INteresting INfo I came across about Test Esters

[black sheep]

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Here is the ester weights:
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Acetate = C2 H2 O = 42.1mg = 87.26mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Enanthate = C7 H12 O = 112.2mg = 71.99mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
Decanoate = C10 H18 O = 154.3mg = 65.15mg

So basically this means
1g of test everyweek is really 1 gram of test
1g of pro everyweek is really = 830mgs test
1g of enanthate every week is = 710 mgs test
1g of cypionate every week is = 690 mgs of test

So there is the proof. Suspension is the strongest test with cypionate being the shittiest test.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Which is why the bros who run 150mg of Susp/day turn into Monsters in a matter of weeks, LOL.

The best cutting drug out there if you can deal with it

 

[mrplunkey]

Interesting point...

So let's back into something. A healthy male makes what? 75-100 mg's test/week? That means that 250 mg's test cyp per week = 250 mg's * (0.690) = 172.5 mg's of actual test/week. But... the half-life of cypionate is 12 days, so:

No gear = 100 mg's/week natty test / 7 days = 14.28 g's "consumed" per day
@ 250 mg's cyp/week = (172.5 mg's) * 50% / 12 days = 7.19 "consumed" per day

But that's assuming you are doing one shot and stopping. Weekly shots would continue to build (i.e. day 8 = leftover from day 1 shot + fresh 172.5 mg's of test).

We ought to use a half-life calculator to figure-out when 250 mg's of cypionate administered weekly would surpass your body's own production. My guess would be 3-4 weeks, which is about when test cypionate "kicks in".

Is anyone successfully doing this kind of math, or is this just too primitive of a way to look at dosing and kick-in times?

 

[mrplunkey]

Which is why the bros who run 150mg of Susp/day turn into Monsters in a matter of weeks, LOL.

The best cutting drug out there if you can deal with it

Suspension is more "efficient" gram-for-gram and kicks-in faster, but does that mean it's the "best"?

I wonder what something like cypionate (increased slightly to account for it's less efficient delivery vehicle) would look like if it were injected 2x a week. I remember there is some modeling program out there that plays-out half-lives. Does anyone have the link?

Isn't the name of the game dead-flat (but elevated) hormone levels over the entire cycle?

 

[Makavelli]

Suspension is more "efficient" gram-for-gram and kicks-in faster, but does that mean it's the "best"?

I wonder what something like cypionate (increased slightly to account for it's less efficient delivery vehicle) would look like if it were injected 2x a week. I remember there is some modeling program out there that plays-out half-lives. Does anyone have the link?

Isn't the name of the game dead-flat (but elevated) hormone levels over the entire cycle?

Damn Black! Was it research day? Good posts today brotha. Anyway, yes the goal is elevated but even blood levels. If your levels are constantly up and down you'll be more prone to sides and won't get the gains that a steady level will deliver w/o the sides.