Injectable prohormone (?'s)...

[Pityocamptes]

I was wondering if anyone else has done this. I ordered a "kit" that makes prohormones injectable. The finshed product consists of 19-Nordiol and 4-AD at around 100mg/ml. Sometimes the injection site will be a little sore for a few days. Also, sometimes the site will also be a little red and then it disappears after around three days or so. What is the explanation for this? I'm using a 25g x 1 syringe. Could it be that since this is a 'foreign' element in the body it irritates it for a few days until absorption? I know what abcesses are (have had one before) and these are not abcesses. Any ideas? As a related comment I have noticed a huge difference between orals, topical, and injectables. Injectables would have to be the ultimate. Strength has gone through the roof and my wife has even noticed a difference in size. I've gained like 5 lbs in a week and I don't believe it's all fat. I try to run/cardio at least every day to try and minimize this. Eating clean and around the same calories, though it tends to make you more hungry. The only drawback that I do not like is it seems to "amp" you up all day (then you "crash" later - at least for me) and initially increases your heart beat. I took it at night a few times and I just could not sleep and had wierd dreams. Though I take it in the morning now it still gives me weird dreams and I seem to toss and turn but not as bad as before - just a little more than usual. Any comments appreciated. Thanks.

 

[slowgain]

Are injecting everyday, if so ouch. Also what does the kit consist of what oil do you use for a base? Is that a big enogh needle to get the 19 nor diol through or does some stick on the needle like homeade fina batches?

 

[Pityocamptes]

Reply:

I've been injecting everyday with 25gauge pins x 1". I picked up half a box at walmart pharmacy because I'm waiting on a backorder from one of the internet pharmacies. The order is for a box of 23gauge x 1 1/2" pins. This would probably work better as the solution takes forever to load in the 25g pins. The kit is from "A", I'm not sure what he uses in his "magic" solution. If interested you probably need to contact a MOD as I had to. As far as the injections the 25g needle takes longer to inject but it doesn't hurt as bad as a 21g pin. I'm going to try this cycle for 6-8 weeks to see what kind of results I have (If I don't run out of injection sites).

 

[notpuff]

First off dude if your gonna buy a injectable andro kit buy it from "A' .
second have you guys have good results with injecting andro ?
see i been thinking about it but some1 on the anabolic board told me he used syntraxs injectable andro years ago and it did nothing . what type of powder did you use

 

[Pityocamptes]

andro kit

I did get my kit from "A". I went with a 75% nordiol / 25% 4AD ratio. Next time around I'm going to try a 50/50 mix. Got bulk PH's from myvitanet.com. It has been like night and day compared to oral or transdermal. Taking around 75mg ED. Only sides have been more hair, slight acne, slight insomnia (off and on - not everynight), and ache in the nuts (comes and goes during the day - probably an indication I'm shutting down). In any case my appetitie has gone though the roof - I eat all day now. I have noticed that recovery time is better - no pain after working out. I've been on around 4 weeks now and have gone up around 10-15 pounds - right now I'm hovering at that weight can't seem to gain anymore no matter how much I eat, not sure why (I have been trying to match gram/body weight of protein). I could go on and on... but as far as I'm concerned it works for me and has been great. It must help in producing lean muscle or weight lose since my waist has gone down and it seems I'm getting more vascular. In fact I saw a friend last night that I haven't seen in a long time and he asked me if I had lost weight - I said no, I've gained (maybe he was being kind ? .

 

[notpuff]

are you still on it? try increasing the dose i want to do a all nordiol because it was sold as a steroid in many foreign countires for year . and then maybe androdiol with liquidex to prevent gyno , see i thought it would work all along because andro is a steroid and andro oral are not 17aa i mean if u took d-bol take away the 17aa it wouldnt work either so have you noticed you got bigger, im sure your wife must have loved it , which a kit did you get?

 

[notpuff]

i think the reason the guy didnt gain on syntraxs injectable andro is because he was a seasoned juicer and he probably did a cc of andro maybe 2 now its similar to a guy who takes 800 mg of test a week then on the next cycle he takes 200 mg u must keep uppign dose or it wont do anything

 

[notpuff]

o jes a note after cycle to get things back to normal get urself some humanovar (by gen),zma,

 

[Pityocamptes]

I'm still on - probably have a couple weeks worth left. I have got noticably bigger. In fact a friend(somewhat) of mine who is a lard @$$ asked me to hook him up with the "juice". I just looked at him and said I'm not taking any. Shirts don't fit like they used to either. I'm debating if I should come off and cylce it or just go straight through to summer and then cut for summer vacation. Probably would be better to cycle off and on since it seems Mr. Willy is having a hard time getting "waking up". As far as gyno I haven't had any problems. No itchy nipps or nothing. I got the "Sus" kit from "A".

 

[notpuff]

well if your still hovering in weight id say increase the amount of andro your taking , and humanovar from gen will get willy wide awake probubly best to cycle im gonna get my powder from kilosport a recomended there quality

 

[notpuff]

sorry for all the posts one last question why did you choose 75 nordiol 25 androdiol ?

 

[Pityocamptes]

Basically, thats all I had. I had a new bottle of 19-nordiol and a partial bottle of 4AD. I figuered since I was stacking them before - orally and topically that I might as well do the same thing for injectable. I might have gotton just as good results with 100% Nordiol. I figuere I'll experiment a little and see what works best. Next time around I'm going to try a 50/50 mix to see if that enhances anything. If not I'll probably go back to a ratio that consists of more 19-nordiol.

 

[notpuff]

Karma for you ,let me know how thigns turn out im gona do 100 percent nordiol soon i knew dan duchaine coudlnt be wrong

 

[MIKERAZ]

I'm still on - probably have a couple weeks worth left. I have got noticably bigger. In fact a friend(somewhat) of mine who is a lard @$$ asked me to hook him up with the "juice". I just looked at him and said I'm not taking any. Shirts don't fit like they used to either. I'm debating if I should come off and cylce it or just go straight through to summer and then cut for summer vacation. Probably would be better to cycle off and on since it seems Mr. Willy is having a hard time getting "waking up". As far as gyno I haven't had any problems. No itchy nipps or nothing. I got the "Sus" kit from "A".

That 10-15 pounds sound like real deca gains, Man dude if your not bsing this sounds unbelievable , and androdiol is more anabolic then nordiol , man if it works i have some great mixing ideas

 

[Pityocamptes]

I have really gained the weight. I'm sure some of it is fat. The only bad thing is towards the end of my 6 week cycle I have hit a wall. I can't seem to gain any more (was on a bulking cycle) even though I eat constantly. I took the mix orally and topically for a while but never had the munchies like I do since I started injecting it. I have been taking creatine also so some probably is water as well. But I have noticed that I'm starting to get more vascular so I'm also sure I've gained some muscle out of it. Never had gains like this before - after this cycle (after 6 weeks off) I'm going to go for it again - great stuff.

 

[notpuff]

some peopel will flame you and say the weight is from creatine but i think its from the ph

 

[MIKERAZ]

How do you know the gains arent from creatine

 

[Pityocamptes]

creatine

I have been taking creatine but it has only been within the last 5 days. The weight gains I was posting were prior to me taking creatine. I've been weighing myself everyday at the same time and I might have gained maybe a pound or two extra within the last week - probably water retention. I started taking creatine because I ws hoping to break through the "wall" that I have hit as far as gaining mass while on the bulk cycle.

 

[MIKERAZ]

Re: creatine

I have been taking creatine but it has only been within the last 5 days. The weight gains I was posting were prior to me taking creatine. I've been weighing myself everyday at the same time and I might have gained maybe a pound or two extra within the last week - probably water retention. I started taking creatine because I ws hoping to break through the "wall" that I have hit as far as gaining mass while on the bulk cycle.

Ok i stand corrected it seems like the muscle is from the nor i just called kilosports to order ,4ad,nordiol,1-test powder plan on doing the same thing you are , and experimenting a bit , just a side note injectable nordiol was sold for many years as the anabolic steroid "bolandiol " in foreign countries so it must have been good and all the andros are androgen hormones so i found it hard to believe they didnt work , so im gonna start a nordiol injection cycle gona start with 1 cc ED followed by 1 cc 2X a day the next week