Insulin and Ketosis.

[johnny g]

I am following Dan Duchaine's Body Opus program. I need to get into Ketosis as quickly as possible. I have a bottle of humalin R. I have experience with Insulin as I used to it bulk with some what disappointing results maybe I should have added Glucophage. Anyhow, I limited my carbs to about a 100grams a day and looking to cut them out completely for the rest of the week and clearing glucose from the blood. How should I go about doing this with Humalin R?

 

[Mr.X]

Before I give you any help, do you realize that with low carbs/low blood sugar and insulin use - it is possible to go into a hypoglycemic coma? Just want to make sure you realize the risks. Yes, there is a way to use insulin semi-safe with bodyopus, but there are risks.

 

[johnny g]

Before I give you any help, do you realize that with low carbs/low blood sugar and insulin use - it is possible to go into a hypoglycemic coma? Just want to make sure you realize the risks. Yes, there is a way to use insulin semi-safe with bodyopus, but there are risks.

Definately understand risks, however before I get to that point of going into coma wouldn't I know and be able to take in more sugar.

 

[the-short-one]

Definately understand risks, however before I get to that point of going into coma wouldn't I know and be able to take in more sugar.

yes - but have something on hand and don't go to sleep after taking the shot.

 

[Makavelli]

Eat all fat for your first three meals in a day. I consider myself an expert on the CKD and I can tell you that insulin to get into ketosis is not necessary. I can get in ketosis in 12 hours. You can use slin on the load, but I wouldn't recommend it for getting into ketosis.

 

[iHulk]

holy crapola man. Why put that kinda risk into BB'ing?
Tell me you compete or something cause for that kind of risk their better be a big cash reward.

 

[johnny g]

holy crapola man. Why put that kinda risk into BB'ing?
Tell me you compete or something cause for that kind of risk their better be a big cash reward.

Getting ready for my last show. Lol. I am not getting any money for it, but like i mentioned I have used slin before so I am aware of the risks and dangers involved. I just need it to get into Ketosis.

 

[iHulk]

Getting ready for my last show. Lol. I am not getting any money for it, but like i mentioned I have used slin before so I am aware of the risks and dangers involved. I just need it to get into Ketosis.

alright bro, just don't want to see ya hurt --> As mak siad you can go into ketosis without the slin.
Insulin just scares me. A friend of mine is a Insulin dependent diabetic and also takes AASs and he's had 2 siezures in front of me and I nearly piss mysel both times. Its scarey shit. Both times I had to shove a milky way down his throat and follow it up with OJ. But good luck on the comp.

 

[Wulfgar]

Eat all fat for your first three meals in a day. I consider myself an expert on the CKD and I can tell you that insulin to get into ketosis is not necessary. I can get in ketosis in 12 hours. You can use slin on the load, but I wouldn't recommend it for getting into ketosis.

mmmm all fat meals... chomp:

 

[toxicsambo]

Eat all fat for your first three meals in a day .

Give this man a cigar! Eating all fat is the absolute fastest way to induce ketosis.
Last night I did high intensity circuts (depletion), went to sleep (fasting state), woke up and swallowed 3 tablespoons of Flaxseed Oil and took 6 Fish oil caps with water, repeated at 11am, etc. By the end of the day I should be in keto.

 

[Mr.X]

Definately understand risks, however before I get to that point of going into coma wouldn't I know and be able to take in more sugar.

First, you need a BS monitor, do you have one?

 

[Makavelli]

Give this man a cigar! Eating all fat is the absolute fastest way to induce ketosis.
Last night I did high intensity circuts (depletion), went to sleep (fasting state), woke up and swallowed 3 tablespoons of Flaxseed Oil and took 6 Fish oil caps with water, repeated at 11am, etc. By the end of the day I should be in keto.

You will definitely be in by the end of the day. I've even gone a whole day with just eating fat.

 

[steelmass]

Ya, add R-ALA and some cardio and you'll be in it fast.

 

[a creed]

You will definitely be in by the end of the day. I've even gone a whole day with just eating fat.

I was looking into this also

could i get into Ketosis fairly fast by "just" taking in Flax Oil for an entire day (after a fast) starting in the morning?

How many Fat Grams of Flax would be too much.............

Thanks in advance

 

[Makavelli]

I was looking into this also

could i get into Ketosis fairly fast by "just" taking in Flax Oil for an entire day (after a fast) starting in the morning?

How many Fat Grams of Flax would be too much.............

Thanks in advance

That's what I use when I do all fat. The amount of flax depends on the amount of cals. I would normally take in 3-4 T.

 

[Big_Joe]

Definately understand risks, however before I get to that point of going into coma wouldn't I know and be able to take in more sugar.

You are making an assumption that could kill you. The assumption is that when blood sugar falls that you will have cognitive ability to tell that it is happening. The problem is your brain needs sugar for it's cognitive ability. No sugar is stored in the brain. All the sugar the brain uses comes from the blood. If blood sugar falls fast you will not notice anything because your brain has stopped thinking and then you are dead! If you don't believe me do some research on the physiology of the brain and notice that it does not store sugar. That should be enough to confirmm that you will be in deadly trouble if blood sugar falls quickly and it just might if your carbs are cut way back.

 

[Makavelli]

You are making an assumption that could kill you. The assumption is that when blood sugar falls that you will have cognitive ability to tell that it is happening. The problem is your brain needs sugar for it's cognitive ability. No sugar is stored in the brain. All the sugar the brain uses comes from the blood. If blood sugar falls fast you will not notice anything because your brain has stopped thinking and then you are dead! If you don't believe me do some research on the physiology of the brain and notice that it does not store sugar. That should be enough to confirmm that you will be in deadly trouble if blood sugar falls quickly and it just might if your carbs are cut way back.

I agree. That's why I don't recommend doing it. I know how it can be done, but I don't tell anyone. It's just too risky.

 

[abomb]

No shit. Im not a slin hater by any means. It just doesn't make sense to use it when try to get Keto. Slin is a like pet cobra. Try to pet him and that fucker will bite you eventually.

 

[gymratforlife]

No shit. Im not a slin hater by any means. It just doesn't make sense to use it when try to get Keto. Slin is a like pet cobra. Try to pet him and that fucker will bite you eventually.

Excellent terminology K to you.

 

[swordfish151]

Trust Mak on this one...doing 3-4T of flax for your first 3-4 meals will get you into ketosis..Im on bodyopus as well and that option works well...I have never thought of doing just one day of all fat...I'd probably kill someone being so damn hungry...lol....

 

[Makavelli]

Trust Mak on this one...doing 3-4T of flax for your first 3-4 meals will get you into ketosis..Im on bodyopus as well and that option works well...I have never thought of doing just one day of all fat...I'd probably kill someone being so damn hungry...lol....

As long as you are getting into ketosis quickly you don't have to do all fat for a day. It's just a trick I use for the first day after a carb up when a person is having problems getting into ketosis quickly.

You wouldn't be hungry bro. You'll be sick to your stomach!LOL!

 

[swordfish151]

As long as you are getting into ketosis quickly you don't have to do all fat for a day. It's just a trick I use for the first day after a carb up when a person is having problems getting into ketosis quickly.

You wouldn't be hungry bro. You'll be sick to your stomach!LOL!

Actually your correct on that...the first 3-4 meals on monday with just flax does make my stomach feel funny...and the flax burps...lets not go there..

 

[21gun]

Very risky. Getting into ketosis is one thing...digging yourself out of a 6 foot hole is another.

 

[a creed]

Actually your correct on that...the first 3-4 meals on monday with just flax does make my stomach feel funny...and the flax burps...lets not go there..

I'll take Flax Burps over Fish Oil Burps ANYDAY

 

[johnny g]

First, you need a BS monitor, do you have one?

I will pick one up today.