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Injectable Winny vs. Tabs

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I see a lot of talk on this board about winny tabs, what about injectable, which is better, and is there any point to doing a 4 week cycle, or will you not see any gains in such a short time.
Thanks for the insight.
 
Tabs VS Inject

I believe the inject has a longer half life in your body. I stick with the tabs because Injectable winny burns like a bitch and often clogs the pins up. I like the tabs more, but thats just my opinion.
 
Oral vs inj. has been extensively discussed on this board for years now. Do a search. I will, however, help you out a little since you are new to the board. Method of administration will not make a significant amount of difference in terms of effects. Orals are usually more cost effective than inj., therefore making the "better" of the two. Injectables do posess a site specific growth common with short acting esters such as test suspension and proprionate. Injectables also have a slightly slower release pattern as compared to orals. Suggestions for inj. would be Zambon depots and orals would be Generitech 50mg or Zambon 2mg (if you can find/afford it).

P.S. 4 weeks is NOT enough. Aim for a min. of 6 weeks at 350mg/week!
 
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Got this off of Brock Strasser's column on T - Mag


Q: There's this huge debate raging over whether or not you can "drink" your Winny-V. I know that because stanozolol is 17-AA'ed, I can use it orally. However, how much more or less effective is oral stanozolol over injected stanozolol? I hear that you need about twice as much stanozolol orally as you would injected to see similar results. How was this figure of doubling the dose orally determined?

A: There isn't a lot of great pharmacokinetic data in humans comparing oral to parenteral (injectable) stanozolol. So that idea of "if you use X amount by injection you need twice as much orally" is anecdotal and speculative at best. The best I could find is a study comparing the two methods of administration in dogs. My comments come after the abstract:

The effect of stanozolol on 15-nitrogen retention in the dog

Can J Vet Res 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8 (ISSN: 0830-9000)

Olson ME; Morck DW; Quinn KB [Find other articles with these Authors] Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta.

The objective of the study was to determine the influence of either oral or intramuscular administration of stanozolol on nitrogen retention in dogs by using a non-invasive 15N-amino acid tracer technique. Ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days (Group 1, n = 5) or an intramuscular injection of 25 mg of stanozolol on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28 (Group 2, n = 5). A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Urine was collected by catheterization from each animal 3 times daily for 3 consecutive days. The 15N-urea enrichment in urine was determined by high-resolution mass spectrometry and the total amount of urea in the urine was determined.

Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant (P < 0.05) increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/- 8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The response to intramuscular administration was significantly greater than the response to the oral dosing regime. Stanozolol increases amino acid nitrogen retention in dogs, as has been previously observed in rats. This action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.

Okay, so the oral dose was 28mg/week and the injected dose was 25mg/week. And the injected dose was far better at increasing nitrogen retention (67.0% versus 50.3%). This makes it about 33.2% better (roughly speaking), so if I extrapolate, it means to see the same effects as 25mg of injected stanozolol per week, you'd need to take about 38mg of it orally.

This isn't quite "twice the injected dose" and is, in fact, closer to 50% (52% or so actually). So if you assume the dog model is correct, or nearly so in other mammals like humans, you'd need about 50% more stanozolol orally than you would if you injected it. So if you used 50mg of injected Winstrol every other day, it would be a safe bet to assume 37.5mg of stanozolol used orally every day would provide a similar effect.
 
fuck science. last year took 1 cc eod winny by injection and by mouth. this year 6-7 tabs tt winny everyday with no comparison tabs are better. science is great results speak for themselves. now I know it was your point but many ahve tried both my self included and i never post bullshit. thanks slopain for the advise
 
flexed1 said:
fuck science. last year took 1 cc eod winny by injection and by mouth. this year 6-7 tabs tt winny everyday with no comparison tabs are better. science is great results speak for themselves. now I know it was your point but many ahve tried both my self included and i never post bullshit. thanks slopain for the advise

I agree, I also prefer the tabs cause you can split them up and tkae them a couple times a day and I am not a big fan of taking extra shots if I don't have to...
 
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