intentionally lowering thyroid levels for blood test

[Sigmund Roid]

I am borderline hypothyroid and I wonder what to do to get me over the edge. Usually they test for TSH + T4. I can take some T3, T4, clen, DNP etc. but the problem is then that both TSH and T3/T4 will be low, which denotes secondary hypothyroidism, which is quite rare.

I would like to make the blood test show that TSH is high and T3/T4 are low. How can I do that?

 

[Jenetic]

Inhibit the synthesis of thyroid hormones. Methimazole (Tapazole). Reduce the feedback from T4/T3 thus increasing TSH.

Jenetic

 

[Sigmund Roid]

Thanks Genetic, I was looking for something like that. However, I was looking more into something that is available for me. I can get iodide salts, but I read it can both cause hyper- and hypothyroidism. I feel I need a bit of extra T3/T4 because I feel so tired and slow like a turtle. Steroids also cause hypothyroidism, but I am not sure if it is secondary or primary?

As a medical wizard, do you think I can get away with secondary hypothyroidism without pituitary scans etc.?

 

[Jenetic]

Thanks Genetic, I was looking for something like that. However, I was looking more into something that is available for me. I can get iodide salts, but I read it can both cause hyper- and hypothyroidism. I feel I need a bit of extra T3/T4 because I feel so tired and slow like a turtle. Steroids also cause hypothyroidism, but I am not sure if it is secondary or primary?

As a medical wizard, do you think I can get away with secondary hypothyroidism without pituitary scans etc.?

I'm not sure how much good the iodide salts would do. You're goals would be to inhibit the trapping of iodine, the uptake of iodine and/or the organification of iodine.

Your TSH levels would need to be borderline to below normal ranges in order for them to consider secondary hypothyroidism. Even then, they would more than likely begin with T4 therapy.

How sure are you about all of this?

Have you tried the Barnes technique of basal metabolism in order to get a better idea?

Jenetic

 

[Jenetic]

Another option would be ketosis. Although, I'm not sure to what degree T4/T3 conversion would be impaired or the appropriate time frame in order to notice a significant change.

Jenetic

 

[Sigmund Roid]

I found this on:
http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/showthread.php?p=34954#post34954
written by Fonz and Macro

"Post-Steroid Cycle Use of DNP

One of the primary causes of muscle breakdown after a steroid cycle is suppressed TSH. Anabolic steroids suppress TSH, which in turn lowers T3 and T4 production by the thyroid gland. The reduction in TSH is one reason that anabolic steroids are such excellent muscle builders.

Soon after the completion of a steroid cycle, TSH up-regulates, which in turn super-stimulates the thyroid. This excess stimulation causes the thyroid to produce above normal levels of T3 and T4. This increase in thyroid hormones is highly catabolic and is the main reason why people lose muscle post-cycle.

Athletes have learned that they need to restrict T3 production post cycle to prevent muscle loss. A novel approach to achieving this goal is the use of DNP. About 80% of the body’s endogenous T3 is produced from the metabolically inactive T4 to the metabolically active T3. The de-iodinase enzyme is responsible for this conversion. It literally cleaves off an iodine molecule.
By ingesting 200mg DNP/day, the athlete can correct the over stimulated Thyroid, returning T3 levels back to normal. DNP directly blocks the production of T3 from T4 via the de-iodinase enzyme.

As a bonus, the reduction in your ATP stores because of the DNP is counter acted by an increase in the oxidation of triglycerides as an energy source. The benefit is the elimination of any potential fat-gain from the low post-cycle testosterone levels. And as DNP is non-hormonal, it has no effect on HPTA recovery.

After cessation of DNP use post-cycle, the athlete will reap the benefits of the "Anabolic Rebound Effect" which further lends credence to the use of DNP as a post-cycle ancillary for the elimination of any post-cycle muscular losses."

I suppose I will take this route, so using some gear and DNP and have a blood test.