Insulin and Gear

[jeff1971]

If not taking growth, is there any benefit to taking insulin while on gear?

 

[abomb]

If not taking growth, is there any benefit to taking insulin while on gear?

Here you go young jedi. May the force be with you.

Insulin

 

[BigCracker]

Good job-just like handing a child a loaded gun.

 

[acneman]

Here you go young jedi. May the force be with you.

Insulin

yes to the above
read all of it before even considering to use it as without complete knowledge of this it can be very dangerous

Good job-just like handing a child a loaded gun.

if he reads all of it there is some important safety info in there
i personaly feel that it is long term safer than a lot of drugs used by people on this board. like long term or high dosages of oral AAS, or igf 1, and HGH.
the fact is that insulin is used by millions of people every day with a very low mortality rate
probably lower than tylenol

however the short answer is
it combats cortisol
it reduces shbg
so it reduces muscle wasting and increses free blood levels of tes and...
a quote from one of the articles on that page

Why do I want to use insulin?

Insulin has been called "Anabolicus Maximus" by some gurus of the bodybuilding world. Insulin can give you greater gains than you have ever had using anabolic's alone. Insulin, in combination with androgens and resistance exercise, may trigger maturation of satellite muscle cells (small, more or less useless cells that are held in reserve, which do not contribute to muscular strength but are used primarily in repair of existing mature muscle cells) into mature muscle cells that do contribute to muscular size and strength. How freakin cool is that. Hyperinsulinemia has been shown to stimulate protein synthesis in isolated limb infusion experiments , these anabolic properties seem to be the result of insulin binding to IGF-1 receptors.

 

[abomb]

Good job-just like handing a child a loaded gun.

Better that he read the article then to try it based on hear say. I understand where your coming from though.

 

[jeff1971]

Better that he read the article then to try it based on hear say. I understand where your coming from though.

I've actually been using Humulin-R off and on now for several years, with great results. I weigh about 260, 5 feet 9 inches, and I take 12iu's twice a day. I started taking that amount after reading a muscle media 2000 article about 10 years ago. The reason I asked is because whenever I read about insulin, they're always talking about using it with growth. No articles about insulin and gear, wondering if I'm wasting my money.

 

[acneman]

I've actually been using Humulin-R off and on now for several years, with great results. I weigh about 260, 5 feet 9 inches, and I take 12iu's twice a day. I started taking that amount after reading a muscle media 2000 article about 10 years ago. The reason I asked is because whenever I read about insulin, they're always talking about using it with growth. No articles about insulin and gear, wondering if I'm wasting my money.

no

but qurious about your bodyfat %
most take it only post workout to reduce fat accumulation

 

[jeff1971]

no

but qurious about your bodyfat %
most take it only post workout to reduce fat accumulation

My bodyfat is about 17%. Again, I've read a lot of different things. I train at 6a.m. I take it at 5:30 and eat bowl of oatmeal with honey, protein shake, and glass of koolaid for sugar. Then I'm home by 7:30, take protein shake. Then at about 9:00 I eat another small meal with more koolaid for sugar. I take my next 12 iu's at 5:00 when I get home from work. Eat small meal at 5:30 with koolaid. Next meal 3 hours later when insulin kicks in again. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it seems to work for me. Only taking Romanian D's now.(6/3times a day) 80mg's total. Bought 7 bottles of LSP suspension to go with it, but too big of a PAIN IN THE ASS!

 

[acneman]

My bodyfat is about 17%. Again, I've read a lot of different things. I train at 6a.m. I take it at 5:30 and eat bowl of oatmeal with honey, protein shake, and glass of koolaid for sugar. Then I'm home by 7:30, take protein shake. Then at about 9:00 I eat another small meal with more koolaid for sugar. I take my next 12 iu's at 5:00 when I get home from work. Eat small meal at 5:30 with koolaid. Next meal 3 hours later when insulin kicks in again. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it seems to work for me. Only taking Romanian D's now.(6/3times a day) 80mg's total. Bought 7 bottles of LSP suspension to go with it, but too big of a PAIN IN THE ASS!

i feel that taking before workout is dangerous
however some feel that it is safe and controls cortisol during a workout
i cant condone it as it ups the chance of the only side effect im worried about.....death.
in the original post of the insulin faq there is some great back and forth by some smart people that goes beyond the faq only
the link for this is
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156144
since you are taking it twice a day i would pay close attention to Iron master's post as they deal with alternatives to the post workout only plan
i cant remember if primal x states his views or not but he advises a pre workout regimine
also if your eating at 530 when do you go to sleep as i think this is an important issue with afternoon insulin dosing

 

[jeff1971]

i feel that taking before workout is dangerous
however some feel that it is safe and controls cortisol during a workout
i cant condone it as it ups the chance of the only side effect im worried about.....death.
in the original post of the insulin faq there is some great back and forth by some smart people that goes beyond the faq only
the link for this is
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156144
since you are taking it twice a day i would pay close attention to Iron master's post as they deal with alternatives to the post workout only plan
i cant remember if primal x states his views or not but he advises a pre workout regimine
also if your eating at 530 when do you go to sleep as i think this is an important issue with afternoon insulin dosing

First, when I'm working out I keep a jug of koolaid in my gym bag. Works great for cheap carbo drink after my workout and in case I have insulin reaction. As far as taking my last dose at 5:30, from what I understand humulin R peaks twice, half hour after you take it and then again about three hours later. So I'm safe to go to bed anytime after my 9:00pm meal. But, I'm no pro, so open to any advice. Thanks!