Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I think you know what I mean. Basically your not on any set training regimen and you go by how your body feels. Say you want to do legs twice this week and one next or not at all. Keep within reason though and make sure your training each body-part semi equally or to your desired interest. How many of you guys do this?
Instinctive weight training.
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Lone Trooper
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UFC22 said:
Probably everyone from C&C and any other asshole who doesn't want to train to get anywhere.
Just ask JKurz.
LiftHeavy123
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Sweet now I can do biceps everyday! No really, I'm sure some people would do that. I don't know about this. I think ego or laziness would cloud too many workout decisions with a program like this.
Kabeetz
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I think there are some genetically gifted guys who can see a lot of gains like this... I know people who workout once every six months, in a week or two are shredded and can do BTN Push Presses, 225 for reps..and I'm amazed.
But these people on the other hand never really advance or progress well beyond the strength they accumulated playing sports in high school and/or college..and I believe that to be because sometimes they might lack a plan of progression, and no record to look back on and see where they came from, what worked, what didn't, what to try next.
It's certainly not impossible to train on the fly, but it sure makes it harder on yourself IMO.
But these people on the other hand never really advance or progress well beyond the strength they accumulated playing sports in high school and/or college..and I believe that to be because sometimes they might lack a plan of progression, and no record to look back on and see where they came from, what worked, what didn't, what to try next.
It's certainly not impossible to train on the fly, but it sure makes it harder on yourself IMO.
Not necessary, this is a serious weight-training question.
No man that is not how I intended this thread to go. Say someone is an experience weight-lifter and knows what he is doing. Not some kid who just wants to go into the gym and do arms every-other-day and makes instinctive training an excuse for his wantingness to do arms.
I also don't mean training on the fly at all either! You train how you train 30min-90min, whatever you do, but instead of a set routine you go with what you feel!
I honestly don't think a training regimen would be more beneficial than an instinctive training regimen. It makes no sense that having a routine would be more productive then doing what you feel from day to day. Say you feel great and fresh 1 week and you train 4-6 days that week and the next week only 3? Under instinctive training one can do this. I don't do this training myself but am interested in it.
al420
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You still have to have a plan. An elite level athlete may not take a spreadsheet into the gym daily, but they are making incremental progress based on a set plan.
If you mean skip squatting for a whole week I say shame on you.
I don't train 'body parts' per say, but more so lifts, so I am lost now.....
Put simply - If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
I see.... I was just saying you train legs twice a week and next week not at all per se if you feel like you hit your legs sufficient enough the previous week. I dont know if i could do this myself I love training legs!
I see. Well I'm use to a split mainly. Thats what I have always done. From 3-5 day splits all through-out my weight training years. Im just interested to see whats out there, and I know of athletes and bodybuilders training instinctively. So just thought I would ask the weight training forum about it!
Kabeetz
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How could anyone beyond a beginner train a bodypart so good that it doesnt need to be trained for two weeks?
If you're talking about soreness as a measure of "hitting" the muscle... that's like a 72 hour thing, not a 14 day thing.
I'm not anti-body part splits in anyway, but even then, you need to plan and record so that you know u're getting stronger and measuring in some way to know you're getting bigger. I don't know many big people who walk around with the look of "which exercise should I do next?" on their face.
If you're talking about soreness as a measure of "hitting" the muscle... that's like a 72 hour thing, not a 14 day thing.
I'm not anti-body part splits in anyway, but even then, you need to plan and record so that you know u're getting stronger and measuring in some way to know you're getting bigger. I don't know many big people who walk around with the look of "which exercise should I do next?" on their face.
Protobuilder
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most people's training instincts suck
Im not saying you walk around figuring out what you want to do. If you have been around the game for long enough you know what to do in a split second! So say you wake up in the AM and your like I will do legs today... So right there you know your going to squat, stiff legs, and whatever else you usually do.
Cynical Simian
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...Protobuilder said:
In the sense in which you're using 'instinctive,' no; nobody besides the people Lone Trooper mentioned wanders into the gym without a clue what they're going to do on a given day or over a long period of time.
In the sense of using the training knowledge and experience one has built to make adjustments on the fly and vary different training parameters according to one's judgment rather than a set-in-stone plan, absolutely. But the advanced lifters for whom heavy reliance on such adjustments is necessary to make progress aren't doing what you're describing, namely thinking "well, I was going to do squats today, but I think I'll do reverse pec dec supersetted with weighted push-ups instead."
SgtSlaughter
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Not I.UFC22 said:
I used to do it when i was a whopping 170lbs... got me no where.
I could do it now but without specific goals you're not going to accomplish much other than keep your conditioning up and whutnot.
SgtSlaughter
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are you saying your on the same level as the pro bodybuilder?UFC22 said:
I'm not trying to put you down in any way. The way which one trains is/should be goal specific... was that his bulking or cutting training. His conditioning and workload is probably beyond most people being that he's been at it for a few decades and also a genetic wonder (to be a pro bb).
Well gaining or loosing is diet, oh man... i'm lossing it, lol.
Did i in any way say I was on the level of a pro level bodybuilder? NO! I'm 5'8 200lbs and have been weight-training for along time. I am by no means a beginner! All I asked was a simple question and it was all contorted. I did get my answer though, no one does this type of training.
thanks
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Lone Trooper
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UFC22 said:
Wahhhh!!!
thesuaveone
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UFC22 said:
Sorry for all the hate bro. This forum appears to be filled with people who have mastered weightlifting, and will only accept volume training such as Glenn Starr's program as the proper way to lift weights. Forget anything else any bodybuilder has suggested as they no nothing, strength training or compound lifts are the only way to properly lift...at least here.
Personally, I cannot train as you have stated, I have to stay on a pretty regimented program for gains. I have found that I get my best gains on a 5 day split routine for size gains, but my best strength gains have come from volume training. Unfortunately, I have not been gifted with the ability to lift as my body tells me, but it would be nice if I was.
thesuaveone
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How about Ass Hole?
Protobuilder
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LoL
Question is, do some people do it? Sure. most people don't do it successfully. If that doesn't deter you, then give it a go. The only people that can get away with it are probably pretty experienced. If you want to give it a whirl, then go ahead. Check back in 4-6 months and give some results. What've you go to lose?
Question is, do some people do it? Sure. most people don't do it successfully. If that doesn't deter you, then give it a go. The only people that can get away with it are probably pretty experienced. If you want to give it a whirl, then go ahead. Check back in 4-6 months and give some results. What've you go to lose?
It is not like people who do this kind of training don't do compound movements! How can you possibly say that individuals who train like this don't see much progress? That is completely false. If you pound the cals, rest, and train hard you will grow, period! I remember a friend who use to train like this and suggested it to me. He grew immensely while he was training, and is a competitive bodybuilder making his way up the ranks. Does he still train like this? I couldn't tell you.
SgtSlaughter
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There's no need to get all heated we're just throwing out our opinions.
He grew immensely, congratz... he's probably got the genetics to take him far.
For the rest of us, it's idiot (almost) proof structure through strength training that provides results as long as you follow it.
Damn right you gotta pound the cals, sleep and train.
I love sleep
He grew immensely, congratz... he's probably got the genetics to take him far.
For the rest of us, it's idiot (almost) proof structure through strength training that provides results as long as you follow it.
Damn right you gotta pound the cals, sleep and train.
I love sleep
Cynical Simian
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Congratulations! You posted the 10,000th "I'll pretend to ask for your opinions but already made up my mind and will get bitchy if you disagree with me" thread in EF history! 
Lone Trooper
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Cynical Simian said:Congratulations! You posted the 10,000th "I'll pretend to ask for your opinions but already made up my mind and will get bitchy if you disagree with me" thread in EF history!
Was gonna say the same.
UFC, fuck off, you twat.
If you're doing it instinctive, then you have no structure to hold you to doing compounds. Go put some pretty boy on an instinctive routine. People will, by instinct, go for what's easy. You won't find people running to squats, deadlifts, olylifts or any of that.
So you go train "instinctively", but if you're planning on making sure you do compounds, that's not exactly instinctive, now is it, bitch?
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SgtSlaughter
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lmfao
just recently I've started truely enjoying your flavor of humor L.T.
It's refreshing... like showering with axe body wash after a night of dirty sex with a nameless hottie.
just recently I've started truely enjoying your flavor of humor L.T.
It's refreshing... like showering with axe body wash after a night of dirty sex with a nameless hottie.
Lone Trooper
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Sarge_ said:
Everyone enjoys my flavor.
YES, did you see what I did there? What, with the words and all?
That's the best kind've refreshing.
