Interesting info. on Israel and the Arab nations

[Gambino]

Thats not really true. Most terrorists have advanced degrees in scientific & engineering fields. But they do try to prevent women from being able to read, so I'll grant you that. The resurgance of ignorant & backwards religion there sucks, but it is probably just a fad. Pan Arabism was fashionable before Islamic Fascism and had a totally different value system, and I'm sure Islamic Fascism will be replaced sooner or later iwth another cultural attempt to salvage their region.

seems like the hamas upper-leadership is highly educated with western-phds and such.
the pan-arabic dream was lost forever with nasser

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Actually I was just curious to see if it's a longer list or not, because they seem to be good scientists and engineers.

My bad, sorry. True though, Germany does produce a lot of high caliber scientists/engineers. I'd like to see their Nobel list as well.

 

[Gambino]

My bad, sorry. True though, Germany does produce a lot of high caliber scientists/engineers. I'd like to see their Nobel list as well.

most industrial tech innovations seem to be of german orgins
rudolf diesel for example

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

most industrial tech innovations seem to be of german orgins
rudolf diesel for example

Lemme guess...creator of diesel engines?

 

[Gambino]

Lemme guess...creator of diesel engines?

yes'sir, long before henry ford
but of course ford gets all the fame and glory here stateside
interesting fact, the diesel engine was first designed to run off of peanut oil
but at the time gas was cheaper than peanut juice so he swithed his fuel source

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

yes'sir, long before henry ford
but of course ford gets all the fame and glory here stateside
interesting fact, the diesel engine was first designed to run off of peanut oil
but at the time gas was cheaper than peanut juice so he swithed his fuel source

I remember reading about that somewhere. Germany also takes credit for the first automobile. Props to Karl Benz.

I wonder why they still teach that misconception in school about Henry Ford inventing the automobile. Maybe it's changed now. He was more of a businessman than an inventor. He owned a lot of land up near where you're at now. I visited his summer home outside of Pequaming before it was turned into a tourist trap. I was just a kid and it kinda gave me goosebumps. It was pretty much untouched.

 

[Gambino]

I remember reading about that somewhere. Germany also takes credit for the first automobile. Props to Karl Benz.

I wonder why they still teach that misconception in school about Henry Ford inventing the automobile. Maybe it's changed now. He was more of a businessman than an inventor. He owned a lot of land up near where you're at now. I visited his summer home outside of Pequaming before it was turned into a tourist trap. I was just a kid and it kinda gave me goosebumps. It was pretty much untouched.

if i remeber correctly, i was taught that ford invented the assembly line and mass production of cars, not necesarily the auto itself.
a wealthy old timer i was buliding a cabin for had a music box given to him by henry ford on his 7th bday, pretty fuggin neat

 

[Mr. dB]

yes'sir, long before henry ford
but of course ford gets all the fame and glory here stateside
interesting fact, the diesel engine was first designed to run off of peanut oil
but at the time gas was cheaper than peanut juice so he swithed his fuel source

No one credits Ford with creating the internal combustion engine. The 4-cycle engine was invented by another German, Nicolaus Otto.

Diesels don't run on "gas".

Oh, and don't forget Felix Wankel.

BTW, "Wankel" translated into Russian is "Cherkov".

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

if i remeber correctly, i was taught that ford invented the assembly line and mass production of cars, not necesarily the auto itself.
a wealthy old timer i was buliding a cabin for had a music box given to him by henry ford on his 7th bday, pretty fuggin neat

Yeah he basically created what we now call the "modern assembly line." He innovated and basically revolutionized the auto industry, moreso than the automobile. Although the Model T was probably the first universally successful car, of which set the tone for all others following it.

And that's cool about the gift you saw. Stuff like that is amazing when you think of it. I remember going to the Museum in Detroit and seeing the chair that Lincoln sat in when he was shot. A bomb could've went off next to me and I wouldn't have noticed I was so mesmerized.

 

[Lao Tzu]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060909/ap_on_re_us/us_iran_khatami

Khatami blasts wave of 'Islamophobia'

By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer
Sat Sep 9, 12:00 AM ET

ARLINGTON, Va. - Iran's former president decried a wave of "Islamophobia" that he said is being spread in the United States by fear and hatred of Islam in response to terror perpetrated by Muslims.

"In the crime of 9/11, two crimes were committed," Mohammad Khatami said. "One was killing innocent people. The second crime was masking this crime in the name of Islam."

Under smothering security, with dozens of uniformed police and plainclothes American security personnel provided by the State Department, Khatami spoke Friday night at an event sponsored by the Council on American-Islamic Relations called "The Dialogue of Civilizations: Five Years After 9/11."

Khatami is visiting the United States for two weeks, coming to this Washington suburb after two days in the nation's capital. Unlike at an appearance Thursday night in the Washington National Cathedral, no protesters were evident outside the hotel where he spoke. Multiple marked and unmarked security vehicles were outside, and a segment of Jefferson Davis Highway, a main Arlington artery, was shut down while he was there. At least one helicopter swooped repeatedly over the area.

Khatami, the most senior Iranian to visit Washington in a quarter-century, spoke in front of American and Iranian flags, draped in each other's folds.

The talk broke no new ground for Khatami, considered a reformist during his two terms as president that ended last year. He was among the first foreign leaders to condemn the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. His visit to the United States drew criticism from some politicians and others because of the bitter contention now under way between Iran and the United States over actions of his successor, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad

He told his audience through an interpreter that in conditions that have followed the Sept. 11 attacks, American Muslims should show their countrymen by example that they, not terrorists, represent Islam.

"Demonstrate to others that whatever is said about Islam in the media is not correct" and combat the "wave of Islamophobia and hatred of Islam that we unfortunately are experiencing today," he said.

He laid out three goals for Muslims: "Your responsibility and our responsibility is to be first a good citizen in whatever country you live; to try for yourself and your children to move up the ladder of social achievement and education; and third is to fight the vague Islamophobia that has been created by those who don't have the best interests of Islam at heart."

He said "killers who go among others and kill others in acts of terror, if they identify themselves with Islam, they are lying. You Muslims who live in the United States should be representatives of enlightenment and don't allow those who create this Islamophobia" to speak for the religion.