'd say it was exaggerated.

Let me also say that I have several friends who are active members of Islam, and who indeed condemn terrorism and who fear the American anti-Muslim sentiment. I'd be a radical myself to say "all" of any group is one way or another... In fact that's bigotry. My concern is that by whatever cause, there is an air of radicalism taking a stronghold over the Muslim community. I see it many ways, including the "in-your-face" activists who sue school districts, businesses and municipalities over issues such as Muslim traditional garb in the workplace, etc. I have never heard of a Jewish person suing McDonald's because they must wear a McDonald's uniform while on the job, nor have I heard of a Christian suing anyone over not being allowed to wear a cross where it doesn't belong, etc. If it were the Presbyterian branch of the Girl Scouts doing something to motivate people to rise up against our society and ways & customs, I'd take a voice against their practice just as loud as I do against radical Islam in the USA.

Moderation in all things, makes harmony.

Charles