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I've tried insulin for bulking and it was tough to manage it then. I can only imagine how hard it is control your blood sugar the last few days before a show while dieting, and have slin in your system to worry about, too! Some people have no problems with it, some do. Do some extreme homework on it first, to make sure you know exactly how to use it, especially pre-contest. Its not like AS or even GH...slin can send you to the hospital within minutes! If you start to go hypo! Sometimes taking in carbs will help you "come down" and get back to normal...but sometimes not! Again, not to put down anyone's use of it, I take loads of AS myself. Just be careful with it and do tons of research. As some people can handle it no problem...while others can't seem to control it.
 
It's essential for a perfect carb up pre contest. I start my carb load on the Wed before the show and will continue right up to the show. You need to know how to use it and what effects it has on you. Granted on a proper carb load you're taking in a shit load of carbs. Most people don't realize the amount of carbs necessary to truly supercompensate. That's why most competitors get on stage looking flat, small, and depleted. If you've ever been supercompensated, you'll know what I mean. You feel huge and when you train, your pumps are orgasmic... ;)

So, yes, I use slin precontest for the carb up, and have all my male BB's that I help do the same.
 
I just noticed that the original poster is a woman, so I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a national level competitor and have lots of experience on how you respond to slin. If it's your first time with it, don't use it. Women spill over easier than men.
 
Makavelli said:
It's essential for a perfect carb up pre contest. I start my carb load on the Wed before the show and will continue right up to the show. You need to know how to use it and what effects it has on you. Granted on a proper carb load you're taking in a shit load of carbs. Most people don't realize the amount of carbs necessary to truly supercompensate. That's why most competitors get on stage looking flat, small, and depleted. If you've ever been supercompensated, you'll know what I mean. You feel huge and when you train, your pumps are orgasmic... ;)

So, yes, I use slin precontest for the carb up, and have all my male BB's that I help do the same.
I have never used slin but I am a competitive bb'er. I would like to try it pre-contest, but I realize that I probably need to know how I respond to it before I just jump into it at that point. I feel like I was definitely flat at my last show. I didn't carb up very aggressively at all, I had someone helping me and he didn't have me consume much in the of carbs to load.
 
Makavelli - thanks for the advice... yes, I am a national level competitor, but I haven 't experimented with slin yet. I've heard good things about it... but also that it could be the most dangerous thing ever.... if a woman competitor came to you and asked you whether she should try slin or not, what would you tell her? Is there something else that I could do instead of it that may work just as well?
 
Try the Womans forum....jsut because we are no tthat educated about the subject when it comes to women.. Our advice is for guys....it may be greatly diferent when it comes to you.

I personally would not do slin. I used it be4 and had some side effects. As far as crashing on it.... low blood sugar level...if you are smart and follow directions you will be ok.

Once again try the womans forum...thos egirls compete and should be able to help you.

PS: Can you post up some pics for us... :)
 
Polfa: I have been in the women's forum... yes, they are helpful there too... but I also like hearing from those in this forum who know their stuff (some have trained women, or even have wives or girlfriends who do this stuff). I've learned quite a lot since I've been in this forum.

Pics, okay!... will work on it...
 
Silent method: Sorry 'bout that... wasn't ignoring you... here's my precontest prep at 1 week out...

Mon - low carb, hi water
Tues - low carb, hi water, begin diuretics
Wed - low carb, hi water, more diuretics
Thurs - low carb, cut water off at 6pm, more diuretics
Fri - normal meals till 3pm, 4 pm 4 rice cakes with pnut butter and jelly, 6pm chicken and potatoes, 9pm steak, potatoes and cheesecake, more diuretics... and an eatmore bar every 3 hours thereafter

This has worked for me over the last two years... now I'm doin' the nationals baby!!! Just trying to see if there are any more edges for me... considered slin cuz I heard good stuff about it, but also sounds quite dangerous if the dosages are wrong...
 
musclegirl28 said:
Silent method: Sorry 'bout that... wasn't ignoring you... here's my precontest prep at 1 week out...

Mon - low carb, hi water
Tues - low carb, hi water, begin diuretics
Wed - low carb, hi water, more diuretics
Thurs - low carb, cut water off at 6pm, more diuretics
Fri - normal meals till 3pm, 4 pm 4 rice cakes with pnut butter and jelly, 6pm chicken and potatoes, 9pm steak, potatoes and cheesecake, more diuretics... and an eatmore bar every 3 hours thereafter

This has worked for me over the last two years... now I'm doin' the nationals baby!!! Just trying to see if there are any more edges for me... considered slin cuz I heard good stuff about it, but also sounds quite dangerous if the dosages are wrong...

Are you doing the USA's? The reason I'm asking is because if you're far enough out and already fairly lean, you can begin experimenting with slin to see how you respond to it. I would change your carb up. BB's don't realize how much you have to eat to truly supercompensate. It's a lot. To give an example for my show I consumed 1200 grams of carbs the first 24 hours with slin, 900 the next 24, and 800 the last 24 leading up to the show. And as you can see from my pics, I was the driest guy on stage.
Most competitors start up their carb up too late or they start far enough out, but they do the exact opposite of how they should do it. They'll start with moderate carbs and increase as the days progress. This is just asking to spill over. I would say 90% of competitors are flat due to improper carb loading, 5% come in watery from improper carb loading, and maybe 3-5% hit it dead on.
 
musclegirl28 said:
Silent method: Sorry 'bout that... wasn't ignoring you... here's my precontest prep at 1 week out...

Mon - low carb, hi water
Tues - low carb, hi water, begin diuretics
Wed - low carb, hi water, more diuretics
Thurs - low carb, cut water off at 6pm, more diuretics
Fri - normal meals till 3pm, 4 pm 4 rice cakes with pnut butter and jelly, 6pm chicken and potatoes, 9pm steak, potatoes and cheesecake, more diuretics... and an eatmore bar every 3 hours thereafter

This has worked for me over the last two years... now I'm doin' the nationals baby!!! Just trying to see if there are any more edges for me... considered slin cuz I heard good stuff about it, but also sounds quite dangerous if the dosages are wrong...

I take 10iu PW with the 10/10 rule but I think that's for guys and it's not at all aggressive. I know there's guys claiming to take 30iu and what should be nowhere near enough carbs but they're the ones who're getting the great results.
Since everyone reacts so differently and you're talking about using it as low carb as you can then I'd say try a little at a time and work up. Start with 2-3iu and see how much PW carbs you need for that much slin then move it up one iu at a time. Read up on the symptoms for going hypo, make sure you're with someone who knows what you're doing and don't fuck around. As soon as you feel that light weak feeling - carb up.
Take your time inching up - no rush - it's worth it but you gotta be safe about it.
 
Makavelli said:
Are you doing the USA's? The reason I'm asking is because if you're far enough out and already fairly lean, you can begin experimenting with slin to see how you respond to it. I would change your carb up. BB's don't realize how much you have to eat to truly supercompensate. It's a lot. To give an example for my show I consumed 1200 grams of carbs the first 24 hours with slin, 900 the next 24, and 800 the last 24 leading up to the show. And as you can see from my pics, I was the driest guy on stage.
Most competitors start up their carb up too late or they start far enough out, but they do the exact opposite of how they should do it. They'll start with moderate carbs and increase as the days progress. This is just asking to spill over. I would say 90% of competitors are flat due to improper carb loading, 5% come in watery from improper carb loading, and maybe 3-5% hit it dead on.

The man knows what he's talkin bout. If you have enough time definitely start experimenting with slin. Start with 5ius and work your way up from there. Make sure you get in enough of the right carbs or else your going to have problems. Be patient and monitor yourself to ensure that you do not spill over. For women it is a lot easier to spill, yet slin will definitely help you get onstage full and hard. Good luck :)
 
Thanks for your tips guys!! Makavelli - you're my shining star... no, I won't be doing the USA's... I'm doing the Canadians (yep, I'm a canuck!)...
 
musclegirl28 said:
Thanks for your tips guys!! Makavelli - you're my shining star... no, I won't be doing the USA's... I'm doing the Canadians (yep, I'm a canuck!)...

A Canuck eh? Bet your dying w/o the NHL. I lived in Canada for a year when I was playing Junior hockey. Great time! Canadians know how to party! ;)
 
too risky, I have used it for bulking -along with carbs/protein- and sometimes it give me some hypoglycemia, even using carbs after injecting.

when you are pre-contest you will be in a diet, that means low or no carbs so you are much likely to get -an potentially fatal- hypoglycemia.
best to use thyroid/clen, and MUCH safer.

Just ONE overdose if insulin can kill you!!!
 
craigsuperbig said:
too risky, I have used it for bulking -along with carbs/protein- and sometimes it give me some hypoglycemia, even using carbs after injecting.

when you are pre-contest you will be in a diet, that means low or no carbs so you are much likely to get -an potentially fatal- hypoglycemia.
best to use thyroid/clen, and MUCH safer.

Just ONE overdose if insulin can kill you!!!

Hey bro, she wants to use it with a carb load. That's when you eat lots of carbs to fill out. There's little chance of going hypo.
 
musclegirl28 said:
Mak: hockey ain't my thing anyways!!!! ;-) Thanks for the tips again Makavelli... now with 16 weeks left, it's time to play....

I think that's considered blasphemy in Canada!LOL! You can probably get arrested for a statement like that!

Good luck... ;)
 
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