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The Red Dragon
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Yes and Yes
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Baoh
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Yes. It is simply so. Yes.
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The Shadow
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I'm fairly smart...as far as others agreeing with me - I really dont care b/c there are very few things in life arguing over
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The Shadow
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plornive said:
High IQ
Im pretty adept in whatever situation I am put in(I think that goes back to theatre training)
I seem to have the capacit to read a situation immediately and know what , what-not to say in a situation...
...except around girls.....lol
plornive
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Sometimes it seems that when speaking to someone I consider less "intelligent" than me, I am on an entirely different level from them. I think it is more a difference in attitude and values than anything else. Some people just don't care about certain issues. Some people care about lifting, others about their friends, others about philosophy. Education changes peoples' attitudes and values.
I think real mental ability is difficult to quantify. It is better to describe it qualitatively than quantitatively.
I think real mental ability is difficult to quantify. It is better to describe it qualitatively than quantitatively.
plornive said:
I know what you mean. I have a high I.Q. and sometimes feel like I can't relate to certain people because they don't think on the same level. However, I do not have a lot of general knowledge, because I live inside my head and tend to have my head up my ass much of the time.
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DcupSheepNipples
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plornive said:
Are you dealing with carbon based natural life forms intelligence or artificial intelligence?
plornive
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But I think seemingly intelligent people often have low IQs. If I followed my youthfully learned perceptions, I might believe most poor people have low IQs, or low undertilize their intelligence. However, I see that many people just don't care to discuss my interests, or don't care. People I consider unintelligent may be intelligent in a way I don't even know about. Our minds absorb what we are interested in and/or involved in.biteme said:
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Yes, I think they have a new intelligence test called a Social I.Q. Kind of like street smarts. I've known a lot of people who were very adept socially, but not very intelligent otherwise. But because of their social skills, they often land good jobs. I'm still working on my social skills. They are still subpar. I'm just not a good bullshitter. I'm getting lots of practice here.
plornive said:
Yes, I think they have a new intelligence test called a Social I.Q. Kind of like street smarts. I've known a lot of people who were very adept socially, but not very intelligent otherwise. But because of their social skills, they often land good jobs. I'm still working on my social skills. They are still subpar. I'm just not a good bullshitter. I'm getting lots of practice here.
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DcupSheepNipples
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I believe Humans with high intellegance make decisions based upon experience, knowledge and intuition in the most efficient manner! AI tries to mimmec this abilty as effective as they can! When they surpas the Human Beings with this ability, the end result will be human extinction! I'm still working on silicon and nitrogen based life forms! I have not figured out their means of probable intellegance as of yet!
plornive said:
I believe Humans with high intellegance make decisions based upon experience, knowledge and intuition in the most efficient manner! AI tries to mimmec this abilty as effective as they can! When they surpas the Human Beings with this ability, the end result will be human extinction! I'm still working on silicon and nitrogen based life forms! I have not figured out their means of probable intellegance as of yet!
Big Johnson
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My IQ scores are high, but anyone who knows me will tell you I'm stupid as fuck sometimes. There are many types of intelligence; musical, mathematical, social, artistic, athletic, etc. I actually score very highly on the sexual intelligence test (j/k) 
Seriously, we all are really good at something. I hope everyone realizes and values their talents.
Seriously, we all are really good at something. I hope everyone realizes and values their talents.
plornive
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Neural networks are a lame attempt at emulating the human brain. To date, not much use has come of them. In fact, computers using symbolic logic can perform the same computations that neural networks perform, albeit less efficiently.
If intelligence can be defined purely physically, we should be able to emulate a human brain with a processor and memory.
Symbolic logic should be able to emulate any known biological process directly related to human intelligence. The problem is that neither the human brain nor consciousness is well understood. It may be impossible to quantify properties of consciousness for all I know.DcupSheepNipples said:
Neural networks are a lame attempt at emulating the human brain. To date, not much use has come of them. In fact, computers using symbolic logic can perform the same computations that neural networks perform, albeit less efficiently.
If intelligence can be defined purely physically, we should be able to emulate a human brain with a processor and memory.
Big Johnson
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Hey, Richard Simmons found a use for his special combination of talents. He's probably quite happy with where he's at in life.
What are some of your "useless" talents?
What are some of your "useless" talents?
plornive
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Lifting weightsBig Johnson said:
Just kidding --- that is very useful for me. Some people would consider it a waste of time, though.Now think about the criminal mind. Some people are driven to rebel against the system in a variety of ways. These people are a product of society. Society creates classes of people performing different functions in society. Probably nothing is "useless" if you think of it that way.
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DcupSheepNipples
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It will take a "Hybrid" to get through the AI wall! After the "Hybrid" is studied effectivly, AI will become effective and true!
plornive said:
It will take a "Hybrid" to get through the AI wall! After the "Hybrid" is studied effectivly, AI will become effective and true!
plornive
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Before it gets that far, I can see bio-electrical implants being popular --- small electrodes monitoring brain activity in language processing areas of the brain for input and neuro imaging for output. With training, a guy could send SMS to his wife while having sex with his mistress. That would affect how people think.
I agree with you. That seems most practical.DcupSheepNipples said:
Before it gets that far, I can see bio-electrical implants being popular --- small electrodes monitoring brain activity in language processing areas of the brain for input and neuro imaging for output. With training, a guy could send SMS to his wife while having sex with his mistress. That would affect how people think.
Big Johnson
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I consider useful that which is beneficial to one's own survival and the survival of their offspring. Different talents or combinations of talents can be used for these ends even if the person in question is very severely underdeveloped in most of what we consider human abilities.
For example, when Conan is enslaved and forced to year after year turn the mill with other slaves, he does not develope social, mathematical, musical, artistic, mechanical, or many other "important" skills. But, his athletic and intuitive talents eventually lead him to greatness, because their over development allows him to get by without knowing how to find indefinate integrals or play Mozart on his bow string.
Now we begin to understand why Big Johnson's friends think he's stupid
For example, when Conan is enslaved and forced to year after year turn the mill with other slaves, he does not develope social, mathematical, musical, artistic, mechanical, or many other "important" skills. But, his athletic and intuitive talents eventually lead him to greatness, because their over development allows him to get by without knowing how to find indefinate integrals or play Mozart on his bow string.
Now we begin to understand why Big Johnson's friends think he's stupid
Big Johnson
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Alright, you got me...
Explain why philosophical insight and athletic skill should both be present in an individual, again?
Your quick wit seems to have outstepped me.
Explain why philosophical insight and athletic skill should both be present in an individual, again?
Your quick wit seems to have outstepped me.
plornive
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I think I was agreeing with you. I was commenting on how people will usually not say someone is "too smart", but will often say someone is "too athletic" or "all brawn no brains". Logical reasoning is considered more important that athetic skill by most of society. I think this idea is a product of social conditioning and, less directly, modern technology.Big Johnson said:
plornive
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In India and Pakistan, there are very well defined socio-economic classes of people. People of high class will not associate with lower class people. Lower class people supposedly have inferior ideas.
This actually makes good sense to me, in a relative way. Lower class people generally are not aware of the opportunities higher class people are aware of (especially in India and Pakistan), so their ideas are less informed ("inferior"). In this context, lower class people are less intelligent. However, their role in society is vital!
Similarly, criminals serve many purposes in society. They are like social hackers, keeping the currencies and order of society secure. All of their ideas are from the context of rebellion.
This actually makes good sense to me, in a relative way. Lower class people generally are not aware of the opportunities higher class people are aware of (especially in India and Pakistan), so their ideas are less informed ("inferior"). In this context, lower class people are less intelligent. However, their role in society is vital!
Similarly, criminals serve many purposes in society. They are like social hackers, keeping the currencies and order of society secure. All of their ideas are from the context of rebellion.
big_bad_buff
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plornive said:
shit right i gost Intelligences
Big Johnson
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Dude, dumb it down a bit when you agree with me. I was about to throw a dumbell at you and give you a wedgie 
These days, in our capitalist society, SOCIAL intelligence is the most beneficial skill we can develope, I believe.
I have friends who come to me for advice on how to set up outlook express that are paid 60K a year as the tech guru in their office.
Its all about how you talk (vocab, speed, volume, etc.), eye contact, posture, etc.
Its bullshit, but that's how it works these days.
Gone are the days of the hero scientist who saves the planet from giant houseflies. Science guys are dweebs..hu huh uh uh uhu hu.
Gone are the days of the quiet thinker, finding the freedom of thought and imagination to be a constant and valuable companion. After all, those types always want you to turn down the TV or stereo. They even sit quietly alone, like child molesters or terrorists.
Gone are the days of morality and doing the right thing. Why not fuck your neighbor's wife and 19 year old daughter? If he could fuck your wife and daughter, he would, and then everyone would be laughing at you because you were to lame to jump on the chance when you had it. Steal what you can because others will be trying to steal from you. Do it to them before they do it to you.
Gone are the days where I didn't over-dramatize a subject and inject enough dry humor into it to make most people immediately find something else to focus on, even if it is their neighbor's bikini-clad daughter swimming with her late-teenish friends in the backyard. Oh my, did she lose her top???
These days, in our capitalist society, SOCIAL intelligence is the most beneficial skill we can develope, I believe.
I have friends who come to me for advice on how to set up outlook express that are paid 60K a year as the tech guru in their office.
Its all about how you talk (vocab, speed, volume, etc.), eye contact, posture, etc.
Its bullshit, but that's how it works these days.
Gone are the days of the hero scientist who saves the planet from giant houseflies. Science guys are dweebs..hu huh uh uh uhu hu.
Gone are the days of the quiet thinker, finding the freedom of thought and imagination to be a constant and valuable companion. After all, those types always want you to turn down the TV or stereo. They even sit quietly alone, like child molesters or terrorists.
Gone are the days of morality and doing the right thing. Why not fuck your neighbor's wife and 19 year old daughter? If he could fuck your wife and daughter, he would, and then everyone would be laughing at you because you were to lame to jump on the chance when you had it. Steal what you can because others will be trying to steal from you. Do it to them before they do it to you.
Gone are the days where I didn't over-dramatize a subject and inject enough dry humor into it to make most people immediately find something else to focus on, even if it is their neighbor's bikini-clad daughter swimming with her late-teenish friends in the backyard. Oh my, did she lose her top???
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plornive said:
Awe the classes! I could go on for hours about that! With all the Asia studies in my brain! In any event the system does not deal with intellect very well in my opinion! Their caste is based on their Society rank not on intelligence! You could have a Dumb Sheeple Brahmanas, a people ksatriyas, a Mentally Challeged Sheeple vaisyas or a people sudras! It would not matter what class they are in!
This has help me to define the People! You have three classes of people!
1. People (Free intelligent thinkers!)
2. Sheeple (People who are meek, easily persuaded, and tend to follow the crowd!)
3. Mentally Challeged Sheeple (some from DNA, Head Injuries, Drugs, and those that are just plan stupid! We must care for these types of Sheeple!
