Interesting story about IGF

[Varga]

Ok, here is an interesting story about my experience with IGF-LR3

Well some diabetic tendencies run in my dad's side of the family so I've been checking my blood sugar here and there. Everytime I checked my blood sugar it was 95-100 in some cases.
So. I kept gaining weight and got heavier doing different cycles till I started doing IGF. Did IGF 2 months ago at 40mcg for 30 days. I definitely seen a difference and I knew it was working.

After that cycle I went to the doctor checked my blood sugar and it was 105 so I kind of freaked a little. So I asked for a blood sugar monitor. Since then I started a heavy cycle and I started to check my blood sugar again and to my suprise it now tests as low as 80 after 2-3 hours!!!. I never went that low no matter what cycle I was on so I think that the IGF triggered my body to pump out more insulin.
What do you guys think?

 

[maldorf]

Ok, here is an interesting story about my experience with IGF-LR3

Well some diabetic tendencies run in my dad's side of the family so I've been checking my blood sugar here and there. Everytime I checked my blood sugar it was 95-100 in some cases.
So. I kept gaining weight and got heavier doing different cycles till I started doing IGF. Did IGF 2 months ago at 40mcg for 30 days. I definitely seen a difference and I knew it was working.

After that cycle I went to the doctor checked my blood sugar and it was 105 so I kind of freaked a little. So I asked for a blood sugar monitor. Since then I started a heavy cycle and I started to check my blood sugar again and to my suprise it now tests as low as 80 after 2-3 hours!!!. I never went that low no matter what cycle I was on so I think that the IGF triggered my body to pump out more insulin.
What do you guys think?

I dont think it causes your body to pump out insulin. It mirrors some of the effects of insulin itself. Hence the name IGF. Insulin like growth factor.

 

[Varga]

Got you, it doesn;t explain why my sugar levels are now droping to 80 which tells me that that there is more insulin produced or at least Im more responsive.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Ok, here is an interesting story about my experience with IGF-LR3

Well some diabetic tendencies run in my dad's side of the family so I've been checking my blood sugar here and there. Everytime I checked my blood sugar it was 95-100 in some cases.
So. I kept gaining weight and got heavier doing different cycles till I started doing IGF. Did IGF 2 months ago at 40mcg for 30 days. I definitely seen a difference and I knew it was working.

After that cycle I went to the doctor checked my blood sugar and it was 105 so I kind of freaked a little. So I asked for a blood sugar monitor. Since then I started a heavy cycle and I started to check my blood sugar again and to my suprise it now tests as low as 80 after 2-3 hours!!!. I never went that low no matter what cycle I was on so I think that the IGF triggered my body to pump out more insulin.
What do you guys think?

So. I kept gaining weight and got heavier doing different cycles till I started doing IGF.

What kind of weight, a lot of water, fat or muscle? What happened to the weight gain you said you had up utill you did IGF?


What "difference" did you definitly see doing IGF-Lr3 and what made you think it was working?

Thanks!

 

[Varga]

So. I kept gaining weight and got heavier doing different cycles till I started doing IGF.

What kind of weight, a lot of water, fat or muscle? What happened to the weight gain you said you had up utill you did IGF?
The weight gain is still there but not a lot of water though. I always keep a tab on the water weight but im on hrt so I dont do PCT anymore per say, so keeping the weight up is not a problem but gaining is a different story


What "difference" did you definitly see doing IGF-Lr3 and what made you think it was working?
I was about 243 when I started IGF and went up 252 and got stuck at that weight if /i remember right but I was also doing primo and EQ. Started losing fat and geting hard. But the magic didn't happen till my current cycle when my weight shut up to almost 260 from 248 and I'm only half way through the cycle. Also im not a power lifter but my lifts went way up compared to my previous cycles. All the weights now seem very light to me which is scary and my arms has gotten bigger and almost all cloths are tight. YOu need to understand i've been doing this for a while so I don't really get the same gains as a newb so for me to gain this much strength and mass is great and it's definitely due to IGF. The only concern I have is that the IGF did something to my blood glucose in a good way but still I can't figure out how it did it.

Thanks!

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[goin on 4T]

IMHO, IGF stimulates the cells that are also involved in the inuslin process. So the body is less responsive to insulin. So you blood sugar is higher because your body is not responding to the insulin.
There are many reasons your blood sugar would drop...
Missing meals, alcohol, meds like beta blockers, phentermine, infections etc...
Did you check it on an hourly basis or just once and saw it was low?
If you checked it daily, did you check it at the same time?

 

[Varga]

IMHO, IGF stimulates the cells that are also involved in the inuslin process. So the body is less responsive to insulin. So you blood sugar is higher because your body is not responding to the insulin.
There are many reasons your blood sugar would drop...
Missing meals, alcohol, meds like beta blockers, phentermine, infections etc...
Did you check it on an hourly basis or just once and saw it was low?
If you checked it daily, did you check it at the same time?

No, I did not check it at the same time but lately I've ben checking it early in the morning on an empty stomac and sometimes 2-3 hours after I eat. I did not follow a protocol per say, but like you said one night I did skip a meal and it went to 80. It kind of looks to me like a random occurance the more I check it.
So for example today....I had a liquid shake of about 600cal-80g of good carbs @ 6:00PM. Checked my glucose at 8 and it was 95. Then I had another shake 50g of carbs 50protein/w some walnuts @ 8Pm, by 8:30 glucose was 125 and by 9:15 was 110-clearly on it's way down.
Do you think that by skiping a meal because of my size the body will try to use any sugar reserve hence droping my sugar level down? This may be a dumb question but does the body produce insulin even if you don;t eat carbs? I mean how else would the sugar levels drop low unless there is insulin present....

 

[goin on 4T]

My father was a diabetic and had renal kidney failure eventually he died from his diabetes problem. I learned at that time how insulin and blood sugar react. Well kind of. Anyways you need to check at the same time everyday to come up with a belief that you are becoming insulin resistant. Your sounds normal and yes skipping meals will kill your blood sugar. It makes me crazy and grumpy when my blood sugar gets too low. Your blood sugar drops from your body using it. Your blood sugar is regulated by insulin when it gets too high your body secretes insilin to reduce it. Once it is reduced and your don't replentish your BS it will just keep falling, sometimes slow but it will still drop.

 

[Varga]

My father was a diabetic and had renal kidney failure eventually he died from his diabetes problem. I learned at that time how insulin and blood sugar react. Well kind of. Anyways you need to check at the same time everyday to come up with a belief that you are becoming insulin resistant. Your sounds normal and yes skipping meals will kill your blood sugar. It makes me crazy and grumpy when my blood sugar gets too low. Your blood sugar drops from your body using it. Your blood sugar is regulated by insulin when it gets too high your body secretes insilin to reduce it. Once it is reduced and your don't replentish your BS it will just keep falling, sometimes slow but it will still drop.

Thanks bro, I appreciate you input. It does make more sense now. I definitely admit the fact that I'm over my genetic limit due to cycling...and with the extra weight my body will need more energy to maintain. And like you said, when I get hungry dude I get nasty too and just eat whatever.