Injectable Winny & Test cycle

[iagopb]

STATS:
Age 22
Height 175cm
Bf 14%

Been working out for 7 years but seriously in the last 3 years and had some neat results. Looking to add a few exrra pounds (of Lean mass lolz).

This will be my first cycle and yes I know that I should use TEST only but already bought Wins and think It aint this bad to stack with test.

SO guys, been doing a lot of reserch but couldn' come into conclusions so far.
The point is:


I was about to do a Winny only cycle 6 weeks 50mg ED (I know a lot of you think Win only cycle does not make any sense but thats what I was able to get from my bro)

then i thought about doind a TEST cycle (12 eeeks) and just add Winny to the last 6weeks (makes more sense having a test base doesn't? ^^ )

TEST 1-12: 500mg weekly
Win 6-12 50mg ED

As you may have noticed I do not indicated the TEST ester that Imma be using, Which is what I cant decide.

I've seen both cypionate and enanthate be used with Winny, cant figure out what is the best in terms of Lean mass gains and less bloat.
Ahh dont have any problems pinning twice ED(in case of cypionate) btw

Standard PCT (clomid for 3weeks)
And Nolva in case of gyno.

Anyone helping me to design this cycle that I'm trying to come up with?

 

[northernknight]

STATS:
Age 22
Height 175cm
Bf 14%

Been working out for 7 years but seriously in the last 3 years and had some neat results. Looking to add a few exrra pounds (of Lean mass lolz).

This will be my first cycle and yes I know that I should use TEST only but already bought Wins and think It aint this bad to stack with test.

SO guys, been doing a lot of reserch but couldn' come into conclusions so far.
The point is:


I was about to do a Winny only cycle 6 weeks 50mg ED (I know a lot of you think Win only cycle does not make any sense but thats what I was able to get from my bro)

then i thought about doind a TEST cycle (12 eeeks) and just add Winny to the last 6weeks (makes more sense having a test base doesn't? ^^ )

TEST 1-12: 500mg weekly
Win 6-12 50mg ED

As you may have noticed I do not indicated the TEST ester that Imma be using, Which is what I cant decide.

I've seen both cypionate and enanthate be used with Winny, cant figure out what is the best in terms of Lean mass gains and less bloat.
Ahh dont have any problems pinning twice ED(in case of cypionate) btw

Standard PCT (clomid for 3weeks)
And Nolva in case of gyno.

Anyone helping me to design this cycle that I'm trying to come up with?

It's a good basic cycle, and I like Winny as "taper" in back end. If you have no problem with pinning ED or EOD for the whole cycle, you could consider going with Test Prop, and shorten the cycle to 8-10 weeks. Cyp and Enth are basically same, the two esters have only minimal differences, if you use one them you need to run longer 12 week cycle.

Also, you seem a bit confused about how esters work and what they are, ester doesn't dictate your gains, and you use any kind of Test from Prop to Sustanon with Winny. Bloat is usually IMO resulting from diet rather than what ester of Test you are using, and can be controlled by adjusting it. Correct use of an AI while on cycle is also crucial. I suggest you research the subject a bit more, and while you are at it, find yourself a real PCT. Three weeks on Clomid only is a terrible idea for PCT.

Here's two layout ideas for different cycles, one shorter (which I would prefer) with Test Prop, and for second option with Test Cyp.

Test Prop 1-8 @ 50 mgs ED
Winstrol 5-8 @ 50 ED
Aromasin 1-8 @ 12.5-25 mgs EOD-ED

btw. You can injected Winny also EOD if you want to, just up the dose accordingly.

Test Cyp 1-12 @ 350 mgs wk
Winstrol 7-12 @ 50mg ED
Aromasin 1-12 @ 12.5-25 mgs EOD-ED

You will need cycle support supps, especially with Winny, even though it's injectable it's still very toxic since it's 17-AA and will be taxing to your body, especially to your liver and lipids.
Get yourself at least: N2Guard/Damage Control/Cycle Support, Aegis/TUDCA, and Hcgenerate to run while on cycle.

Your PCT needs some serious work, so search your options.

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[iagopb]

Heading from Milano (Italy) to Ko phi phi (Thai), be spending a couple of weeks there.

So... In Milano I am able to get my gear whithout risking (legally speaking) but PCTs are not that popular thus hard to find.


Be ordering N2Guard and HCGenerate on Amazon when I get back home.

Planning on getting PCTs in Thai and take em back home

Done a lot of researches ,read tons of articles so far.

It seems like standard PCT is Clomid only. "No matter what , always use Clomid"
Some use HCG during cycle , others added to Clomid in PCT

Theres so much confusing ideas out there.
Got to be careful from what sources you pick infos from.

Could you guys help me out to design something that fits my cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

you have so many misconceptions that i don't know where to begin... i will just lay you out a cycle from start to finish... i highly recommend adding gw-501516 to your cycle to fully maximize it... you are definitely going to need n2guard with winstrol as it is extremely toxic... keeping your estrogen under control will keep the bloating down which is cause by estrogen increasing.... the numbers on weeks keep being laid out wrong as well... you want to run winstrol right up until pct... here is the cycle...

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 gw 501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-14 "liquidex" 2 ML day n2bm.com
5-12 hcgenerate es n2bm.com
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week
9-14 winstrol 50 mg day
9-14 n2guard n2bm.com

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
phytoserms n2bm.com
hcgenerate n2bm.com
liquidex n2bm.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators



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